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B2 Bomber - Is it really a viable weapon for the future ?

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posted on Aug, 31 2014 @ 07:44 AM
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Several of you have managed to point out that planes get shot down in combat, who knew?
The b-17 is considered one of the best bombers in history. Check out the beating those things took when they started bombing Germany.
The f-117 did an excellent job in Iraq back in 1991, but they only flew at night. Why do you suppose they didn't fly that big black triangle in daytime? Oh yeah, you can see it...
The point is that every weapons system has limitations. They will function better when used correctly.
Bombers are safer with a fighter escort.
Nuclear subs prefer to operate in deep water.
Infantry is more effective with artillary.
Yes the b-2 has its limitations, but that doesn't mean that is not very effective in those conditions.




posted on Aug, 31 2014 @ 08:16 AM
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a reply to: Domo1I have "heard" that lightning can adversely effect one of the active systems on the B2, but in that same conversation I have heard of a system in development or fresh out that will counter act that effect and is being refined and implemented on future aircraft.



posted on Aug, 31 2014 @ 08:22 AM
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a reply to: buntalanlucuThis is the age for the B2 not the future. As awesome of an aircraft that the Spirit is, it to will one day be as obsolete as a B-17.



posted on Aug, 31 2014 @ 06:43 PM
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Nobody has brought up the point yet that the b-2 is just like having nuclear missiles. It's a deterrent. You mess with us we will bomb the # out of you without you even see it coming. It's worth the price right there.



posted on Aug, 31 2014 @ 08:59 PM
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a reply to: boomer135

But we do have nukes so why both? Just curious really. And we have stealth cruise missiles, stealth drones and anti grav super stealth light speed saucers (jk) but really why do we need such crazy costly bombers? A bunch of cruise missiles sneaks in and does the same thing.



posted on Aug, 31 2014 @ 09:02 PM
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a reply to: NiZZiM

And where are those cruise missiles going to come from? A non-stealthy bomber highlights the fact that there are cruise missiles incoming. A sub rings a bell when it launches a cruise missile salvo. And ships are obvious when they're off the coast. How much more effective would it be if you were hit with little to no warning.

As for nukes, that's a little overkill 99.9% of the time.
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posted on Aug, 31 2014 @ 09:18 PM
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originally posted by: NiZZiM
a reply to: boomer135

But we do have nukes so why both? Just curious really. And we have stealth cruise missiles, stealth drones and anti grav super stealth light speed saucers (jk) but really why do we need such crazy costly bombers? A bunch of cruise missiles sneaks in and does the same thing.


Really the answer is because its part of the nuclear triad that guarantees MAD with the ICBMs, SLBMs, and nuclear bombers. But the B-2 was built at a time when the cost was not supposed to be even close to the 2 billion dollars a piece they were. The costs of the program is what eventually limited the buy to 21 aircraft.

And zaphod makes a point. Its not just about nukes. But the B-2s conventional payload is a big reason for the deterrent role.



posted on Aug, 31 2014 @ 10:01 PM
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Let me first say I seriously don't see the B2
getting shelved anytime soon.
It's still one heck of a LRSB.
But..If the bleep really hit the fan..
Let just say,
Space, is the final frontier.
Quick targeting, world wide capabilities
exotic weapons and always at the ready.
Just orbiting and waiting.

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posted on Aug, 31 2014 @ 10:33 PM
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originally posted by: UnderKingsPeak
Let me first say I seriously don't see the B2
getting shelved anytime soon.
It's still one heck of a LRSB.
But..If the bleep really hit the fan..
Let just say,
Space, is the final frontier.
Quick targeting, world wide capabilities
exotic weapons and always at the ready.
Just orbiting and waiting.


It is the future for sure but I don't think were quite there yet



posted on Aug, 31 2014 @ 10:44 PM
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a reply to: boomer135
Thanks Boomer.
Yes I totally meant the future.





posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 12:08 AM
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the cost for flying B2 per hour is so crazy expensive..

and not to mention the advancement of radars from Russian and Chinese..

if Iran can detect stealth drone that easily, what can they do in the next 5 or 10 years ahead ?

the B2 will be practically obsolete by that time..



posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 05:09 AM
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a reply to: buntalanlucu

One stealth UAV brought down doesn't suddenly make stealth obsolete. There are a number of ways that they could have detected it.

If a single detection made it obsolete they would have gotten rid of it in 99.



posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 07:38 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: buntalanlucu

One stealth UAV brought down doesn't suddenly make stealth obsolete. There are a number of ways that they could have detected it.

If a single detection made it obsolete they would have gotten rid of it in 99.


didnt the USAF got rid of all F117 except 1 for flight testing ?



posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 07:55 PM
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a reply to: buntalanlucu

Because they were older, and getting more expensive to maintain.



posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 08:59 PM
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The coating on the B2 is expensive because it can withstand a nuclear detonation! Makes no sense to throw the B2 in the trash when all the money and technology that is currently invested in it.



posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 09:13 PM
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You may really want to Check out this Study done! Very Interesting Pictures in there! Zaph thought they nuked it off the internet and they have not.

www.dtic.mil...



posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 09:29 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: buntalanlucu

Because they were older, and getting more expensive to maintain.


can you provide quotation for that ? i thought it is because the serb's downing of F117 and the wreck was distributed to russia and china that caused the retirement



posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 09:35 PM
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a reply to: buntalanlucu

It had absolutely nothing to do with that. They weren't retired until something like 8 years after that happened.

Other aircraft and weapons became able to do the mission, and retiring them saved the Air Force over $1B.


Though advanced for its time, the F-117's stealthy faceted airframe required a large amount of maintenance and was eventually superseded by streamlined shapes produced with computer-aided design. Other weapons began to take on the F-117A's roles, such as the F-22 Raptor gaining ability to drop guided bombs in 1993.[59] By 2005 the aircraft was used only for certain missions, such as if a pilot needed to verify that the correct target had been hit, or when minimal collateral damage was vital.[35]

The Air Force had once planned to retire the F-117 in 2011, but Program Budget Decision 720 (PBD 720), dated 28 December 2005, proposed retiring it by October 2008 to free up an estimated $1.07 billion[60] to buy more F-22s.[37] PBD 720 called for 10 F-117s to be retired in FY2007 and the remaining 42 in FY2008, stating that other Air Force planes and missiles could stealthily deliver precision payloads, including the B-2 Spirit, F-22 and JASSM.[61]

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 09:39 PM
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a reply to: themadgenius

I thought they nuked that a few years ago. I'm surprised to see that it's still around.



posted on Sep, 1 2014 @ 09:40 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

Just want to comment that Bazarts comment jibes with the word I got from maintainers in 7 Level school.

Its one of the reasons the B-52 hasn't been retired yet, the B-2 has weather issues, it doesn't make it obsolete but it does have its limits due to weather issues.

its not a fix after every flight, but it does cause issues.


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