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originally posted by: Eyemin
I wonder if the jet was able to avoid the airliners radar. If it wasn't able to remain undetected wouldn't the airliner have called it in. Maybe we should also look at the transcripts.
Also wasn't there some time that no investigators were allowed to the crash scene? I am certain though that the honest, misunderstood rebels wouldn't have tampered with evidence.
originally posted by: Soapusmaximus
a reply to: flammadraco
I didn't claim they said it in any press release - it is in their official report , they wouldn't draw attention to that fact in press releases, that would defeat the point and publicise the counter explanation.
No actually Russia has said nothing of the sort, in fact they have merely provided proof that a radar blip was detected breaking above 5000 meters and tailing the Boing 777 .
The Russian military detected a Ukrainian SU-25 fighter jet gaining height towards the MH17 Boeing on the day of the catastrophe. Kiev must explain why the military jet was tracking the passenger airplane, the Russian Defense Ministry said.
A Ukraine Air Force military jet was detected gaining height, it’s distance from the Malaysian Boeing was 3 to 5km,” said the head of the Main Operations Directorate of the HQ of Russia’s military forces, Lieutenant-General Andrey Kartopolov speaking at a media conference in Moscow on Monday.
“[We] would like to get an explanation as to why the military jet was flying along a civil aviation corridor at almost the same time and at the same level as a passenger plane,” he stated.
“The SU-25 fighter jet can gain an altitude of 10km, according to its specification,” he added. “It’s equipped with air-to-air R-60 missiles that can hit a target at a distance up to 12km, up to 5km for sure.”
They have never made any accusations, unlike the west - Russia has only showed the facts from what I and many others can tell (I am talking about this shootdown event, I am not claiming Russia doesn't lie.
I do remember hearing this plane was diverted hundreds of miles away from where it should have been
2/ Putin had flown over that area 30 minutes before
Malaysia Airlines joined Liow in defending its use of the route over Ukraine, saying in a statement Friday that the flight plan had been approved by Eurocontrol, the air navigation service provider responsible for determining flight paths over Europe.
No you are wrong here, it has most definitely shown to have been another aircraft without a secondary transponder , tailing the boing and then circling the area after the impact occurred.
The Russians have released the actual radar data, as far as I know the only country that has.
originally posted by: Soapusmaximus
a reply to: flammadraco
From what I can gather - the report has not been finalized yet but members of the investigation team have made these comments and it has been confirmed to be accurate.
Please see this link
but this is as far as the story go's.
“shrapnel-like, almost machine gun-like holes.”