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Progressive/Democrat goal: control your eating based on environmentalism

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posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 09:33 AM
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originally posted by: grandmakdw
Am I sensationalizing the starvation lunches that have been foisted upon school systems by M.O.? One that has resulted in poor children who this is their daily meal being on a starvation diet?


I believe so, yes. As has been stated, it's the school system's CHOICE to participate in the National Lunch Assistance Program. It has not been "foisted". And secondly, Michelle Obama doesn't have the power to foist anything on anyone! And if you are going to send your kids to government-funded indoctrination programs (public schools), and then expect your kids to be fed on MY dime, they can eat what the school gives them. Most kids aren't eating it because they don't like it and throw much of it away, then complain that they're hungry.

If people don't like the free lunch, they can CHOOSE send their own! Or are you FOR government helping poor people now?




posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 09:34 AM
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originally posted by: beezzer

originally posted by: TsukiLunar
a reply to: beezzer




Any questions?


Nope! Those five steps are completely understandable and in no way leave open the possibility for any reasonable objections. Quality work once again, beezer!


lolz

Reasonable objections.

Like the ones put forth concerning Obamacare?


Exactly! That's Obamacare should have 5 simple steps instead of the detailed and flexible plan that we have! It's so obvious now, thank you for enlightening me with the sweet nectar of life giving right wing talking points.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 09:37 AM
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originally posted by: TsukiLunar

originally posted by: beezzer

originally posted by: TsukiLunar
a reply to: beezzer




Any questions?


Nope! Those five steps are completely understandable and in no way leave open the possibility for any reasonable objections. Quality work once again, beezer!


lolz

Reasonable objections.

Like the ones put forth concerning Obamacare?


Exactly! That's Obamacare should have 5 simple steps instead of the detailed and flexible plan that we have! It's so obvious now, thank you for enlightening me with the sweet nectar of life giving right wing talking points.


Detailed and flexible plan.

Just another way of government mandating something.

Let me guess.

It's for our own good, right? They (government) are only doing this because they "care".

(rolling eyes emoticon here)



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 09:47 AM
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a reply to: beezzer

That's right! There are obviously nefarious purposes that the government plans on executing with this takeover. The Ultimate end game will surely be horrifying and terrifying.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 09:49 AM
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a reply to: TsukiLunar

Cute the way you are using hyperbole' to justify mandates.

I know that those like us should just shut the eff up and take it. Be good drones and let the government take care of us because they better.

*moo*



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 09:55 AM
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a reply to: beezzer




Cute the way you are using hyperbole' to justify mandates.


Thank you, the truth is, i think you're cute too. Lets build a gay igloo together.




I know that those like us should just shut the eff up and take it. Be good drones and let the government take care of us because they better.

Never would suggest such a thing. Progressives are the only ones making suggestions in this thread!



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 10:00 AM
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I do so love the rhetoric of extremists.

As with socialism and capitalism, conservatism and liberalism, any -ism versus any counter-ism, it's not an absolute choice of "one or the other."

Sadly, for those nursed on the "you're either for us or against us" mentality, there is no middle ground, there is no cooperating or compromising to get things done.

No, these days like spoiled children, we plant our ideological feet on the ground and stick our tongues out ... and that is considered political discourse.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 10:04 AM
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originally posted by: Iamthatbish
As a vegan I hope this brings the prices in my cart down.

Right now I struggle to put healthy food in my cart rather than cheap food like substances.

I understand why you want to make your own choices, lets just stop subsidizing the food that's killing us. That would eliminate added fees to the consumer.


If the government is getting involved expect prices to skyrocket as new rules, regulations, and taxes are enacted.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 10:08 AM
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a reply to: jjkenobi

Its not like the government actively invests in products to keep prices low.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 10:25 AM
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a reply to: beezzer


Cute the way you are using hyperbole' to justify mandates.

Beez - if it weren't for hyperbole - you'd have no boles at all

I think TsukiLunar was actually using sarcasm there :-) and he makes a good point

The hyperbole coming the other end of the spectrum has a certain portion of the country working itself into a paranoid frenzy. The left (or government) is coming for their guns - their money - their food... It's working too

Who was in charge of what kids got in school before? I was always suspicious of Pizza Hut - in school cafeterias. But, whatever...

So, how is this a bad thing?
Pizza Hut Now Delivering a New Whole Wheat Pizza to Meet School Lunch Nutrition Guidelines

Stores facilitating the pizza for school lunch programs now have two sets of ingredients – one for the public and one for the public schools. In order for any school lunch program to receive its federal reimbursements they must meet new nutrition guidelines that took effect for the 2012-2013 school year. Pizza Hut didn’t want to miss the huge sales opportunity that is placement in these hungry cafeterias, so they made a better pizza.

A slice of the whole wheat cheese pizza has 270 calories and 8 grams of fat. The pizza beats the school lunch guideline expectations, with 26% of the calories coming from fat – the guideline is at or less than 30%. The slice of cheese also has three grams of fiber, attributed to the 51% whole wheat crust. Pizza Hut did not share the nutrition information for the other options – sausage, pepperoni, and veggie.

To make it, they went back to the drawing board, but not square one.

“We started with a crust everyone knows and loves – our hand-tossed,” said Huber, explaining that they used the formula for their popular crust and worked back from there. They removed most of the refined grains, creating a pizza crust that is now 51% whole wheat with 18 grams of whole grains per serving. Personally, I enjoyed it more than their standard offering; it tasted denser, chewier.

The toppings were reworked, too. Students enjoying Pizza Hut’s school lunch-approved slices will have a lighter mozzarella cheese, with 50 percent less fat and 35 percent less sodium than the whole milk mozzarella used on their other pizzas.

Their original tomato-based sauce goes on a little heavier; this accounts for a 1/8-cup serving of vegetables per the new standards, but Huber assured most schools don’t factor that in to a child’s vegetable servings.

The pepperonis are leaner, with 30 percent less fat and 55 percent less sodium than traditional varieties. They use the same Italian sausage. And the veggie-only pizzas come loaded with white mushrooms, green peppers, red onion, and tomatoes.


Michelle Obama wants nutrition for kids - in school. Nutrition - not just calories

She is the Devil

:-)


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edit on 9/2/2014 by Spiramirabilis because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 10:32 AM
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a reply to: Spiramirabilis




She is the Devil



I agree. Her extreme stance on the issue is reminiscent of Nazi Germany. When Hitler did that killing thing the other day, he was probably copying her I bet.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 10:39 AM
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a reply to: Spiramirabilis

lolz

Weren't you the one who said,


I understand that there's a certain percentage of the population that doesn't like government and detests being told what to do. There might come a time when food becomes such an issue that we'll look back on these times and wish we hadn't been so childish


detests being told what to do.

Kind of like removing freedom and putting in place something other than freedom.

Yes, I detest being told;
To buy insurance, or else.
Being told what I eat, drink, smoke, is bad for me.

Most people are not idiots. If they choose to behave in a certain way then they should have the freedom to do so without nanny-government poking it's nose where it doesn't belong.

But apparently you do not detest being told what to do.

Do you detest being told what to do?



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 10:58 AM
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a reply to: beezzer

Oh, seriously? :-)


But apparently you do not detest being told what to do.

Do you detest being told what to do?


Oh no you don't... Why is it you can never answer a question directly? :-)

Please refer back to the post you're replying to - if you please

So, how - is this - a bad thing?

I know you're not big on actual facts or information

If you honor the discussion - I'll answer your question. Honestly

Let's just see how far this goes - shall we?


edit on 9/2/2014 by Spiramirabilis because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 11:11 AM
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a reply to: Spiramirabilis

Do you want less freedom or more?

Do you want more government "dictates" or less?

(rhetorical)

I think you've already answered my question.

As for yours, if you haven't figured out what my position is on the subject, then you need to read more.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 11:17 AM
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a reply to: beezzer

Just as I suspected

An appeal to emotion almost always works beeze - but it doesn't get an awful lot accomplished

You let us know when you're up for a rhetoric free discussion

(you might have appreciated my honest reply - by the way)

:-)



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 11:20 AM
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originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: beezzer

Just as I suspected

An appeal to emotion almost always works beeze - but it doesn't get an awful lot accomplished

You let us know when you're up for a rhetoric free discussion

(you might have appreciated my honest reply - by the way)

:-)


You're cranky because I pointed out what progressives like yourself actually think.

You want to be told what to do.

Personally, I don't.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 11:27 AM
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a reply to: beezzer

You think that was cranky?

:-)

Interesting

Why can't you answer a simple question without putting words in someone's mouth - and thinking for them?

Like I said - you might have liked my answer



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 11:31 AM
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originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: beezzer

You think that was cranky?

:-)

Interesting

Why can't you answer a simple question without putting words in someone's mouth - and thinking for them?

Like I said - you might have liked my answer


I'm using YOUR words.

I quoted YOU.

Do you stand by what you wrote?



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 11:32 AM
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If you would like my personal experience with schools?

My kids both go to the same school but, one gets more food. Because he needs more "positive reinforcement " read bribe. So my older son complained. They told him he hadn't made the same deals. When he tried he was told he wasn't having the same behavior issues.

My child then told that teacher he watches them all day and he knew how to have those behavior issues! So he then said he would take the snack a payment not to do that as well. True story.

My children's school isn't starving my children. I wish they didn't use food as a reward. I also wish the food was of a higher quality but, the kids don't go hungry.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 11:33 AM
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originally posted by: TsukiLunar
a reply to: Spiramirabilis




She is the Devil



I agree. Her extreme stance on the issue is reminiscent of Nazi Germany. When Hitler did that killing thing the other day, he was probably copying her I bet.


Interesting. Could you be a bit more specific and highlight exactly what was done in Nazi Germany that you feel is comparable to MO's stance on the issue?



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