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originally posted by: jmdewey60
a reply to: RustamiYour faith would not be able to bring about righteousness in you, and so the futility of it.
And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished. 1 Corinthians15
Righteousness equals life, and as Jesus had life in him, though he was killed as a criminal, it demonstrated that he was accepted as righteous by God, even if the religious leaders did not find him to be so.
That acceptance of Jesus by God is our acceptance, in that we are his brothers, making it possible for us, though we are born human in a world weighed down with sin, we can rise above it with God's power.
In the English translation It sounds like Jesus is putting this into speculative terms with "that they may" inserted, as if it is conditional, but in the Greek, it is all positive, as if it is an accomplished fact.
Acts 26:18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.
Jesus did audibly speak the instant I opened the cover of a Gideon NT but before reading anything and after a few decades now I still can't get enough, specially considering how it is relative to my firstborn
originally posted by: OptimusSubprime
a reply to: Rustami
OK, well... I'm not saying that such a thing isn't possible, because our all powerful and sovereign God can do whatever He wants, whenever He wants, and with whomever He wants. So I'm not discounting the possibility. What I am discounting is the probability, because we have a canonized and complete Bible. The Bible is the Word of God, and is the complete revelation from God to Man.
If Jesus Christ were to take it upon Himself to visit people, that would mean that the Word of God is not the complete revelation of God to Man.
yeah if He had said something that did'nt we would'nt be chatting, ha
What you claim He said to you is nothing that He hasn't said already in the Gospel, and like Jesus said to Thomas "you believe because you have seen me... blessed are those who believe on me who have not seen". Hebrews 11 says that faith is the evidence of things not seen.
what about "we who are many make up one body" in connection to eternity? a witness to the truth?
All of that to say this... I don't believe your story because if true it means that you don't need faith in Christ in order to be saved, because you have seen Him and He spoke to you, therefore you can be saved based on physical evidence and not faith.
you should hear about the angel I saw when I was @13yo who shone like lightning- makes these alot more interesting
So either you are the only person since Christ ascended to the right hand of the Father to have experienced this, OR your story isn't true. Having said that, I'm not accusing you of blatantly lying, perhaps you did experience something, but I would argue, based on logic and overwhelming Biblical evidence, that what you did experience was not the LORD Jesus Christ visiting you in person.
originally posted by: Rustami
It's a no brainer to me as one who has been personally visited by the raised Lord Jesus Himself but what's not commonly thought of is how He destroys all PTB in high places and their groupies in this relation.
Romans 10 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Hebrews7 By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death:But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood.Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.
Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Philippians2
originally posted by: borntowatch
It is one thing to call Christ your saviour and believe, it is another thing all together to let Christ be lord over your life.
To submit your whole life to Him, as is requested.
Look at the story of Israel, Gods chosen Gospel, always calling Yahweh their God, unfortunately they constantly rebelled, to the point where they were rejected. Christianity is now Gods Chosen message.
If only one thing can be learned out of the Old Testament, it should be to Christians, God is not a birthright.
We have a responsibility to live accordingly.
It sounds to me like you are saying we just need to call His name, thats wrong, thats out of context.
You can throw hundreds of texts saying that just believing that Christ is saviour is enough, I could throw hundreds back saying our actions are as important.
Simply what I am saying is that there is a balance between the two, faith and actions.
Israel got it wrong, were justly punished.
Many who believe in Jesus, call His name, do His work, serve, wont have a relationship with Him and will be cast out of His kingdom. Do you deny that
Why didnt I post the whole book, because I dont think you would read it, nor is this the place.
If you were truly interested in serving God, you would carefully consider my words, prayerfully engage the Holy Spirit and finally study to see if your understanding was correct.
That is what the bible teaches. James in his epistle of straw was very clear about the connection between faith and works, you should read it, study it, prayerfully consider it. You are welcome to ignore everything I say.
It's precisely what the Dr. ordered
originally posted by: borntowatch
Nice scripture, it explains nothing
actually makes you look shallow and blunts your argument.
Seriously, a discussion?
I dont think you fully understand the concept of ATS and relationship.
Believe what you like, just dont think your actions dont have repercussions in this world and the next.
originally posted by: BasementWarriorKryptonite
a reply to: Rustami
I actually admire people who have faith in their chosen god, I really do. I don't wish I could be one of them, but I do sometimes think I'd like the sense of solace they seem to have.
I like to find my peace in other ways and I don't need to be saved, so you and I are all good