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originally posted by: jamespond
originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: MikeHawke
your just following what someone else says (which is called second hand knowledge)
You know what the wonderful thing is about science.
You don't have to follow or believe anything anyone else says.
If you doubt any part of it all you need is the motivation to prove or disprove it. That may mean you need to educate yourself enough to do so but again that falls within the subject of "motivation".
Brings me to another wonderful thing about science. If you can disprove some aspect of whats excepted your findings will be celebrated not shunned.
Can the same be said about religions??? I think not.
You know what the bad thing about science is?
One day it will fail completely.
You see, science will never be able to tell us how a huge universe came to be from absolutely nothing. And before you come at me with the big bang theory, first I need science to tell me what caused the big bang to happen, what was there in nothingness that caused it?
I think you will find those answers to be similar to those of religion, something no one can actually prove!
An before I get labelled a religious person, can I just confirm that i'm not a Christian, or any other religion for that matter. However I do believe that something outside of our existence created our world.
You know what the wonderful thing is about science.
You don't have to follow or believe anything anyone else says.
If you doubt any part of it all you need is the motivation to prove or disprove it. That may mean you need to educate yourself enough to do so but again that falls within the subject of "motivation".
Brings me to another wonderful thing about science. If you can disprove some aspect of whats excepted your findings will be celebrated not shunned.
Can the same be said about religions??? I think not.
Upon examination of the horn under a high-powered microscope back at CSUN, Dacus says Armitage was “fascinated” to find soft tissue on the sample – a discovery Bacus said stunned members of the school’s biology department and even some students“because it indicates that dinosaurs roamed the earth only thousands of years in the past rather than going extinct 60 million years ago.”
“Since some creationists, like [Armitage], believe that the triceratops bones are only 4,000 years old at most, [Armitage's] work vindicated his view that these dinosaurs roamed the planet relatively recently,” according to the complaint filed July 22 in Los Angeles Superior Court.
The lawsuit against the CSUN board of trustees cites discrimination for perceived religious views.
Armitage’s findings were eventually published in July 2013 in a peer-reviewed scientific journal.
According to court documents, shortly after the original soft tissue discovery, a CSUN official told Armitage, “We are not going to tolerate your religion in this department!”
Armitage, a published scientist of over 30 years, was subsequently let go after CSUN abruptly claimed his appointment at the university of 38 months had been temporary, and claimed a lack of funding for his position, according to attorneys.
“Terminating an employee because of their religious views is completely inappropriate and illegal,” Dacus said in a statement. “But doing so in an attempt to silence scientific speech at a public university is even more alarming. This should be a wake-up call and warning to the entire world of academia.”
Meanwhile, Schweitzer’s research has been hijacked by “young earth” creationists, who insist that dinosaur soft tissue couldn’t possibly survive millions of years. They claim her discoveries support their belief, based on their interpretation of Genesis, that the earth is only a few thousand years old. Of course, it’s not unusual for a paleontologist to differ with creationists. But when creationists misrepresent Schweitzer’s data, she takes it personally: she describes herself as “a complete and total Christian.” On a shelf in her office is a plaque bearing an Old Testament verse: “For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.”
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