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What is NATO?

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posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 01:19 PM
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a reply to: MrSpad

are you suggesting Treason is an outdated concept and doesn't occur? SACEUR is American but the political leadership of NATO is often, if not always, European and the deputy SACEUR is British.

Why would any American subject himself to European political leadership or have a British guy as his wingman in a fight?

you guys are revealing how clueless you are to how things work in this world, I think.

I don't know what world you are living in but the British and Nazi's, moreso, are rivals and sometimes enemies and in the case of Nazi's eternal, Rule of War style, enemies of America...plain and simple. and just because we aren't fighting with one another doesn't mean we're friends.

with thinking like yours America's military leaders will be commanding an Army of ISIS in 20 years.

America would be good to lose its bases in Europe by withdrawing from NATO and deport all non-American NATO soldiers and intelligence operatives in America at the same time.

problem with ISIS solved.




posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 01:29 PM
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a reply to: DJW001

I don't have the strength or patience to manage a thread. but this thread is about What is NATO?

OP, probably doesn't want us to regurgitate the NATO website to him, but is asking a deeper question.

I'm telling you what NATO is...whether you can accept it or not is another issue.

NATO is the device that former and current "royalty" in Europe, the Middle East and Africa have used to keep America engaged in its adventures. Its natural enemies are constitutional democracies and its natural allies are monarchies and theocracies.

it enjoys making things look like things other than what they are.

they are accomplished at hunting and trapping all types of life forms.



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 05:04 PM
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NATO has always appeared to be nothing more than an extension of the US military, doing the bidding of the US to give the impression of legitimacy of International military conquest for US gain.

a reply to: Britguy

The UK is part of NATO making this comment nonsense. You obviously realise the MIC on both sides of the Atlantic profited from such imperial ventures long before NATO was even formed...



posted on Sep, 2 2014 @ 05:06 PM
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Years of observation of reality, not press soundbites, political talking heads or internet descriptions of what NATO is or what it's role may be.
a reply to: Britguy

Which reality is that then?



posted on Mar, 4 2018 @ 10:12 PM
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NATO is a British manufactured tool, designed to enforce the Cold War in such a way that there could not possibly be a US-Russian alliance after WW2. The main pro-NATO character in the US at the time was Truman, but the obvious inventor of NATO was Churchill.

In any case what would be fun to see is, what happens to Germany with all the Turks, if Turkey was to pull out of NATO (or maybe the US).
Ah ... stupid question! The "Grosse Koalition" was made to tackle these contingencies.



posted on Mar, 5 2018 @ 12:55 AM
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a reply to: Flanker86

Russia was given the option of joining NATO and were a partner in peace member. Putin on the other hand thinks Russia is the USSR and somehow still maters. The morons turned down membership when the learned they would be treated as all other NATO members - equal regardless of size and strength. He couldnt wrap his brain around the fact the BENELUX countries have veto power over larger countries.

Bitch all you want but -
NATO still exists and the Warsaw pact doesnt.
NATO still exists and the Soviet Union doesnt.
NATO still matters and Putin doesnt.

Also is there any particular reason you keep necroing threads? You responded to a thread that stopped activity in 2014.
edit on 5-3-2018 by Xcathdra because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 5 2018 @ 05:32 AM
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a reply to: Flanker86

I like how you practically spit "Churchill" out. It is true that NATO was designed to "keep America in, Russia out, and Germany down." The goal was not to make US-USSR reconciliation impossible. It was the USSR who made that impossible by refusing to return territory it had captured during the war.

Prior to the German invasion, the Baltic states were independent. Stalin incorporated them into the USSR because they provided year round ports. Putin wants them back for the same reason. This is why NATO has become even more relevant now.

Section V of the NATO charter makes it impossible for Putin to invade Poland or Lithuania the way he did Ukraine. Instead, he has been waging information warfare in an attempt to stir up ethnic clashes in the Suwalki Gap. Internet rumors are circulating in Polish, Lithuanian, and of course, Russian. Since Putin has announced that his doctrine is to defend "ethnic Russians everywhere" this is presumably an opening move.
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posted on Mar, 5 2018 @ 08:18 PM
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NATO has never invaded a nation that refused to join / do what they want.
Russia cant make that claim.

I can think of at least one, Yugoslavia, and Ukraine

NATO has not used the threat of nuclear weapons to get what they want.
Russia cant make that claim.

I can think of one, the USA.

NATO did not occupy East Europe for 50 years after WWII.
Russia cant make that claim.

On this you’re correct but the USA did and still occupies with military bases, Japan, Korea, Germany, Uk and a many others.

NATO did not invade Ukraine.
Russia cant make that claim.

Ya thanks they did, they regime changed Ukraine.

Its looks perfectly clear that Russia is the thug, not NATO.

Sure does, the US is the aggressor. Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen and dozens of others in the last hundred years. You’re a pathetic propagandist as always. Every time you post I laugh. You’re nothing more than a WH talking point pusher.
edit on 5-3-2018 by HickoryStick because: Spelling and grammar.



posted on Mar, 5 2018 @ 08:35 PM
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a reply to: MrSpad

NATO or US base makes no difference, it’s the same lot. Stop being dense will ya, the US has indeed surrounded Russia, China, Iran with bases. Tell me who is the aggressor. The fact that you’re a moderator is really sad. I would expect a little more unbiased opinion. But then again, spreading propaganda while accusing others of it does not surprise me. Thank god there is a few of us left that challenge you warmongers that think your s**t don’t stink.



posted on Mar, 5 2018 @ 08:57 PM
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a reply to: HickoryStick

Relax! Russia has been developing its Arctic fleet while the United State has been squandering its resources on western Asian territories that no longer have strategic value. N'zdrovya!



posted on Mar, 6 2018 @ 12:46 AM
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a reply to: HickoryStick

No one has been surrounded and constantly repeating that lie doesnt make it true.



posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 07:13 PM
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a reply to: DJW001

It’s spelled na zdrowie in my native tongue, I’m not Russian



posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 07:16 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: HickoryStick

No one has been surrounded and constantly repeating that lie doesnt make it true.


You’re like a broken record. No one believes your drivel. How you actually spew this nonsense without making yourself ill, I’ll never figure out. Regardless, you make me laugh most of the time with your anti Russian rhetoric. Outside of this character flaw of yours, you’ve had some decent posts that don’t pertain to your Russian bias.







 
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