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Chicago robberies drop 20% after concealed carry permits are issued

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posted on Aug, 25 2014 @ 04:58 PM
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According to Chicago Police, some interesting crime statistics changes have happened since the Illinois CCW has been in effect.

Robberies down, auto theft down.

Even the homicide rate is down !!! (but probably not much since it's sky high to begin with)

Criminals giving it a "second thought" maybe ?

*Coincidences* ??????



When’s the last time you heard any good news out of Chicago, at least as it relates to crime figures? Well, prepare yourselves for a change from the status quo. While the murder rate and gang violence are still bad – and frequently in the local news – the robbery rate has gone down recently. And the police think they might know why.



Since Illinois started granting concealed carry permits this year, the number of robberies that have led to arrests in Chicago has declined 20 percent from last year, according to police department statistics. Reports of burglary and motor vehicle theft are down 20 percent and 26 percent, respectively. In the first quarter, the city’s homicide rate was at a 56-year low.

“It isn’t any coincidence crime rates started to go down when concealed carry was permitted. Just the idea that the criminals don’t know who’s armed and who isn’t has a deterrence effect,” said Richard Pearson, executive director of the Illinois State Rifle Association. “The police department hasn’t changed a single tactic — they haven’t announced a shift in policy or of course — and yet you have these incredible numbers.”



Chicago robberies drop 20% after concealed carry permits are issued





posted on Aug, 25 2014 @ 05:08 PM
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I would like to see more of a statistical sampling over a longer period.

I also think the obscenely cold winter may have played a part as well.



posted on Aug, 25 2014 @ 05:13 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

These kinds of statistics have occurred time and time
again; also statistics that show where the toughest gun
control laws are enforced, crime coincidentally
escalates.

Rebel 5



posted on Aug, 25 2014 @ 05:14 PM
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"An armed society is a polite society."-Robert Heinlein.



posted on Aug, 25 2014 @ 05:15 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Other places around the country have had drops like that. Face it. If you were a criminal...your threat is to shoot someone for something.

Criminals NOW have had most of that threat removed, and the tables turned.

Trying to rob someone who may just be armed and will shoot THEM? Criminals now have to think twice about that little old lady going out for her mail.

She could be "packin""!



posted on Aug, 25 2014 @ 05:18 PM
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Here's an interesting site that tracks Chicago......

HeyJackass! - Illustrating Chicago Values





posted on Aug, 25 2014 @ 05:23 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen


*Coincidences* ??????


Yes it is.


edit on 25-8-2014 by HauntWok because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 25 2014 @ 05:26 PM
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originally posted by: HauntWok
a reply to: xuenchen


*Coincidences* ??????


Yes it is.



Compared to what ?




posted on Aug, 25 2014 @ 05:30 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

So no proof that more guns produce less crime, id love to see that stat, dosent exist but hey fantasy is awsome too.



posted on Aug, 25 2014 @ 05:35 PM
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According to Chicago Police, some interesting crime statistics changes have happened since the Illinois CCW has been in effect.


What! That can't be right, everyone knows "people" don't kill people.. "Guns" kill people. Empty guns, guns in the closet, guns you had as a kid. It's the guns I say! Chicago PD must be on the NRA and gun company payrolls.

OK, /sarcasm off

I hope this trend continues. Keep practicing Chicago.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus



I would like to see more of a statistical sampling over a longer period.

I also think the obscenely cold winter may have played a part as well.


Did you just suggest the same reason the Federal Reserve gave for the last bad GDP numbers?

I agree about the sampling timeline though.



posted on Aug, 25 2014 @ 05:38 PM
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originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
a reply to: xuenchen

So no proof that more guns produce less crime, id love to see that stat, dosent exist but hey fantasy is awsome too.


Excellent rebuttal !!

Proves everything out in every detail





posted on Aug, 25 2014 @ 05:40 PM
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a reply to: Bassago

I think it is a fair argument to make that if the weather is unseasonable cold that there will be less crime as people are not out as much as when it is warm.

I believe the statistics will bear this out if one were to compare crime in colder months to warmer.



posted on Aug, 25 2014 @ 05:42 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Your are oh so cute, you take 1 article and post it as proof, how do you explain that violent crimes have been going down accross the usa for the past 10 years, it has to be because chicago changed its law right.

You posted the op, not me, its on you to defend it, but you cant as usual.

Thanks for the fail, ill wait for your next one.



posted on Aug, 25 2014 @ 05:42 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Should go further imo. Train everyone that is physically capable of handling a weapon (and doesn't have a record of criminal violence) to carry a weapon. Issue them a weapon and a permit to carry it.



posted on Aug, 25 2014 @ 05:48 PM
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originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
a reply to: xuenchen

Your are oh so cute, you take 1 article and post it as proof, how do you explain that violent crimes have been going down accross the usa for the past 10 years, it has to be because chicago changed its law right.

You posted the op, not me, its on you to defend it, but you cant as usual.

Thanks for the fail, ill wait for your next one.


It's not about *More* guns.

It's about the *Fear* by petty criminals.

And that would be the "Lamb Killer" criminals that prey on easy targets.

The bigtime criminals use guns against other criminals with guns.

The bigtimers are "Deer Hunters" and usually kill "their own" for power and profit.




posted on Aug, 25 2014 @ 06:09 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

So your telling me that criminals that probably own there own guns, that use them to steal and kill, are now affraid of citizens that probably never shot at anyone.

What world do you live in, more guns make certain people feel safe criminals wont stop because grandma smityh owns a shot gun.

only criminals that might be scared are the ones who steal gum at 7/11
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posted on Aug, 25 2014 @ 06:18 PM
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a reply to: dukeofjive696969

You might have it backwards.



Maybe.



posted on Aug, 25 2014 @ 06:21 PM
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a reply to: dukeofjive696969

I would like to tell you criminals aren't that BRAVE. And MOST Americans CAN use a gun.
www.youtube.com...

MAYBE not in the coastal PROG occupied territories, but outside of larger cities it is common knowledge.
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posted on Aug, 25 2014 @ 06:24 PM
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Unseasonable cold weather does not slow down hardcore criminals.

They still have to make a living.

You might have a few less gang on gang shooting as many are staying at home.

But robberies and drug crimes will stay about normal.

Winter clothing makes it easy to hid guns for both the good guys and bad guys.

Since most gun murders in Chicago are black on black its not likely because of the new CCW laws.

robberies would be down with store owners arming themselves.



posted on Aug, 25 2014 @ 08:57 PM
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Remember this. Common sense prevailed.



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