It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.


Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.


Help ATS via PayPal:
learn more

Is World war 3 about to break out?

page: 1
<<   2  3 >>

log in


posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 12:49 AM
When the first 2 world wars began, I imagine people minus the sources of information we have today were surprised.
But in this internet age, people are connected to many streams of information, some bogus, some truthful.

So are we actually being manipulated into WW3, as a plan for the One World Government types, or is this Ukraine thing just a blip on the screen of post 9/11 history?

posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 12:56 AM
a reply to: droid56

It's a good time for it. I saw some General on the BBC saying that NATO would have a tough time mustering an entire division of troops to fight the Russians with. And the Russians continue building up on the Ukrainian border. Couple that with the Caliphate forming itself. Back up to a satellite view of the geography ... and you'll see what I'm saying.

posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 01:04 AM
Back when information was not so easily disseminated it was relatively easy to control what information reached the public. If a war broke out back then it would be easy for a government to control what was printed or broadcast. One would think that it would be much harder to fool the public today, but this does not seem to be the case. This is because although there is much more information out there, there is also much more confusion, which is a direct result of the larger volume of information as it is next to impossible to determine what is accurate.

I do not think we have to worry about WWIII in the near future. I posted in a few threads when all this Ukraine/Russia talk started, and I was adamant at that time that it would not result in a major war, and I still believe that. If Putin had already made the decision for war, we wouldn't be having this conversation right now. It would have made much more sense, militarily speaking, to launch an invasion before it was quite obvious to the invaded country that they were going to be invaded, which allows them much more time to consider their options and prepare countermeasures for such military action. I stated when this started that Putin's territorial expansion would halt with Crimea, which seems to be the case.

What is going on with Partisan fighters at the moment is confusing, and even though Putin is likely behind some of these acts, this does not equate, and will not lead, to WWIII. If he is using partisan fighters, or even Russian soldiers in small groups behaving more like a guerilla force, then obviously he is doing so because he decided not to use a large invasion force. Therefore it is not really an invasion, more like an incursion of small and somewhat independent groups of fighters. There would likely be a political motive behind such a move, or an economic motive, but I do not see a truly military motive here. Putin wishes to gain something, like all other nations, and when they wish to gain something that also means that they don't want to lose what they've already gained. This almost always means that they will not risk all of that on an undetermined outcome. Putin understands, like other leaders do, that a world war, or even a war between powerful states, cannot possibly end well for either side.

Edit to Add: I made the point that if these small fighting groups were deployed then obviously a large-scale invasion was decided against in favor of such action, and I just realized that someone will undoubtedly say that such small groups are to pave the way for an actual military invasion. While this is a legitimate military idea, it makes little sense to me in this instance. Russia, if they wanted to invade Ukraine, could walk all over the Ukranian military. Thus sending in pre-invasion groups, which is usually used for either intelligence gathering or seizing key locations like river crossings, would be unnecessary precisely because the Russian military would not have to worry all that much about being held up by Ukranian forces. And intelligence gathering in this age of technological sophistication is different from conflicts where the only way to get good information was to have assets on the ground. So they need not use these groups for intelligence gathering. With all that has happened thus far, I just do not see any preparations for a massive, all out war against Ukraine.
edit on 9/1/14 by JiggyPotamus because: (no reason given)

posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 02:56 AM
a reply to: droid56

It's two fold.

First, No, I don't think it's a precursor or that there is a WWIII building.

Having said that, I'll follow up by saying that there has been a war with the Russians since WWII. And Ukraine is not Russia, but NATO invading Russia's territory. First, the Soviet Union split up. Followed by Yougoslavia, Georgia, Sheznya and now Ukraine. All of which are NATO influenced , to reduce the power zone of Russia. And Russians, they're the same stupid morons, they've always been. Thinking they can back up, and wait for winter to kill their enemies.

If the Russians don't wake up, they'll end up like Iraq ... a political chaos, with a lot of British/US Al Qaida members turning into an endless internal conflict.

And the question is now, what are the government of Russia thinking. Are they thinking like "I don't care, as long as I get some oil and gas money", for their own personal gain. Or are they thinking about stability for their own people, for a foreseeable future. NATO has been creating conflicts all over Europe, to reduce Russian influence, and US has been creating conflicts all over the world. In the heads of the US government it's "We gotta kill all our enemies, before they can get revenge on us, like 9/11. We've gotta hurry up, no time to lose". Sort of thinking ... and this means, they're relentless. And it's not going to stop with putting up missile systems in Europe, directed at Russia.

But, I firmly believe that Putin represents a power inside Russia, that is anti-Russian. That he represents a power in Russia, that is the remnants of the 5-star coalition, that won the second world war. He's in power, because if someone like Medvedev was there, Ukraine would never have occured. He's there, to force Russia to back down.

That is my belief ... now let's see what the Russians themselves have for ideas about their own future. But an outright war? Even iff russia invaded Ukraine, with all their might ... which is considerable. What is NATO going to do? any move by NATO, would be a suicide on their behalf.

edit on 1/9/2014 by bjarneorn because: (no reason given)

posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 03:08 AM
The problem involves the U.S. economy weakening gradually, together with the petro-dollar, due to over-spending and increasing debt. Add to that peak oil and global warming.

posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 03:18 AM
YES IT IS!!! I'm gearing up as I speak... and theres a crack on my acog which is a bummer.


Not really no.

There will be no ww3.

posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 04:11 AM
Well don't think the USA can beat Russia conventionally, they couldn't win in Iraq which is 20 times smaller and less equipped. The only way the USA could beat Russia is with a first strike option, financially the 2 are poles apart now and sadly we are heading toward conflict over the World Currency just like the British Stirling Pound lost that status after WW2.

posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 04:29 AM
a reply to: mazzroth

Well don't think the USA can beat Russia conventionally, they couldn't win in Iraq which is 20 times smaller and less equipped.

LOL ... you should've been next to me during Desert Storm.

posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 04:56 AM
Somethings definitely coming up around the corner. I dont know if it would be world war 3 (purely by definition) but its going to change society.

I dont know why but the last few weeks I've been walking around worrying less about the over all economy. Wars create economic booms and its where we are headed.

We have 2 options in Ukraine, fight back or surrender it to the Russians. If we fight back, we'll be in a war!
If we let them have it, what happens when they move on Romania, Poland or Belarus?

There's a perfect storm coming, the middle east is about to be overrun by ISIS, Africa is about to be overrun by Ebola, Eastern Europe is going to poke the bear and the US is going to take on the double act of a Bankrupt economy and militants doing solo shootings/bombings from the south!

posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 05:41 AM
a reply to: droid56

With so many WW3 threads it feel's as though people are itching to go to war, they are in denial of this fact but some deep fundemental human need for conflict in order to feel secure afterward is driving these feeling's.

No one want's war but since at least the 1950's there has been a feeling of resentment in the Anglo speaking world over the loss of greatness on one part (Britain and the colonies and her close ally France who also suffered a loss of prestige) and the squandered and hoarded wealth on the other part (America who until the late 1970's enjoyed fantastic wealth but falling wage's relative to percentage of GDP and rising wealth and power in the hand's of a smaller and smaller elite of wealthy power broker's).

Meanwhile the Russian's though for the most part happy to see the end of communism have an elite of former KGB and a similar feeling of loss of prestige to what Britain suffered in that there international power and control with the fall of the soviet block has been severely curtailed.

Driven by Wealth inequality in the Islamic world were one country is fabulously wealthy with oil but it's neighbour is poverty stricken and in one country the wealth goes to one family of rulers while in another it is shared and paid to members of the tribe who are the citizenry of the country, plus Religious Extremism and the need not only to control there lives by there law's but to enforce them upon all that do not believe as they do, This too is a powder keg that it only take's one to unify them and create there fictional mahdi to bring about a world war as they will attack the west and over run the near european country's while ready made enclaves and social areas of large islamic presence that have grown up only in the last 50 years but primarily in the last 30 years in the west give them a ready source of fifth columnists behind our line's.

There will be a third or perhaps better called a Fourth world war and it will happen no matter what the power broker's and top strategists think because it will begin with they who are not at the top, probably in the islamic world and perhaps even in the west itself were they now number tens' of millions and are growing exponentially to displace the rightful heirs of these land's that are our own children.

What was that Quatrain that the angel of light put up on a thread yesterday.


La gent estrange diuisera butins
Saturne & Mars son regard furieux,
Horrible strage aux Toscans & Latins,
Grecs qui seront à frapper curieux.

The foreign people shall divide booty
Saturn in Mars shall gaze furiously
Horrible foreigners in Tuscan and Latins
Grecians shall be reluctant to strike.


Le mouuement de sens, cœur, pieds & mains
Seront d'accord, Naples, Leon, Secile.
Glaiues, feux, eaux, puis aux nobles Romains
Plongez, tuez, morts par cerueau debile.

The movement of sense, heart, feet, and hand
Shall be in one accord, Naples, Lyon, Sicille
Sword, fire, water, then the noble Romans
Drowned, killed, dead because of their weak brain.

From this thread,

Note Weak Brain's or the leaderless masses who are too stupid to realize there land is being taken by there enemy's who have only one intention, to raise there kid's on your inheritance on your children's inheritance and so to displace and in fact to wipe you out.

I am part Jewish, I am part Maori, I am mainly British but for me I think we really need a leader of our own to get behind and someone to champion the cause of our nation's over these hidden army's of young men coming to take what is our's.

I am not a racist but you would have to be blind not to see the writing on the wall and we will all have to answer to God.
A good servant made his masters money multiply but the bad one Squandered it, that is what they are doing to our kid's future's and to there inheritance for the sake of short term profit and cheap labour but they who live in ivory towers will come down when the smoke of the fire burning at there base brings them crashing down.

There is an old saying when in Rome do as the Roman's and when Nostradamus wrote those quatrains Rome had long fallen but the Roman world still exists today so all of western europe is the Rome he speak's of.
edit on 1-9-2014 by LABTECH767 because: (no reason given)

posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 05:45 AM
a reply to: Snarl

On the couch watching Fox News?

posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 06:07 AM

originally posted by: Poppcocked
a reply to: Snarl

On the couch watching Fox News?

Reporting to you live from a luxury hotel in egypt!

posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 06:22 AM
There's gonna be a WW3, they need a reason to explain the coming hyper inflation

posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 06:31 AM
It certainly feels that way. I mean I have had bad feelings before but this time it is different, there is a feeling of certainty about it and I like this has to happen. The media is making people feel that way too. The questions reporters are asking now imply that it is going to happen whether the people want it to or not. I think we have all seen this build up before and we all know what is going to happen, like a Hollywood movie, you have seen enough of them to know what is going to happen. It is almost boring really, I feel like saying "yeah, yeah, get the bullcrap over and get on with the war already".

posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 07:48 AM

Russia has no choice but to block NATO from the Crimea.

Once their naval base there is secure again the balance will be restored and the immediate threat neutralized.

posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 10:08 AM
a reply to: droid56

I it possible we're already in WWIII? Maybe WWIII won't look like the first two. Maybe it will be a sort of endless episode of asymmetric warfare. So, Ukraine kicks out it's Moscow puppet President; Russia seizes Crimea; that encourages separatists in eastern Ukraine and Russia supplies and supports them; the EU and US impose sanctions; Russia ups its game; and on and on and Russian operatives hack the US banks causing disruptions in the US markets and on and on.

Same type scenario is playing out in the Mideast.

As well, I can see this escalating, but in several new and different ways from the old World War scenario. Instead of massive ground forces, I can see a future where drones drop bombs on enemies; economies are disrupted; countries find themselves cut off from natural resources; and people find it more dangerous and problematic to travel. Add that hack attacks on economies and infrastructure including the electric grid, pumping stations and power plants.

Anyway, its just a thought.

posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 10:14 AM
in a word NO,

russians love thier children too, and in another world war no winner will emerge only degrees of losers.

“I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.” - Albert einstein

They may bluster we may bluster but that's all it is Bluster to advance certain humans that happen to live on one patch of dirt rather than another..

poster above that said american wouldn't do well due to IRAQ have you researched the U.S military capabilities because they have more crap than most other countries combined.
edit on 1/9/14 by Quantum_Squirrel because: (no reason given)

posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 10:14 AM
a reply to: TonyS

For me ww3 actually happened, it was fought out in all the proxy war's around the globe between Soviet Union and the Western Alliance, indeed that many people died though historians see them as seperate conflict's that it can only be regarded as a world war with interests of both side's in conflicts from asia to south america, even africa was brought into it and the four day war that was in the middle east was also a proxy war stoked by the soviet's in that case while you have vietnam, korea before that, nicarague to name just a few but it thankfully never turned nuclear.
The next war will probably turn nuclear though as I point out it will probably begin in the middle east or europe but if russia are not careful there resergent territorial pretensions may very well tip the balance in favour of such a war and china will probably play a much larger part in the next major conflict (they are all major it just depend's were you are standing).

posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 10:25 AM
I don't know, I suppose if we look back 50 years from now the first shots were airplanes crashing into twin towers (manufactured or otherwise).

The world has been at war since then starting with Bush's "Coalition of the Willing".....You're with us or you're with the terrorists, 'cause you're not gonna fool me again see.

Since that time the US has invaded or toppled countless regimes with the help (directly or indirectly) of compliant nations this world over. How is this not a World War? And who is the new Hitler?

posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 10:41 AM
a reply to: Rosinitiate

Let's go back a little further.

top topics

<<   2  3 >>

log in