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posted on Dec, 5 2004 @ 06:04 PM
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Reading this article has me puzzled. Why would Al Qaeda attack Europe? Half of Europe has basically abandoned the US in the hopes that they would not be a target. This confuses me and I do not think that it is true considering what Bin Ladin himself has said. He said the US is the target.

Odd indeed.

Al Qaeda's next target


WASHINGTON Europe seems increasingly likely to be the target of the next major Qaeda attack, a trend that could intensify when scores of Qaeda-affiliated militants who left European countries to fight in Iraq return home, several top terror analysts said.
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Europe is vulnerable in ways that the United States is not, said many of those attending what was described as the largest conference ever on Al Qaeda, the group behind the Sept. 11 attacks.
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Europe's large, growing and poorly integrated Muslim population, its prisons and fundamentalist mosques where extremism is nurtured and laws that constrain the European police more than their American counterparts are all factors, said the analysts, who included former CIA counterterror officials and foreign terror specialists


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posted on Dec, 5 2004 @ 06:29 PM
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From your same link:

quote: "... said that they did not expect new attacks to match the breadth of the Sept. 11 attacks, in large part because of improved security. Instead, they expect more operations resembling the coordinated March 11 bombings in Madrid, which killed 191 people."

We have (had) the IRA (PIRA), ETA, RAF, PKK, RMS etc. already for decades. And the French have already been fighting Muslim terrorism long before 9/11 -see Paris bombings. Also thousands of potential terrorists have already been caught and hundreds of cells eliminated after 9/11.

Hundreds of Europeans have been trained in Iraq into potential terrorists after the US invasion and have returned "home". It's logical to assume that if hundreds of Europans have been trainded there, that thousands of potential terrorists from around the world have also been trained in Iraq after Bush's declaration that major hositilies are over, and they too have returned "home", waiting for revenge on especially the USA.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Next time if you are going to invade an "hotbed" for terrorism again, please make sure that you can pacify that country, or else we all have to deal with an increasing terrorist threat. Thank you,

Blobber



posted on Dec, 5 2004 @ 07:14 PM
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Half of Europe has basically abandoned the US in the hopes that they would not be a target


I wouldn't say they abandoned the US for that reason. More like they saw through Bush's lies and didn't want to kiss his ass.



posted on Dec, 5 2004 @ 07:26 PM
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I'd have to say that Europe will the next target for recruiting terrorists to carry out attacks on American interests abroad. The Europeans seem like the prime candidates for siding with their cause since their hatred for us is mutual!

Anyhow, Al Qaeda wants to attack countries that will put up a fight.



posted on Dec, 5 2004 @ 07:31 PM
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Edsinger,

FYI, Europeans still support the war in Afghanistan: 35 Nato countries are there , even 2000 French forces and 1500 German forces under ISAF.

But, only a small minority of the European population supports the war in Iraq as the majority sees no reason to justify the war. Even countries such as the UK and the Netherlands who always have been following the US, have now a great majority in the population who are against the war in Iraq.

Blobber

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posted on Dec, 5 2004 @ 08:17 PM
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Originally posted by Intelearthling
I'd have to say that Europe will the next target for recruiting terrorists to carry out attacks on American interests abroad. The Europeans seem like the prime candidates for siding with their cause since their hatred for us is mutual!

Anyhow, Al Qaeda wants to attack countries that will put up a fight.


We europeans dont hate a americans, we just hate your ignorance see what your corrupted government is doing, and that is bringing WW3.
You should get your head out from that dark smelly cave and let your eyes get used to the sunlight.

There is no al queda that is a threat,if something big happens in the us and/or europe it will be your corrupt government.Yeah blame it on the muslim terrorists.Plan is to declare martial law and creating a fine tuned militairy machine and flex their muscles to the rest of the world.Goal is establishing a sort of american 'third reich`

And you might be thinking:"we are are going to woop some ass,yeah we americans are gonna rule''
Well snap out of it because for the average joe life is gonna suck.(understatement of the year!) and if your life already sucks well....welcome 2 hell boy.





posted on Dec, 5 2004 @ 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by motionknight

There is no AL queda that is a threat,if something big happens in the us and/or Europe it will be your corrupt government.Yeah blame it on the Muslim terrorists.Plan is to declare martial law and creating a fine tuned military machine and flex their muscles to the rest of the world.Goal is establishing a sort of American 'third Reich`


That right there tells me all I need to know, you buy that bullcrap and the Michael Moore stuff, I have heard it before, and it is a farce. Even your governments know the threats, most just don't want to fight it.

It is called capitulation and what Spain did was a good example of it..

Hate America all you want, lie and whatever....you are in denial.



posted on Dec, 5 2004 @ 09:38 PM
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Originally posted by edsinger
It is called capitulation and what Spain did was a good example of it..


Actually ED, what Spain did is called democracy -you know that system which your country wholeheartedly propagate?. The large majority of the Spaniards never have supported a war in Iraq. Or do you now imply that democray is capitulation? Are you a fascist ED?

Blobber

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posted on Dec, 5 2004 @ 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by Blobber
Actually ED, what Spain did is called democracy -you know that system which your country wholeheartedly propagate?. The large majority of the Spaniards never supported a war in Iraq. Or do you now imply that democray is capitulation? Are you a fascist ED?Blobber


No actually is was called capitulation, the Madrid attacks made the people so scared that they wanted the socialists in, and not the US ally, they wanted to distance themselves from the united states and thats what they did, democratically yes but the results are the same.....



posted on Dec, 5 2004 @ 09:48 PM
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That doesn't make any sense...

Europe hasn't been attacking Iraq non-stop or anything like what America is doing to Iraq and the Middle-East right now, so why would Al Qaeda attack Europe? Odd.



posted on Dec, 5 2004 @ 09:48 PM
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Europeans are not scared of the allah worshipers. They can spimply deport all muslims from europe in split second if the need arises. Muslims are already treading on thin ice as it is with thier terrorist mentality. Another bomb goes off and their all going to be deported and will most likely be the most depised religon and race on earth.

If there is going to be a terrorist attack in europe. it's going to be funded by the bush administration then blamed on muslim radical's as mean's to get europe on side of the american government as mean's to create a large army in order create a New World Order, the invasion of middle east, china and then north korea.



posted on Dec, 5 2004 @ 09:52 PM
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Originally posted by Blobber

Originally posted by edsinger
It is called capitulation and what Spain did was a good example of it..


Actually ED, what Spain did is called democracy -you know that system which your country wholeheartedly propagate?. The large majority of the Spaniards never have supported a war in Iraq. Or do you now imply that democray is capitulation? Are you a fascist ED?

Blobber

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It's only a democracy on voting day and dicatorship on the rest of the days.



posted on Dec, 5 2004 @ 09:56 PM
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The only reason I see them attacking Euorpe is for One, to Put it on the US.
No before you all start flaming me let me Explain
, Im not saying they blame the US for doing an actual attack, but in their eyes (terrorists) they may feel these countries may blame it on the US led attack in Iraq in order to try to turn those Nations Really against us. Terrorism has always existed, but not on the scale that it is being looked at today. Some people believe that since we went into Iraq, Terrorist attacks have occured more often, and at a greater rate, than before. This includes all the Be-headings and Attacks in Iraq that are seen as "Terrorism". I do not have statistics on this, so I really do not know how "True" this may be. If attacks were to occur in France and Germany, for instance, even though they are against the Iraq War (for the most part), it may be seen as a direct result of US Presence in Iraq which could lead to Actions against us.

Two, The vacinity seems to be easier to carry out such attacks, rather than having to "Travel" half way across the world.

Three, just trying to pin everyone against each other.

Just throwing out my opinion.



posted on Dec, 5 2004 @ 10:03 PM
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Originally posted by Thinker

If there is going to be a terrorist attack in europe. it's going to be funded by the bush administration then blamed on muslim radical's as mean's to get europe on side of the american government as mean's to create a large army in order create a New World Order, the invasion of middle east, china and then north korea.



Here we go, exactly as I would have predicted, blame it on Bush...


need I say more? So now you think the united States will attack Europe? Then blame it on Al qaeda?



posted on Dec, 5 2004 @ 10:03 PM
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I believe the Bush administration is already planning the second sep11 for america and also planning a sept 11 for europe.

1. Declare marshall law, get all the power bypassed to him.
2. Get allies from europe, from his plan to terrorizie europe then blame the allah worshipers, because of their terrorist mentality.
3. Make war with middleast, then china, north korea.
4. Microchip the world expect israel
5. Invade israel the messiah comes and destroys the armies of europe and america.

It's world war 2 repeated pretty much,

Hilter burned the government building
Bush blew up the pentagon.

America allowed japan to attack pearl harbour in order to enter the war.
America allowed the jihadist to attack the two towers in order shift american forces into the middleast.

[edit on 5-12-2004 by Thinker]



posted on Dec, 5 2004 @ 10:35 PM
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Originally posted by edsinger
No actually is was called capitulation, the Madrid attacks made the people so scared that they wanted the socialists in, and not the US ally, they wanted to distance themselves from the united states and thats what they did, democratically yes but the results are the same.....

Let me just give you a poll which was conducted in 2003, more than a year before the Madrid bombing:
"... A poll published by El Mundo on Sunday showed the Socialist opposition would win 40.2 percent of the vote in a general election now,
versus 38.5 percent for Aznar's centre-right Popular Party (PP) and down from nearly 44 percent backing for the PP this time last year."
www.swissinfo.org...

Also polls before the Madrid bombings stated it will be a very tight race.

Edit: sure the bombings must have influenced the election to a degree, but was it really a decisive turn around?

Blobber



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posted on Dec, 5 2004 @ 10:59 PM
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Originally posted by AeroQuake
That doesn't make any sense...

Europe hasn't been attacking Iraq non-stop or anything like what America is doing to Iraq and the Middle-East right now, so why would Al Qaeda attack Europe? Odd.


Europe had already been attacked by Muslim Extremists, long before 9/11:
seattletimes.nwsource.com...

In 1982 there was a grenade attack on Jews.
In 1994 GIA wanted to plunge an airplaine into Paris, probably into the Eiffel Tower.

Blobber


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posted on Dec, 5 2004 @ 11:05 PM
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IF....

Bin Laden's video has any meaning, I hate to think that "states" that
support the policy against Islam will surely include the U.K.

I hope not, but there have already been attempts and my gut feelings
tell me it's most logical.



posted on Dec, 6 2004 @ 03:10 AM
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I think we gonna see some attacks in Europe but I would expect people in the United Kingdom should be more worried than say people in Danmark, because of the pro-active stance of the UK government.

Also on the hitlist for large "punishment" attack could be Italy for Berslusconi has been active supporter.

Bombings like in Spain at election time revealed the failure of the government to deal with terrorism and highlighted the fact that really the majority of the people (rightwing/leftwing/inbetween) did not support war in iraq. UK and Italy could be the same.....

Also I would expect attacks throughout whole Europe on USA owned companies/factories, especially oil companies/pipelines, since oil has become such a critical factor in greopolitics


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posted on Dec, 6 2004 @ 05:30 AM
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Originally posted by Blobber
We have (had) the IRA (PIRA), ETA, RAF, PKK, RMS etc. already for decades. And the French have already been fighting Muslim terrorism long before 9/11 -see Paris bombings. Also thousands of potential terrorists have already been caught and hundreds of cells eliminated after 9/11.


Yep we Europeans have been dealing with this for waaaay longer than the US.

A small hint: get out of Saudi Arabia and Bin-Ladin might leave you alone.

After wondering where Al-Queada will strike next... what poor defenceless country will the US terrorize next?



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