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originally posted by: paxnatus
I feel the need to clarify something, No classified info was shared with me period....It is all public knowledge...I know better than to put myself or him and buddies in that situation....As a highly trained soldier so does he!
Please do not think he broke any rules of OPSEC he didn't nor did I...Here are the public details ........maybe this will make you feel better....
hursday morning, Shaffer appeared on WMAL radio in Washington, D.C., to discuss the ISIS execution of American journalist James Foley earlier this week. He told me and co-host Brian Wilson that the recently revealed rescue attempt led by Special Forces earlier this summer failed because President Obama was slow to give the go-ahead:
I’m hearing from my friends in the Pentagon, they are giving him every single option way ahead of time. And let me give you a little secret here: The reason that raid into Syria failed to get Foley and those guys was because the president drug his feet. He waited too long, the intel got stale, and by the time we actually gave the “go” word it failed because we just didn’t react quick enough.
Thank you for all you replies.
originally posted by: paxnatus
So Kerry as bumbling as he is sees the need for more than airstrikes.
And yet here is Obama's response to this Clear and Present Danger!
Obama told White House reporters on Thursday: “We don’t have a strategy yet.”
My question is, why is Obama blatantly lying?? There is a clear, precise plan in place and he knows this yet is refusing to give the military the go ahead!! WHY? Why is he stalling, AGAIN? IS HE IN ON IT? Perhaps this is the way for the terrorists to hit us and be successful killing thousands? I mean, what better time for IS to attack us! Our boys are half way around the world WAITING for our lame duck President to give the light up command! But that command is not coming.......This is very suspect to me......
What do you guys think? Is there a rational reason behind the stall tactics?
As always, thank you for your time...
originally posted by: NonsensicalUserName
a reply to: paxnatus
I think its a good thing our president is waiting to act.
Waiting to act, waiting to actually have a strategy and a plan in place is a better way to go about things than just jumping into a conflict in a gung-ho manner.
originally posted by: ThichHeaded
Meanwhile in a class room in FL a republican president read a goat book while planes crash into buildings..
originally posted by: whatnext21
I think the problem of where to begin is the problem. For one your POTUS doesn't even call them by the same name everyone else does. Why does he still refer to them as ISIL??
For one to think that this problem is only 'over there' is wishful thinking.
My feeling is that they are everywhere and ready to do some serious damage when they are ready. These are serious times ahead and at no time in my life have I ever felt that we are all one day away from an attack and we won't even see it coming. I don't think this group is going to announce their plans to anyone they are too ruthless for that. God help us all...
originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: nenothtu
Maybe it's just me, we all know I'm not the brightest knife in the shower, but every time I read or see something from Kerry, I'm reminded of Neville Chaimberlain.
originally posted by: Variable
I don't think he is lying -technically. Until he approves the plan there is no plan. Depends on what your definition of "is" is i guess. No doubt these types of actions are pretty common, we just don't hear about most of them. Obama is a indecisive hand-wringer with a penchant for distrust of the "Military option." No doubt he pondered long and hard about the Osama mission, but luckily Osama stayed put.
Unnamed sources told you the intel was good but acted upon too late. How many times have we heard this? I don't doubt it one bit, i just think we won't know the truth for years until all the books are written about the Obama admin. I think we can safely assume Obama will go down as one of the worst US presidents in history. We shall see. He certainly has the feel of a Nero playing a fiddle while Rome burned. Probably did not really happen but the metaphor works for me.
originally posted by: Bassago
a reply to: paxnatus
Two possible reasons I can think of. First he's trying to hold off anything major until after NATO meets in a few days in the UK. I don't remember what day that is exactly but pretty soon. The bombing raids have been continuing in Iraq to a limited degree but he may want another UN "coalition of the willing" before stepping into that hornets nest again.
The second is that by doing nothing major at this point perhaps something will happen that will benefit him or his position. That could be anything, bad or good but I'll not speculate. Note I didn't say our position because I don't really believe he cares about that.
originally posted by: sheepslayer247
I still fail to see why IS, ISIS, ISIL.....whatever, is any concern of ours. Why are we falling for all this fear and propaganda, making us think we have to do something, when the Middle East nations should rally to take care of the problem? But they are being lazy and asking us to do it for them?
I'm glad Obama is not doing anything. Well, he should pull all the troops back home if ISIS is a real threat to American soil. But methinks they are not a threat at all.
That's my opinion anyway.
originally posted by: Kukri
There's 180+ other countries on this rock what makes Obama the be all end all solution to a problem half way around the planet? Or is thisone of those American exceptionalism threads?
Why don't we let the Arabs clean up their own yard for once and keepour noses out of everyone elses business. I for one can think of better things to spend my tax dollars on, not to mention wasting the lives of friends and loved ones.
P.S. Good thing I'm not NCIS because it seems you and your friend are violating OPSEC. I recommend he keeps the pillowtalk to sweet nothings in the future.
originally posted by: buster2010
What is your first hand information? Can we have names so we can check on these people?
What cost Foley his life was his job he knew the risks and accepted them.
Why is it that the people who aren't in harms way keep saying we need to act now and always follow up with "I don't want to see that happen".
The US and UK face very little threat from ISIS or ISIL or whatever they are calling themselves this week. They are only attacking places they know will give little resistance.
It is up to the nations that ISIS has attacked to deal with ISIS we should worry about fixing our own nation before solving other nations problems.