originally posted by: demus
originally posted by: Gozer
a reply to: demus
Your ignorance of Mohammed and the Koran are duly noted.
are you a Muslim?
have you read a Qur'an?
I'm not a Muslim, nor anything else but I have read the Qur'an. And the Bible and a whole bunch of other religious books.
All of them are evil, bloodthirsty books of hate in my opinion and all are very contradictory throughout and they all call for killing/extermination
in the name of god.
It isn't just the Quran, it's all books of religious belief. However, Mohammed seems to be the one who calls for non-Muslims to convert or die, so man
times in one way or another throughout the Quran.
Quran (2:191-193) , Quran (2:244), Quran (2:216), Quran (3:56), Quran (3:151), Quran (4:74), Quran (4:76), Quran (4:89), Quran (4:95), Quran (4:104),
Quran (5:33), Quran (8:12), Quran (8:15), Quran (8:39), Quran (8:57), Quran (8:59-60), Quran (8:65), Quran (9:5), Quran (9:14), Quran (9:20), Quran
(9:29), Quran (9:30), Quran (9:38-39), Quran (9:41), Quran (9:73), Quran (9:88), Quran (9:111), Quran (9:123), Quran (17:16), Quran (17:16), Quran
All of the above quotes in the Qur'an encourage violence against non-Muslims and account for only about 5% of the total quotes in the book that incite
the killing of those who refuse to submit to Islam.
These are in chronological order too and look how close they're together within the versus/passages of this book. It goes on very regularly from there
(21:44), right through to the end.
Gozer is quite correct. Any Muslim who denounces what ISIS is doing, is not actually a Muslim, for he cannot claim to be a true Muslim if he dose not
follow his prophet with complete submission to his (Mohammed's), will.
As I stated earlier however, I have to give credit where credit is due. There are Muslims out there who have denounced the actions of ISIS as
deplorable. They call themselves (or rather everyone else calls them) Moderate Muslims. They are not followers of Mohammed's true teachings if they
are to ignore his calls for the death, rape and torture of those who refuse Allah.
This in my opinion makes them good people who do know how to cherish the value of human life and are a shining example that there is hope out there
for a peaceful co-existence. The Kurds, the subject of the OP and many others who are actively rejecting ISIS and the true ways of Mohammed for their
own "peaceful-ish", version of the religion.
Having said that... These people are in just as much danger from ISIS and other extremists groups as the rest of us. ISIS will view them as Kaffir
along with the rest of us (those whom befriend the Kaffir or help them, will share their fate), witch they probably already know and this is all the
more reason to admire them..!!
edit on 26-8-2014 by Ironclad2000 because: (no reason given)