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posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 07:56 AM
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More and more and [ sigh ] more, I see Atheist groups claiming someone is offending them by showing any sign of Faith. Just on the news this morning, I saw that a group is complaining of discrimination by a business giving %10 off pizza, if you bring in a church bulletin on Sunday. What?! I just don't get it. Why do people have to be such asshats that they can't leave others in peace? Why the sudden explosion of Atheists? Or at least the loud whining of "That Offends Me!" if someone dares utter a word that may sound like they're pro religion?
The kicker is, I'm an Atheist....well, atheist/agnostic. I don't believe in God and don't think there is anything that will change my mind.....but I could be wrong. Show me irrefutable evidence and I'll be the first to admit it. Till then.... Oh, and Please, don't try to convert me, show me the Bible as rock solid proof [ it's just a book ] or preach at me to "open my heart to Jesus" or any other attempt to bring God in to my life. I don't want to hear about how dark my life is without Him or how my soul is going to burn in hell for eternity. It's mine, let Me worry about it. Save it for Sunday. It's not what I'm here for. I'm her to ask a rabid Atheist, if we have any, what's goin' on? Why the constant, aggressive attack on anything religious? Explain to me how a cross or any other religious symbol, shown in public, offends you or violates your rights. I mean, I'm an Atheist and I don't cringe, hiss and throw my cloak over my face every time I see a cross or Bible verse posted outside the churches. I don't feel offended by anyone's show of Faith, it's Their Life, let them lead it how they want.
Believe it or not, my wife believes in God and we get along fine. Mostly. And when we do argue, it's Never been about religion. My son asked me the other day if I expected him to not believe or go to church. I said "No, you do what you want, don't let my opinion influence yours" I explained to him that I want my kids to make up their own minds. About everything, not just about this. I know my opinion will have some impact, but I'm honestly hoping they will ignore me on some things and decide for themselves. So should you. You bitch and complain that religion is being forced on you, being stuck in your face, when you're doing the same thing. YOU don't believe, so you're going to whine, holler and sue till every single sign, cross or verse is hidden like a porn mag under a teenagers mattress. Take a peek in private, but don't get caught! Hide your shame!
We're well on our way to being a version of Cold War Russia, we don't need religious persecution to help us along.




posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 08:03 AM
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There are those whom believe in the invisible man in the sky who have access to the means to begin the wars of mutually assured destruction. Those people believe this life doesn't matter much, that they will be forgiven of all trespass simply by asking forgivness of this invisible man in the sky.

All will be forgiven in the magical sky land, so why should it matter what happens here?

That's why religion needs to be stamped down.

Now, I'm going to say "thank you" when any religious folk offer me a blessing, I'm not going to hate you if you're religious. I will, however, think you're sorely misguided.

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posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 08:22 AM
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Its not about being offended by a show of faith, it's about the objection to discrimination based on faith (or the lack of it) that has meant that Christians (or any other religious group) now play the victims whenever it's pointed out.

.....and you seem to agree with their victim mentality.



posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 08:23 AM
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i always wondered what an athiest thinks about when humans create life like such as in a lab. Or when we will teraform planets.

Have you researched much into synthetic biology?

If humans can create life, What does that mean for our own uncertain origins?
I'm sure it's easy to argue with people who view life metaphysically.

But in reality, Creationism defines all. Living organic, Ideas concepts, And the mere fact blending results in predetermined outcomes. Like hydrogen and oxygen making water.

Now i'm not saying that the universe is consiously observing our every move. That's overextimating consiousness.
Consiousness blooms locally, Which means the universe only expressed *life* at different stages in different places made of different substances


I don't need a bible. But anyone who reads the bible knows that the old religion will be tossed for a religion of truth.
I can't speak on their behalf because i don't associate myself with that lump. Being an E.T witness has its effects on a person.

But besides all that, Evolution is real. For sure 100%. Just its not a determining factor in origins of all life because life can be seeded. Where Intelligent design becomes the origin, Of cour evolution is used as tools as well and occures without I.D (Intelligent design)

But as for the anti- religious Athiests LOL.
Science unfortunately will be holding the truth hand in hand. Not sure about religious scriptures, But the idea of the soul and spirituality/morality wisdom and consiquences. there's not much Athiests can do, With the push for quantum theories. The idea of the non spiritual person is slowly being pushed out of a society seeking answers in a world with increasing violence and melecholy.



posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 08:27 AM
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a reply to: AnuTyr

Care to give a definitive definition for 'spirituality'?

Because I'm fairly sure that every single ATS member that has ever existed and will ever exist, will have a different definition for that word.....



posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 08:27 AM
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a reply to: DAVID64

I could talk about my hate for Italics, but I don't want to offend any Italians.

The thing is that atheists and theists have more in common than they'd like to admit-both are stubborn, dismissive folk who would rather eat carpet than to entertain the idea that the other side might have a valid point. Atheists could learn a thing or two about the values that the bible teaches, and the devotees could learn a thing or two about scientific process.



posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 08:29 AM
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originally posted by: Thecakeisalie
a reply to: DAVID64

I could talk about my hate for Italics, but I don't want to offend any Italians.

The thing is that atheists and theists have more in common than they'd like to admit-both are stubborn, dismissive folk who would rather eat carpet than to entertain the idea that the other side might have a valid point. Atheists could learn a thing or two about the values that the bible teaches, and the devotees could learn a thing or two about scientific process.


You're either one or the other.......as atheists are merely people that aren't theists.....

Now you can get down off your horse.



posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 08:49 AM
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You're either one or the other.......as atheists are merely people that aren't theists.....

a reply to: Prezbo369

As much as I'd like to go back in time where people deal in absolutes as you do, I can't.



Now you can get down off your horse.


And what is the name of your thoroughbred?



posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 08:57 AM
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originally posted by: Thecakeisalie
As much as I'd like to go back in time where people deal in absolutes as you do, I can't.


Do you believe in a god?

If the answer is 'Yes' you're a theist.

If the answer is anything else (including 'I don't know') then you're atheist (without the belief in a god).



And what is the name of your thoroughbred?



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posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 09:05 AM
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a reply to: DAVID64

I agree, though I am a believer.

"It's not fair!" Cries the atheist!

I wonder if atheists really want an equal playing field. No bias towards race, religion, gender, sexual preference.


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posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 09:08 AM
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a reply to: Prezbo369

You do come across as stubborn and dismissive and as someone who would rather eat carpet than entertain the idea that anyone but yourself might have a valid point. You just played right into the posters hand on that one. That is priceless



posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 09:11 AM
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a reply to: DAVID64

Well said, it almost seems like some people are jealous in that others have acquired faith and a peace of mind.

But then again hatters just got to hate sometimes, and take it out on everyone around them.

By the way, I don't believe in Gods and Devils, but I sure don't have a problem if there is something that makes SOME people better and more caring, not in a world full of hate and division and only getting worse.



posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 09:26 AM
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The reason this discount for Christians is becoming an issue is because it's discrimination. Christian = discount, while everyone else pays full price. Can you imagine if this were going on with race? What if Chinese restaurants offered discounts to Chinese and no one else?

But, but, but... I'm being persecuted!

I think I've said this a thousand times by now. A lot of people really need to understand the difference between personal private property (your home) and owning a public business (still private property but with conditions). Learn about Public Accommodation and what business owners agree to with their town, city, state when they open a business.



posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 09:28 AM
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a reply to: Kali74

Interesting to see that you aren't for affirmative action.



posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 09:29 AM
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originally posted by: Fargoth
a reply to: Prezbo369

You do come across as stubborn and dismissive and as someone who would rather eat carpet than entertain the idea that anyone but yourself might have a valid point. You just played right into the posters hand on that one. That is priceless


If you have a valid point, then by all means make it....because I don't think you actually read the OP...



posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 09:34 AM
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originally posted by: Battleline
By the way, I don't believe in Gods and Devils, but I sure don't have a problem if there is something that makes SOME people better and more caring, not in a world full of hate and division and only getting worse.


You don't need religion to be a caring person....but you do need it to stone people to death, suicide bomb town centers or decapitate non believers.

Religion is the most divisive force/concept the world has ever known.



posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 09:35 AM
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a reply to: Prezbo369

Obviously your idea of subtlety is different to mine. If you didn't get the thouroughbred joke then it went over your head, not mine.



posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 09:37 AM
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originally posted by: Prezbo369
Its not about being offended by a show of faith, it's about the objection to discrimination based on faith (or the lack of it) that has meant that Christians (or any other religious group) now play the victims whenever it's pointed out.

.....and you seem to agree with their victim mentality.




Absolutely.



posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 09:42 AM
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If somebody (including myself) wants to believe in the invisible man in the sky.

Why should anyone care ?

To me Religion's are like Amway. The product is great.

It's the salesmen that are all screwed up.

To fight over what can only be known after death. Is a monumental waste of time.



posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 09:45 AM
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a reply to: Thecakeisalie

Everything goes over this ones head



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