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originally posted by: RedParrotHead
The are estimates that 9 million of Americans identify as gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender (2011) ... at an average cost of $30,600 per U.S. inmate it'll only cost us taxpayers $275 billion a year to lock them up.
originally posted by: mOjOm
originally posted by: Woodcarver
Come on mojom, follow me here. It's not a christian problem. It's a human condition. Thats like asking why muslims don't stop ISIS. You often get stuck on these labels. I personally have never met anyone who can honestly say they have kept all the commandments. It is an impossible standard set up to propagate failure so that a solution can be offered at the price of your freedom. It is like judging fish on their ability to drive a car.
What are you talking about?? I'm not saying anything about commandments or how well anyone lives up to them. I don't know where you're getting this. Don't interpret what I'm saying. Just read it. I'm not speaking in riddles or anything.
So you don't see any problem with this guy saying this???
This guy is a Christian Pastor. Who has a website named PreachingPolitics.com. He wants to imprison gay people to 10 years hard labor just for being gay. He also says that the reasoning for that is based on Christian law and ideals. Remember, he's a Christian Pastor saying this. Yet for some reason you don't want to admit that there is any connection at all to Christianity???
As if I'm somehow drawing some totally impossible link between how a Christian Pastor is advocating for the imprisonment of these people and how that is a bad image for Christians??? Really?? You don't see how there is a connection there???
How many people do you really think are going to hear this story? Then how many people do you think are going to agree what he says? and then how many kind and reasonable people are going to hear it and say "Wow thats a great idea."
I'm guessing quite a few people will hear this story. I already said I don't think a lot of people are going to agree with him, but there are some that will. Hell, there are members here that agree with him. Some have even said that it's a great idea. If you doubt that other people out there might like this idea I can provide you with proof, but it's not hard to find others who agree with this kind of thing.
originally posted by: jimmyx
Frankly, I think there should be more restrictions in the U.S. regarding religion, and the way it influences the political process. but, that's just me.
originally posted by: GeisterFahrer
The Nazis did the same thing to the Jews - conform with our views - or face the wrath of Government.
originally posted by: Woodcarver
You said he was not a good example of a christian. I am saying there are no good christians because it's an unreachable goal. Every christian has looked at someone else with lust, everyone has stolen something, everyone has told a lie, we all have doubts about gods. therefor it's not a christian problem. muslims hate, hindus hate, atheists hate. everyone has the capacity to hate. therefor it is a human problem. certainly i never gave you the impression that i agreed with this guy, so why would you ask that?
There has never been a time in history when gays were more accepted than now. He and his ilk are a dying breed. they are not a majority and you should not portray them as such. Does anyone here really have any expectation of this legislation being passed? i think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone here who thinks this has a chance of making it through to becoming law.
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: mOjOm
"The Bible's agin it! God's agin it! ..."
"The Bible's right, somebody's wrong. 'Aint no homos gonna make it heaven."
Yeah! The last 30 years have just been a peach bucket of tolerance from the religious right!