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originally posted by: Fl078
I have a few questions for jpcvanheijst.
1) About the red/orange glow phase, I was wondering, did you notice the green lights amongst the red and orange ones? as can be seen here:
I'm asking because it could be artefacts/abberations from the long exposure/very high ISO.
2) Did you take a picture with no long exposure, because the less exposure I see is 3 secondes?
If not why? Would it be not enough noticeable?
3) did you check the exact location when you were flying exactly above the lights?
Because the picture of the red light far away ahead could maybe match with Shishaldin Volcano, which seems active actually. This was suggested by a member (Bob Rekin) of a french forum.
Thanks in advance for your answers!
originally posted by: OpenMindedRealist
a reply to: jpcvanheijst
Thanks for answering our questions, for being a good photographer, and for having an open (but rational) mind!
Your descriptions have been so clear and thorough that I only have one question:
Most of the lights in the photos are red, orange, or white. In one of the photos, blue/purple lights can also be seen. Two of the photos show green, yellow, and red lights in a short curve.
Were all of these lights coming from below the aircraft, or are some reflected from inside the cockpit?
The green, yellow, and red lights in a curve look almost like LEDs next to a fuel guage.
originally posted by: jpcvanheijst
a reply to: OpenMindedRealist
Thanks! I can imagine and it sure became an unexpected 'hype', and all the attention quite shocked me in all honesty.
Hopefully the very negative comments will disappear quickly and the genuinely interested folks stay tuned.
We'll just see if we ever get an answer, though the fact that most of the official institutions and organizations keep quiet means to me that its either not taken serious, or that its stuff (read; military) that they dont want to confirm or give more attention then it already got.
In order to provide a visual demonstration of the light output of tritium light sources I have had a rummage around and taken some photographs of tritium vials of various size and colours along with my watch which uses standard luminous paint on the hands for comparison.
We know Tritium is being released in groundwater and storage leaks from Fukushima and could be carried along the currents where opposing currents could concentrate and whirlpool it.
The related thought is, could this radiation be creating spheres of Tritiated Water aka Super Heavy Water where currents converge, that becomes ordered in a liquid crystalline structure? Could these spheres of super heavy water then have the ordered geometry necessary to sustain chain reactions?
originally posted by: korkythecat
a reply to: gguyx
I am sure I have seen that weird globular light look before - could it be a fission event just above or below the ocean surface??
Also might explain the initial flash too.
Just a thought and thanks for bringing this to the site
4. Military fleet conducting;
Possible massive Russian navy exercise/weapon-test/salvage operation
– Close to Petropavlovsk, one of the largest Russian navy bases and home to the Pacific Nuclear submarine fleet at the Rybachy base, just South of Petropavlovsk naval base.
– Large US-navy exercises at the same day and time South of Japan and publicly announced (and failed) US weapon test with hypersonic missile out of Alaska that same day (24th of August)
– Political tension between the West and Russia could cause the Russian navy to test new weapons and organize large fleet exercises.
– Military fleets often use red lights to illuminate their ships at night
– Seize and scale of sighting is consistent with massive military operation like a weapon test or salvage operation
– Flash of light could indicate a possible weapon/rocket test
– Salvage operation could be possible because of large fleet of under-maintained nuclear submarines operating from base close by. Large scale salvage operation would be expected if a sub, armed with an array of valuable nuclear missiles, would go missing close to port.
– Location would be logical for a weapon/rocket test. Not in any fishing area or near commercial shipping lanes, deep sea, far from civilized world, close to large navy base, likely radiation from Fukushima would shield possible nuclear radiation/waste from a nuclear weapon-test in the deep sea current coming from Japan. Theories about Fukushima radiation being used/abused for hiding radiation-effects for military tests are widely spread
Problems with Military fleet conducting:
- Unannounced, large Russian exercise or weapon tests outside of Russian territory/waters are not likely
– Lights were far too bright for night illumination of military vessels, they would even blind their own personnel. Some lights were white and green, inconsistent with uniform red color for military fleet
– Airways were not closed for civilian/commercial aviation (as normal for military exercises and weapon tests)
– No NOTAMS (Notice To AirMen) in preflight briefing of airspace about possible military activities in this area, so an unannounced/secret operation would be logical if it is a military operation... but;
– if it was a secret operation, strong lights are not logical. They attract a lot of attention at night from commercial aviation
Verdict; Possible, but strange
Could be a covert military operation outside of Russian waters, but lights are too bright for ship illumination at night and are not logical to have been carried if it was secret; one would expect dimly illuminated ships to make sure personnel keep their 'night vision'. On the other hand; airspace was not closed, nor a warning was issued, so a large military exercise or test can almost certain be ruled out. Could explain the flash of light earlier. Unlikely to hear anything about anymore this if it really was a military operation."
"I did not take any shots with a shorter shuttertime since there was not enough light. I already pushed the D800 (a really good camera by the way) already far to her limit by boosting the ISO that far up. I could have used a shorter shuttertime and they would probably still be easily visible, but you have to imagine that Im sitting in that cockpit to fly the plane, not to take pictures "