a reply to: seabhac-rua
I agree with this assessment, and posted as much in a message that was placed in skunk works claiming it was faked.
I agree that the stills of the corpse prove it was staged, but, he is indeed deceased. The final still proves this fact, along with the way they fade
out during the filming.
I disagree with their overall assessment, simply because I saw several stills that were grabs taken immediately prior to the fade, and you can clearly
see Mr. Foleys' response of shock and surprise, along with the fact there was blood.
You are welcome to read my post in the skunkworks forum. I explained why, from a medical standpoint, that blood would not be immediately, profoundly
visible, before they fade.
I critiqued the entire video, but came to the exact conclusion, and explained in great detail, why.
Head over and check out my post, if you like. It gives a far more in depth explanation of why, and what the desired and intended outcomes were.
I disagree that the video is being censored because of this. I do agree that it is being censored in an effort to not give ISIS the attention they
apparently crave. In starving them for attention, by shutting down their twitter and Facebook accounts, it somewhat curbs their ability to recruit.
One of the things I failed to mention was the fact that showing too much to possible Western recruits may actually be a turn off, and affect their
ability to recruit. By sanitizing the act, it makes it seem less horrific. Isis, itself, even recognizes the horror behind their activities, and
trains people to think it's "fun", or how to detach themselves, mentally.
This information can be found online, so no, I am not making things up. I just am prohibited from linking to those sites, due to graphic images. If
anyone truly wants to know more, it can be researched.
This has actually been discussed in reaching the decision on whether or not to censor the images.
The exact same discussion took place in the aftermath of the Pearl video, but the general consensus at the time was that peole should see it, and
should understand the raw, unfettered horror that is extremist terror. The public needed to understand what we were up against.
We have been psychologically abused by inumerable images coming from so many locations, Syria, Iraq, Egypt, it was said we have seen enough. We know
what a beheading is, and now, instead of showing it anymore, we need to cut off the media circus and not give them the exposure.
Frankly, I have never stood for censorship of any kind. I think if people want to see it, they will find a way. Indeed, the video is still widely
available, for those who wish to seek it out.
I do agree, however, that just as when you are on ATS, you agree to behave in a certain manner. Same argument, different sites. These various sites
just got together, and after multiple meetings, heated arguments, and a lot of discussing, decided that giving ISIS a mouthpiece any longer was a bad
idea, so, they cut the cord.
As I stated, they did not, and cannot, totally eradicate their internet, but, they can put a crimp in their style.
This, this was fine by me. Especially after the beheading, they posted celebratory and congratulatory tweets, images, and general atta boys, welcoming
this beast among the most exclusive, publically. They taunted the US, and made fun of it's citizens, that we would attack a country for whatever
reason, but could not protect ONE of our own. Sadly, it goes much deeper than that, but most people will never do the research, and know more, and
This was something that needed to be done, IMO, because the people that would do this only for attention, fame, or a name for themselves, would be
drawn to this type of thing, and perhaps we would, and still may, start seeing copycats.
However, the backstory is much deeper. ISIS, is in fact, kidnapping dozens and dozens of journalists in particular, and demanding ransoms. France,
alone, has paid millions for the return of their journalists. The US, however, seems to want to claim they do not negotiate with terrorists, and
refused to pay the ransom. The end result, sadly, was the death of Mr. Foley. Many people have taken an afront with this, particularly after the
release of the Gitmo 5. It is believed by many of the top names in our government, past and present, that Obama likeky paid upwards of 5 million
dollars cash, along with the Gitmo 5 release.
As has been pointed out, this kadnap/ransom process is largely how ISIS seems to be funding their operations, to begin with.
Regardless of how you feel about the situation in general, it must be agreed on that limiting their exposure, and hence, their ability to recruit, is
a good thing.
As with any site online, your right to free speech ends when you digitally sign that user agreement and log on and continue to use the site.
Simply, if you don't like the way someone decorates their house, you don't go over and start telling them what wallpaper you think they should
edit on 25-8-2014 by Libertygal because: (no reason given)