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I want YOU to fight and die in WW3, did you start training?

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posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 08:23 AM
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a reply to: BaconNeggs2

What?!?! Ukraine and russia are like Quebec and Canada? I highly doubt that. Quebec is already apart of Canada, we are are not having a war with them, so I dont see how the two compare to each other.

It just sounds like you woke up on the wrong side of the bed today.




posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 08:26 AM
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The past has nothing to do with it, I support democracy, is that what makes me stupid? Russia has illegally invaded a foreign power, that is wrong.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 08:43 AM
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a reply to: biggilo

Dear biggilo, as you may read already thousand times Crimean peninsula is not exactly foreign to Russia



Why you deny the right of Crimean citizens to self determination ? They wanted to join Russia back in the wake of Kiev Maidan and fearing for their safety. I seen videos on the net even before Crimean elections in February 2014, when Ultra National Ukranians threatened Crimean citizens and beat their buses when they tried to stage anti maidan demonstrations in Kiev. Those Ultras also tried to infiltrate into Crimea and start terrorizing russian speaking people there. So, Crimean referendum was a direct response to Kievan new authorities policies. Sure Crimean independent state is not viable alone, they don't have enough drinking water.
What happened next is that other regions of Ukraine in borders 1991 also felt threatened and organized against Kiev.
Sure all this happened not without massive support from Russian government and most of Russian people.

As a joke, i want to see Stalin face in Yalta 1945 when Churchill is saying that Yalta is occupied by Russia lol

www.thenagain.info...
edit on 2-9-2014 by kitzik because: additional external source



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 09:12 AM
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Sorry no invites .. if wanted to put up with neighbors would have stayed back in that cesspool people call "civilization" .. prefer my solitude ..

Besides out here average temp 30c year round I dont run aircon not acclimatized to it .. solar runs my lights icebox and keeps my tab charged .. nearest shop is three days away after walk through jungle and ride on boat .. then theres the wildlife - venomous snakes .. monkeys .. tigers .. unexploded 40+ year old ordinance laying around that still claims lives and limbs every year .. oh and the nearby villagers are still armed with weapons left from the war they dont take to kindly to outsiders even the surrounding countries leave them alone ..

There are no roads .. post offices.. shopping malls .. fast food places .. starbucks .. or any of the rest of what people are used to out here ..



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 10:06 AM
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a reply to: snypwsd
Ukraine and Russia are much closer culturally than Canada and Quebec province

Just look 2 short clips of Russian and Ukranian songs from the USSR movie about WW2

youtu.be... - Russian song
youtu.be... - Ukranian song



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 10:11 AM
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a reply to: kitzik

I didn't realize WW3 had started already.

We won't get involved in the Ukraine, it's not on the agenda. Our agenda remains the Middle East. That should be obvious to anyone, as it's what we are constantly mind controlled to be aware of, and intervene in every day. They have to create a new boogeyman every few years. Al Qaeda, ISIS or ISIL or whatever they want to say today, since they can't even get that right.

Targeting these groups is how the government wants to control people. Targeting a country is not so easy, as it has fairly intelligent people behind it who are obviously elected, in most cases. Targeting these faceless groups is easy, and we can blame everything on them. From the horrible things they really do, to the things they haven't done.
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posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 10:25 AM
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I have little concern for Russia's convetional forces. Their performance of the last decade has revealed a poorly lead force who's commanders are so corrupt they keep the money they ares suppose to spend on weapons, training, and welfare of the troops and pocket it. When Russia went into Georgia people had sold the damn explosives out of the reactive armor, units numbers were fudged with invisible so did not have the manpower in reality they did on paper, Russias GPS crapped out and nobody seemed to have land navigation training so units were lost all over the place, electronic warfare and even communication was almost non existant with old or missing equipment. To make matters worrse the Russian airforce had big problems. After losing 3 aircraft on the first day the Russian army no longer recieved air support. It seems the Russian have never had to supress enemy air defense from the air and do not have the tech nor the training to do so. So air defense units had to be attacked with artillery or ground forces. To make matters worse the Russians were never able to get air superiority and Georgias airforce was able to bomb Russian forces the entire time. It is a testimate to the Russian soldier that they were able to get things done despite the compelte and total failure of their leadership. And all that was against little Georgia. After that mess Russia canned 200 senior officers and tried to reform the miitary but, once again corruption reared its ugly head and nothing happened.

Fighting to defend Russia from an invasion I am sure Russian forces would stand up and put up a good fight. These adventures into the nations around them on the other hand has revealed some poorly lead, poorly motivated forces that lack support from above. And the only thing that will lead to a war between the West and Russia is more Russian invasions of it neighbors.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 10:30 AM
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a reply to: Catacomb



Our agenda remains the Middle East.


I don't agree with this statement. USA agenda last 5 years turned to Pacific Ocean (China)
Since even USA don't have enough troops to control all the world simultaneously, they choose to destabilize all regions that will be left unattended when China becomes threat number one.

Obama (or whoever advising him) decided that USA China confrontation will happen when all other actors seriously weakened in the internal struggles. So, his step was toward destabilizing Russia. He forgot or rather never knew that Russia still the only power that can literally wipe USA off the world face. Obama wasn't raised in his formative years in Nuclear stand off, he lived in Indonesia and Hawaii both places far from potential nuclear strike. So, he decided to weaken Russia first, before inevitable confrontation with China in next decade.
As for Middle East , USA is also underestimate Islam factor. Islam is on the rise, and if left unattended for too long they will form Caliphate from Spain to Afghanistan. Such big Caliphate may become very dangerous with nuclear weapons either from Pakistan or Iran. Hopefully for USA Sunni/Shia discrepancy will not vanish and Islamic states will not unite. I'd say, too many bets from USA foreign policy. Both to kowtow Russia and hope Caliphate not becoming even more dangerous than China in the long run. But do they have a choice ? Tactically- yes, strategically - not so much.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 11:00 AM
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a reply to: Xaphan
I think that there will be scores of people going after the government if WW3 breaks out. I think it will end up with an internal war all while the WW3 goes on. While the elites who start this crap sits safely in their bunkers, the rest of us will face a certain death or suffering lifestyle. I, like millions of others, am not willing to allow the elites that luxury, should it all go down.


I will not fight for the US zio government ever. I will fight and protect my family, my neighbors, etc..


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posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 11:00 AM
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originally posted by: liejunkie01
Well the way I see it,

We don't have to worry about a thing. Obama doesn't have the balls to go any further than talk. He can talk the talk, but he can't/won't walk the walk.

Unless he can apologize us to victory.


Presidents like Reagan and the Bushes, none of this would happen. Could that be a Republican thing? Maybe not cause I don't think this would happen during the Clinton administration either. Putin knows the world does squat when it comes to aggression. He sees Israel pound the snot out of Gaza and no one lifts a finger. He knows Obama won't do anything and he knows he'll get away with a lot before any country grows a pair to do anything.

The problem here is, past Democrat or Republic presidents had Russia's respect but Putin can't stand Obama. He thinks of him as weak and that puts Obama in a defensive position from the start. I'm not sure I can articulate how important that is. It means any 'war' or escalation with Russia would be based on a power struggle introspectively within Obama and not because he already has the 'right stuff' like Clinton or Reagan. A better analogy would be "a Private vs a General" scenario. This won't end well I think



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 11:06 AM
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Now I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country.

We arent fighting in Eastern Europe. We wont be fighting Russia. Ya'll have funny ideas on what "imminent" threats we truly have. Putin's busted ass "Mother Russia" isnt one of them.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 11:37 AM
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a reply to: Advantage




We arent fighting in Eastern Europe. We wont be fighting Russia


I would be more cautious saying such things

1. According to Novorossiya news ( yes i know it is not a reliable source) they blocked in Mariupol
"5-6 Nato officers" youtu.be...
from youtube description
- The militia dislodged from the airport Lugansk militants Battalion "Aydar"
- Donetsk airport has not been fully taken militia
- Loss of punitive per night
- For two days, the army was able to advance to the New Russia Azov Sea
- In Mariupol surrounded "five or six officers of NATO"
- The total loss punishers in the Donbas from 2 May to 31 August

I wouldn't be overly surprised if some NATO troops "get lost" like Russian paratroopers



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 11:51 AM
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a reply to: kitzik

NATO can do whatever they want.. we will never be fighting in EUrope. There is no way in this reality we will ever declare war on Russia. WE are not NATO. I know in the last 20 years that it has been drilled into some heads that we are NATO. WE are the US.. NOT NATO.
If our president is stupid enough to allow NATO to command our troops yet again that is NOT us fighting in Europe.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 11:56 AM
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Sept 1969 when I was born to an Airforce Lt Col.
Nothing touches us in a conventional fight anyway.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 11:57 AM
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a reply to: BaconNeggs2

WW3? I have it on good authority that Russia is most certainly NOT a geopolitical foe of the US! Hence, since it is not a foe, it must be an ally. Thereby, we will not be going to war with our ally.

Geez, how soon we forget the great friendship our two country's leaders have.

Obama + Putin = BFF 4 Life.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 12:01 PM
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a reply to: Advantage





WE are the US.. NOT NATO.


Are you serious ? It is true that NATO operations may be don't require all Congress bureaucracy to approve military actions, but NATO forces are about 80% comprised from USA.




If our president is stupid enough to allow NATO to command our troops yet again that is NOT us fighting in Europe.


If you are stupid enough to think that current head of NATO can make decisions without Pentagon you must be living on Mars



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 12:04 PM
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originally posted by: Feltrick
a reply to: BaconNeggs2

WW3? I have it on good authority that Russia is most certainly NOT a geopolitical foe of the US! Hence, since it is not a foe, it must be an ally. Thereby, we will not be going to war with our ally.

Geez, how soon we forget the great friendship our two country's leaders have.

Obama + Putin = BFF 4 Life.





Absolutely. We are tied together . Peas and Carrots.


People forget.. all the worlds a stage.
Political theatre is one of the most interesting phenomena I have witnessed now in my older age. Once you know the actors and their relationships with eachother. Well, as much of those relationships as we are privy to anyway! LOL!
NOW we are supposed to be scared of Scary Russia and the Bears thirst for empire, the trade going to an asian union with Russia included.. blah blah. Set up like dominoes for future events. Events I hope happen after Im dead. LOL! Im really tired of being told what Im supposed to be running around screaming in fear about. I tend to choose what I want to do the chicken with its head cut off thing for all by myself.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 12:05 PM
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Yes I'm trained and ready to go, except during WW3 I'll be fighting for myself and my family.

Being in Vegas though, we know we're going to get a big nuke right on top of Nellis AFB so....I suppose it just depends on how big it is and where I am that day.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 12:05 PM
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a reply to: Expat888

Sounds GREAT unless China gets squirrley.
I will stay home and fight,die It's a quick death ...however,It's what I do.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 12:06 PM
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originally posted by: kitzik
a reply to: Advantage





WE are the US.. NOT NATO.


Are you serious ? It is true that NATO operations may be don't require all Congress bureaucracy to approve military actions, but NATO forces are about 80% comprised from USA.




If our president is stupid enough to allow NATO to command our troops yet again that is NOT us fighting in Europe.


If you are stupid enough to think that current head of NATO can make decisions without Pentagon you must be living on Mars


Youre cute, but name calling is pathetic. I prefer to talk to big folks who can discuss a matter with information and adequate rebuttals. When you grow up maybe we can talk. Please look into NATO commanding our troops in the ME pretty recently. COMMAND is the operative word.




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