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1.There are still people who believe the universe revolves around a single fixed point. I am not here speaking of the geocentric universe, but of the Self-centric universe, the “Atman and Brahman are one”, a universe that has been promulgated by popular eastern religion and western theological scholasticism into what we now call solipsism, the idea that one’s mind, one’s perception, one’s consciousness is the universe itself.
2.In the strange words of any self-professed guru who preaches these doctrines, we are all one sort of mental substance, ie. “consciousness” or “perception or “mind” or “appearance” or “awareness” (there is no shortage of terms used), and perhaps we are simply observers of this substance. In even stranger words, this “observer” is not the viewpoint offered by our physical bodies, for the body too is simply another part of this substance, but we as observers are some other unchangeable, unaltered, and basically unaffected point of reference—a nothing. Even more strangely, this nothing still uses the bathroom.
3.The goal of this doctrine is sense of “oneness”, the "no-thingness", but this is performed purely mentally and results as the repudiation of one set (their body) in favor of another (anything but their body). Oneness is more a form of idea-worship, or rather, set-worship, container-worship, category-worship, as reasoned in the following analogy:
4.In what sense are we one? No sense at all, because sense tells us the opposite. At this hurdle, the solipsist can only debase and slander the senses as distributers of illusion, but nonetheless keeps using them.
5.To the solipsist life is a dream, and experience is like a play on a screen, with flashing lights and fleeting images dancing about as play-things. These play-things, the objects of his experience, are objects of his experience and nothing independent of it. When he closes his eyes, we as objects vanish from existence. The objects of his experience arise and fall and are transient, doomed to appear and disappear. We really are nothing to him, or worse, a part of him.
6.The dissolution of the self into everything does not actually occur. What occurs is the imagining of dissolution as a meditative method, as a well-trodden line of thought. It is the imagining that one is a part of a cohesive whole, without any inclination or knowledge towards any boundary in which a whole can be contained, nor exist at all. But oddly enough, they themselves are a whole, being that they have a boundary in which themselves are contained, yet seek to dissolve the real whole in favor of an imagined one. In other words, “oneness” is something the solipsist never actually seeks, but consistently avoids.
7.The idea that we are nothings or “one” is a choice, not a realization. Choose wisely.
Prove to me that this existence is not an illusion.
That I am not the only thing I can even be partially sure exists.
Without using even widely accepted assumptions I should add.
Also, our sense do provide us a window into an illusion.
Science has proven this.
The inner knowledge (gnosis) of the I AM emotion makes it impossible to accept other Ones that Oneself. It is hard to concieve solipsism from the viewpoint of intellectual knowledge (eidein) or faith only. Introspection is the path to gnosis, not books.
However, the exercise of consciously trying to connect and become one - is what brings rise to civility, society. It's a call to harmony and balance and peace. Not that we lose our individuality, or the ability to act independently and freely from the whole - only that we not lose sight of that fact that we should honor and respect and move as one humanity - towards a higher purpose and goal.
I get all the 'isms' mixed up.
But why is it sad, and such a tragedy, if it was the default mode? Not that I think that it is, rather, I think our modes of consciousness are as varied as the stars. I can't keep track of the 'isms' for there are so many to contemplate! However, lets pretend for a moment, that the majority of humanity does feel they are 'God' in their self-centric bubble universes. How does this internal rationalizing of the external - detract from the value of their life or another?
The realization of the I AM is the most beautiful happening in the creation - and the most terrible. The I AM is awakened within the self, and the Mind realizes it though knowledge (gnosis). As long as there is time there is always the potential for creation. Nothing is created beyond time, that is true, but I am talking about the material universe. Beyond time everything is in a content state of IS.
originally posted by: Aphorism
a reply to: AnuTyr
But we are no less detached from the Universe. We are made of the same elements that the universe is made of, We live in the universe and we are made of the universe.
"We are made of the universe."
This is over simplifying things a tad bit.
Why would I if you have not proven it is an illusion?
Go kick a large stone really hard while imagining the stone doesn't exist.
"Science has proven this" is very vague. I think its time for another go-to phrase.
What illusion are you speaking of?
originally posted by: Aphorism
Except it isn’t a realization. It is a choice and a matter of tastes. One can believe it or not with no consequence. The “I AM” is simply a phrase, made uppercase perhaps for emphasis or to make it appear more important than it is.