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Is World war 3 about to break out?

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posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 11:23 AM
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a reply to: LABTECH767

Good thoughts! Thanks.
But...I sure hope your wrong about the next war going nuclear.

I've heavily discounted the idea that the next war will go nuclear because MAD makes it unwinnable. I suppose it is possible that it could go "Nuke Light", i.e. using limited blast strategic battle field nukes.

If all-out war developed as between the US and Russia/China...the US has several significant problems. Hope that never happens.




posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 01:08 PM
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a reply to: TonyS

Nuclear war is winnable if you have the technology to neutralize the other nations first or second strike capability.

Look at which military technologies are being researched and developed, the world powers know this.



posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 06:14 PM
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originally posted by: IntroduceALittleIrony
a reply to: TonyS

Nuclear war is winnable if you have the technology to neutralize the other nations first or second strike capability.
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Stop for a second and ask yourself: Are TPTB even worried about 'second strike' capability? Have they ever been?

I've seen estimates where the Russians (as we know them) can be destroyed by five strategic weapons. Others which show the entire response capability of the Chinese being eliminated by 20 well placed strikes.

So what if they get lucky with 15 or 20 of our major population areas? We've got more.



posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 06:23 PM
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I don't think WW 3 is imminent but increased regional tensions are a sure bet (he said stating the obvious). That Putin is a Stalin era throw back is certain and I think another cold war will certainly develop in the near term.

IMHO he is not stupid enough to provoke a full NATO response, even though the twits in the UN are calling for a concerted effort to establish a permanent allied force to deal with occurrences on a global scale, read NWO. The whole issue will be at the heart of another attempt to establish a world government, citing "terrorist" actions across the globe.

This, I fear, is what will come and we had best be ready for it.



posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 06:27 PM
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originally posted by: Snarl
a reply to: droid56

It's a good time for it. I saw some General on the BBC saying that NATO would have a tough time mustering an entire division of troops to fight the Russians with. And the Russians continue building up on the Ukrainian border. Couple that with the Caliphate forming itself. Back up to a satellite view of the geography ... and you'll see what I'm saying.


I joined the British Army in 1978 as a junior soldier (16yrs old) Military Education was on the curriculum and of course the cold war was still on. We were taught that NATO had no answer to Russia back then, and were only there as a defensive force never an offensive one. It was sobering to be taught that Russia could reach the coast of France in 3-5 days and my life expectancy would be around 6 seconds in a conventional theatre.
edit on 1-9-2014 by 18731542 because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 07:15 PM
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This is the anniversary that RUSSIA GERMANY invaded poland after getting the hand of friendship missed many times

but the backer's for all this work all have this video in mind

Fund both side , build it up to knock it down , and get tax rebates at the same time

build it up /knock it down /build it up to knock it down

And with every country in Europe on alert and anybody who is anybody saying the party line

fun so watch pls

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posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 07:16 PM
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originally posted by: 18731542

originally posted by: Snarl
a reply to: droid56

It's a good time for it. I saw some General on the BBC saying that NATO would have a tough time mustering an entire division of troops to fight the Russians with. And the Russians continue building up on the Ukrainian border. Couple that with the Caliphate forming itself. Back up to a satellite view of the geography ... and you'll see what I'm saying.


I joined the British Army in 1978 as a junior soldier (16yrs old) Military Education was on the curriculum and of course the cold war was still on. We were taught that NATO had no answer to Russia back then, and were only there as a defensive force never an offensive one. It was sobering to be taught that Russia could reach the coast of France in 3-5 days and my life expectancy would be around 6 seconds in a conventional theatre.


Back then ... The US had quite a contingent in Europe. I looked this weekend and there is less than a single combat division remaining. If the Russian wanted to, he could make what you said above a sudden reality.

Putin has had power for an extremely long time. Anyone who thinks about it, will realize that kind of power is not something one gives up easily. From there ... all you have to figure out is: How does he prolong it?

I said it a long time ago. Russia needs a land bridge to hold on to its gain of Crimea. Russia will take Eastern Ukraine. TPTB are trying to figure out a way to save face while Putin 'pushes it in' a little deeper. The Chinese are watching this porn and getting ideas of their own.

Yeah ... I'd say the stage is set. Who do you think will get England? The Russians or the Muslims?



posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 08:49 PM
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originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: IntroduceALittleIrony
a reply to: TonyS

Nuclear war is winnable if you have the technology to neutralize the other nations first or second strike capability.
.

Stop for a second and ask yourself: Are TPTB even worried about 'second strike' capability? Have they ever been?

I've seen estimates where the Russians (as we know them) can be destroyed by five strategic weapons. Others which show the entire response capability of the Chinese being eliminated by 20 well placed strikes.

So what if they get lucky with 15 or 20 of our major population areas? We've got more.



Not to mention.....UFOs appearing over Russian military facilities and rendering such inoperable. LOL You know just removing a few bolts at a distance.



posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 08:54 PM
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Sure..WWIII could happen..

It's also just as likely that this is the world doing what it does but now people are connected and can find something out within seconds or minutes of it happening so it makes it feel so much more dramatic.

If you look back at history their have been disasters, edge of war, illness, severe weather, a bigger country doing something to a smaller country for decades.

To this point I haven't seen anything to indicate a repetition of the pattern we just get to know about those events faster then any other age.



posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 10:10 PM
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You can say war has already begun. Only it is not a war with bombs and guns, but a war with economic sanctions and such. The actions are meant to be offensive with ill intent.

Now whether this conflict is genuine, or staged to accomplish hidden objectives by 'higher' powers.. who knows..



posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 10:27 PM
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When is the last time since WWII that there hasn't been war raging away on some part of the planet?
Isn't everything connected anyhow by proxy?

WWII never ended.
The Nazis moved here and there and keep working.

Germany lost but the Nazis won and the war has not ended.



posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 11:17 PM
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At the very top they are all on the same side, this posturing is all a charade to keep the masses scared and frightened but ultimately hide the theft of a Nations wealth from their people in a game that never ends. When enough people wake up and say "I will send my children off to war after you send yours" to the chess players we may stand a chance. Or if we just totally ignore and dis-empower the main stream lying media, when they go broke humanity and peace may stand a chance.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 11:41 PM
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posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 11:57 PM
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I think i will see WW3 in my life and maybe in the next 1-2 years the way the tail is wagging the dog
every day you open your eye's the world is getting crazier and crazier .

But as always when the banking house's need a reset to balance the book's we get a war or a plague breaking out
i do hope i am 100 wrong but i have been on the planet long enough to feel a bad moon rising



posted on Sep, 3 2014 @ 12:22 AM
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originally posted by: droid56
When the first 2 world wars began, I imagine people minus the sources of information we have today were surprised.
But in this internet age, people are connected to many streams of information, some bogus, some truthful.


You will know when WW3 starts..... your internet will become limited, propaganda will increase... then you will see a beautiful light show in the skies as satellites get knocked out.... WW3 will be the 1st space war. Information age will be taking a backseat.



posted on Sep, 3 2014 @ 02:30 AM
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No one who is not a science-fiction writer, here or elsewhere, now or in previous decades, has been bold enough to project his or her own mind very far into the future, like at least one thousand years, and imagine, for example, how World War IV and World War V will be like, maybe because everybody thinks that World War III would be "the war to end all wars" and even the war to end all of humankind, which could be a false assumption. Even the best-known futurologists, like legendary, roly-poly Herman Kahn, have been too shy when moving ahead in time. It seems like I'll have to do it myself.

Meanwhile, I challenge others to start a new field of study called "worldwarology". My own guess, based on personal experiences that I will never discuss and that hint at our collective future, is that modern civilization is far more resilient than everyone thinks it is and that it will collapse slowly, as was the case for the Roman Empire. It has about another 500 to 800 years to go. As in the said case, many factors will contribute to its downfall, and not only wars, but also the scarcity of natural resources, and maybe an inversion of the polarity of the magnetic field of the planet, which could cause worldwide catastrophes involving earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. Science says that this phenomenon is long overdue.

In the end the few survivors will abandon the cities and go live in collective farms similar to the kibbutzim. This will be the beginning of a healthier humankind, a true Golden Age.

What about the space aliens? They can't get involved directly because that would violate the Law of Free Will and Personal Effort. They have always been with us, guiding those who, like them, have gone into their own inner space and can communicate telepathically. They can do no more for humans with brutish tendencies. It would be embarrassing for our kind to have amongst us people who can read minds. That's another reason for their not approaching more than necessary.

I'm also suggesting ATS that a forum on World Wars IV and V be created, or a Postwar forum. There the biggest question to be discussed is how many world wars we can handle. A public poll would probably show that 80 percent of the people think that a nuclear war would be the end, 15 percent think that there could be a fourth and last one and only 5 percent think that a fifth one is possible. Maybe only one percent think that this could go on indefinitely, in a world where nuclear weapons and firearms are no longer available because we will have reverted to a more primitive existence.

edit on 3-9-2014 by quodlibet because: Placed "worldwarology" in quotation marks and a space between two paragraphs. No big deal.



posted on Sep, 5 2014 @ 04:59 PM
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Sanctions Boomerang, Threaten U.S. Supply of Russian Rocket Engines
www.thenewamerican.com...



While threatening to shut off America’s supply of rocket engines to support the International Space Station and the EELV program may seem a small thing at the moment, it is indicative of the potential threat that suppliers of critical U.S. military supplies by enemies such as Putin can now employ because of those entangling alliances.


The space war is starting to gear up....



posted on Sep, 5 2014 @ 05:36 PM
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originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: 18731542

originally posted by: Snarl
a reply to: droid56

It's a good time for it. I saw some General on the BBC saying that NATO would have a tough time mustering an entire division of troops to fight the Russians with. And the Russians continue building up on the Ukrainian border. Couple that with the Caliphate forming itself. Back up to a satellite view of the geography ... and you'll see what I'm saying.


I joined the British Army in 1978 as a junior soldier (16yrs old) Military Education was on the curriculum and of course the cold war was still on. We were taught that NATO had no answer to Russia back then, and were only there as a defensive force never an offensive one. It was sobering to be taught that Russia could reach the coast of France in 3-5 days and my life expectancy would be around 6 seconds in a conventional theatre.


Back then ... The US had quite a contingent in Europe. I looked this weekend and there is less than a single combat division remaining. If the Russian wanted to, he could make what you said above a sudden reality.

Putin has had power for an extremely long time. Anyone who thinks about it, will realize that kind of power is not something one gives up easily. From there ... all you have to figure out is: How does he prolong it?

I said it a long time ago. Russia needs a land bridge to hold on to its gain of Crimea. Russia will take Eastern Ukraine. TPTB are trying to figure out a way to save face while Putin 'pushes it in' a little deeper. The Chinese are watching this porn and getting ideas of their own.

Yeah ... I'd say the stage is set. Who do you think will get England? The Russians or the Muslims?


Russia's active forces are about 700K with about 2 million in reserve. NATOs total active forces are over 3 million with about 4 million in reserve. Although only about 1.4 million NATO troops are considered ready for deployment that is far more than would be needed to stop any Russian advance and begin a counter offensive. That does not count non NATO EU members who by treaty would defend Europe, or nations like Macedonia, Montenegro, Georgia, Kosovo, Moldova who all want to be NATO members and would aid in the cause. Then you have allies of the US/France/UK through out the rest of the world.



posted on Sep, 8 2014 @ 07:19 AM
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Wasn't the Cold War WWIII already? A war can be led by embargos , sanctions and today with digital instruments and doesn't necessarily need weapons. I think we are having a dozens of world wars already if you consider this.



posted on Sep, 8 2014 @ 05:57 PM
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I think the countdown has begun. Heads down.



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