Heaven's Gate and UFO cults (part IV) : History repeats, ad infinitum...

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posted on Aug, 26 2014 @ 08:07 AM
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I attended a talk by several of the people who would soon kill themselves. There were at least four of them and may have been five, and all of them came across as very intelligent, calm, and sincere people. They said they'd lived in the forest with their leader for quite awhile, and he sent them out to invite people to join them on the spaceship.

They explained their thinking (or lack of thinking). They were convinced that everything was a holograph, and that the holograph would soon be "turned off". The only ones who would survive this event would be those who boarded a space ship. They weren't pushy, or overly concerned if any of us believed them, only that they were sent on a speaking tour by their leader to alert others, who would then have the opportunity to join them and board the ship.

From this I learned more about human nature, and how seemingly intelligent people (the one woman I focused most of my attention on had the most intelligent eyes and manner) could subvert their entire point-of-view to the theory, or nonsense, of another human being.
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posted on Aug, 26 2014 @ 08:24 AM
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a reply to: Aleister


From this I learned more about human nature, and how seemingly intelligent people (the one woman I focused most of my attention on had the most intelligent eyes and manner) could subvert their entire point-of-view to the theory, or nonsense, of another human being.

If you've an hour or so to burn, I have a video for you:
Dead Kennedys' vocalist Jello Biafra spends some time talking to members of the "Unarius Academy of Science" UFO cult. Seemingly intelligent people who completely buy into the nonsensical ravings of clearly deluded people.

Some of these guys make Scientology look mainstream, lol.

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posted on Aug, 26 2014 @ 10:49 AM
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i just don't see how that man convinced all those people to believe what he did and then even killing themselves.
you can just hear it in his voice, they way he talks, the look in his eyes, that he was dead serious about what he believed. and that just boggles me.



posted on Aug, 26 2014 @ 06:11 PM
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a reply to: ShaeTheShaman He didn't. The entire scenario was a very planned event and part of a grand experiment. There were extreme elements at play to bring about this alleged "suicide" scenario.

Quite a few of the so called cult were vegetarians, yet, on the night before the event, witnesses say they all ordered the exact same meal. steak, veggies and dessert...all the same menu...possibly some one in the restaurant was observing to see how well the mind control was working.

The pristine surroundings relevant to the bodies...those of us that work in the medical field know that death is messy...a simple and true fact. The photos of the bodies with their clean, new shoes, triangle clothes over their bodies...what was that all about...a signal to somebody. No urine stains or same dripping on the floor, no fecal material or stains...just perfect, clean white bedding. Death scenes, are just not that perfect and neat and all nice and tidy like. I don't buy it.

I can remember Applewhite looking into a video camera at one of his public appearances and stating, "They are going to kill me eventually"...the ravings of a lunatic or simply the statement of a man who knew too much. There were admittedly "odd" connections relevant to the "cult" and other factions/agencies that are hard to ignore or not question.

Everyone ate poisoned apple sauce..."they" couldn't even come up with a better one then that? Instead of, "Don't drink the kool aid" now it should be, "Don't eat the applesauce".

I can remember the prez coming out and saying all kinds of disparaging things relevant to folks that talk about ufos and aliens....making fun and snickering and such. Agenda maybe. I know a lot of folks interested in ufos after that "Gate" incident got to feeling uneasy and nervous about talking about such anymore...and they weren't suicidal either.

Just speculating. Probably nothing to it all. Will never know though, will we.



posted on Aug, 26 2014 @ 06:20 PM
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I know someone who was in the cult; fortunately, she had an audition in El Ay that week and opted out. There were no chemicals or mind control techniques. People really believed because it promised an escape from their boring, unfulfilling lives. My friend saw the possibility of an exciting life and bailed. She lived and got a small part in a movie. There was no conspiracy, just unhappiness and mental illness.



posted on Aug, 27 2014 @ 04:14 PM
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a reply to: DJW001 I "knew" certain people relevant to the "cult" too. But, whatever you say. Have a great day.





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