originally posted by: live2beknown
Tired of reading these posts of what people think they know.. There isn't any proof of the Alphabetical agencies funding these terrorist groups.
You people on here always blame America for everything, I know they aren't innocent all the time..but it's getting old..and with False Flags?? wow go ride Alex Jones.. It's you people that ruin the conspiracy world.
Gees any person can go and make a bomb and blow something up, and your first reaction would be "FALSE FLAGG"..ya no..
ISIL or ISIS or IS is a fked up terrorist group, that needs to be bombed to pieces and many other like it..Interesting to read that Al Qaeda and the Taliban are even against this group and don't believe in what they do, and are even Enemies to IS.
Don't you think these groups would give proof of America funding them, after America bombs them??
originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Government engineered false-flag terrorism is a historically established fact.
Got this far then gave up.
ISIS is not some group created by US.gov, it is a group with its own rich history and its own roots that do not involve any of the US alphabet agencies helping them along.
ISIS and groups like them exist because bad people get really pissed of when they do not get their own way and do bad things.
its not difficult.
and its not a false flag.
originally posted by: live2beknown
There isn't any proof of the Alphabetical agencies funding these terrorist groups.
originally posted by: crankyoldman
The word "proof" is a major problem. What you mean by proof is a way to show you in ways that are agreed upon as proof. Currently this written, science, or first hand. There is plenty of that, an inordinate amount of it, some found on the web, most not. So proof isn't what you are after, as there is more then enough of that to be easily had.
There are no conspiracies, none, there are only plans, that, when they are all put together can equal what we call a conspiracy, but that thread that connects the plans is weak as the plans are sadly seen in parts, rather then a whole.
The key to understanding what is really happening is to look at the great symbol. The all seeing eye. It stands for the unseen, not the bilderberg or any such stuff, but the unseen folks who control this reality - they see all. They also control all. At the top of the NWO as you describe are beings largely beyond your comprehension, in fact they programmed you not to comprehend them, so they may remain hidden. Their agenda is something beyond those of the stooges they employ. The NWO, CFF, Trilateral etc. are all made up of employees of these unseen. Most have zero idea about that they have gotten themselves into, and most will never know, but they are simply doing the bidding of the unseen, and, were the unseen to ever return to physical reality (something unlikely at this point) they would all be killed first as they sold out their own people for money and the unseen do not trust them.
To grasp what I have said you need to be able to comprehend the entire picture, not the way it has been presented to you, but the way it is. You have to be able to use senses beyond your standard system, and you have to be able to understand symbols that you have no programming for and this is not easy as there is so much going against it.
Do not ask for proof, you will never get it - ever. Ask to "know," as to "understand," ask to "feel," but don't expect another to show you something you cannot comprehend yet as that is impossible - you need to understand the language first, before you can see what is happening on the levels you question.
originally posted by: whyamIhere
We just suck in the ME.
We tell them when we are leaving. They waited and planned.
Though I agree with much of your OP.
Stevie Wonder could see this coming. Certainly ATS did.
We don't understand their Culture or their Religion.
So now we see the result of our countless policy and military mistakes.
I would leave and draw a real line in the sand. Cross it, and it's ashtray time.
originally posted by: abe froman
So, if ISIS is a creation of the west, especially an American invention, are you saying that Obama is backing ISIS? Or is it somehow still Bush and the Republicans fault?
originally posted by: zysin5
But the whole Right VS Left blame game.. Gets us no where. It turns us into dogs chasing our own tails...
This is achieved by a Hegelian dialectical process of creating adversaries. Domestically, the illuminati dialectic is mirrored by George Soros who funds the left, and the Koch Brothers who fund and control the right. The radical Left and Islam are also funded by corporations through the Tides foundation. You can bet that this funding extends to media control through ownership or advertising. It also extends to universities, foundations and think tanks.
Revealed: Illuminati Bankers' Control Strategy
The the Hegelian dialectics which once you take the deductive way of reasoning you see the thesis, antithesis, synthesis all over the globe. When George Bush said: 'Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.' he made a thesis (we the good guys) against the antithesis (they, the bad guys). Like in All Star Wrestling which was nothing but an exercise in dialectics. Hulk Hogan went from one camp to the other, but there never was a third choice. In propaganda this called a false dilemma. As in reality you can be with both, against both, be neutral with one and with/against the other. All in all, there is many more choices. But people usually fall into the trap and choose one or the other.
What is the Hegelian Dialectic?