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originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: [post=18392789]macman[/post
First Sergeant in the Navy? Are you serious?
My command had a vendetta against DUIs so they put my head on the chopping block. Their loss more than mine. I have many shipmates and friends who have DUIs and other arrests without finding themselves in my kind situation. Truly the luck of the draw.
The United States Navy had poor leadership when I was in. I regret not joining the Marine Corps.
Keep playing the blame game!
Someone answer please this question:
What does promote the General Welfare mean to you?
originally posted by: macman
originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: macman
First Sergeant in the Navy? Are you serious?
My command had a vendetta against DUIs so they put my head on the chopping block. Their loss more than mine. I have many shipmates and friends who have DUIs and other arrests without finding themselves in my kind situation. Truly the luck of the draw.
The United States Navy had poor leadership when I was in. I regret not joining the Marine Corps.
So, let's recap this life based chain of events.
YOU chose to join the Navy.
YOU chose to drink.
YOU chose to drive.
YOU got caught.
YOU were bounced out due to YOUR choices.
YOU are now okay with being poor, because YOU are happy.
YOU are fine with living off of others.
That about sums it up.
originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: macman
Still dodging that question I see.
I have long paid for my crimes and it is unfair that I am stuck working for slave wages.
If I did not love my homeland I could simply go sell some information to the Ruskies....
I want this country to improve, obviously the USA needs to be righted. Some would argue we need a a full blown mutiny to get her on a true course again.
originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: macman
You know nothing about the Marine Corps.
Work hard, play hard is the kind of people I click with. The Marine Corps also looks after their own, even when they get in trouble. I can't say the same about FRCSE based out of NAS JAX.
In my COM/NAV work center most sat around and played computer games/surfed the web/played grab ass while at work, then take leave when the new WoW type of video games would come out so they could sit at home and play the game for days at a time. Not the kind of people I like to be around on a daily basis.
It did piss me off that I was one of the few would troubleshoot avionics on a daily basis and was actually productive in my work center, but got unfavorable evals and then a less than honorable discharge. I scored in the 99th percentile on 2 of the 3 advancement exams I took.
Like I said, the Navy's loss. I am better off and much happier with out them. I do not want to collect food stamps, but seeing that I am not employable by most peoples standards, I do not have much of an option.
Again I will ask:
What does promote the General Welfare mean to you?
originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: macman
That is not what happen. I passed their 28 day program. Please do not make assumptions based on scanty evidence. It really makes you look ignorant.
I enlisted with a squeaky clean record and left with an arrest record, 'Alcohol Rehab Failure' on my DD-214 and a General Discharge which means no GI Bill.
It did piss me off that I was one of the few would troubleshoot avionics on a daily basis and was actually productive in my work center, but got unfavorable evals and then a less than honorable discharge. I scored in the 99th percentile on 2 of the 3 advancement exams I took.
originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: jrod
First Sergeant is not an official rank of the Air Force, you have Tech Sergeants, Master Sergeants, Senior Master, and Chief Master. Apparently First Sergeant is a title given to a high ranking Admin NCO. I did not know that until just now, however I knew damn well that you guys are called Airman. I was an Airman in the Navy(twice).
Chair Force. You do not know the meaning of hard work, I should have known based on your arrogance.
I joined the Navy because I love the ocean, the Air Force would have loved to have me given my eligibility for a security clearance and ASVAB scores.
originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: macman
I do not make assumptions based on scanty evidence. I make logical deductions.
You have proven yourself ignorant of military ranks AND the US Constitution.
I am done trying to have an intelligent discussion with you.
FYI, Airman is an official rank of the US Navy. I was an ATAN twice.
Keep up with the personal attacks while avoiding a simple question.
What does Promote the General Welfare mean to you?
originally posted by: guitarplayer
a reply to: Aazadan
If we truly had a transparent government like Jefferson wanted very little federal power over the states. We would be able to see where all of our tax dollars goes. But this will never happen with the Hamiltonian federal government that Lincoln enacted during the civil war. Which was only made bigger by FDR.
originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: NavyDoc
I did not loose my clearance because of my DUI, it does not work like that. I paid my fines and that is all that matters. I no longer have a clearance now because of bad credit which is often more important for a Security clearance than being arrested.
Navy Seals and EOD all require a Top Secret. If they were to loose there clearance over a DUI, then we would have no Special OPs.
Amazing that a 'washout' like me knows much more about the military rank structure, security clearances, ect.. than you guys.edit on 10-9-2014 by jrod because: George W. Bush was arrested for a DUI and coc aine possestion, Dick Cheney has several DUIs, but go ahead and label me a loser
originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: NavyDoc
Get a life dude. I busted my ass for the Navy and they screwed me over. I have every right to be pissed. Are you even in the freaking Navy?
Every enlisted sailor goes by their rate followed by rank. ATAN....AT being an aviation electronics technician, AN being the rank of airman(E-3). Most of my time I was an AT3(AT, Petty Officer 3rd Class)
I passed my E-5 exam after being in for 2.5 years, had I not got my DUI I would have been an AT2. Instead I got busted down to E-3. I played the alcohol rehab game for a few months before I could not take the BS, they expected me to go to 3 AA meetings a week and feel sorry for myself and admit that I have some bogus incurable disease.
I am a free thinker and a free soul, I could not take the BS anymore and was extremely depressed and told my OIC I wanted out, 2 weeks later I signed my walking papers. Had I known my DD-214 was going to say Alcohol Rehab failure I would have done things differently to get discharged, like fighting because that would not look so bad on my DD-214.
Keep it up guys, keep trying to paint me as a blacksheep when I am more patriotic and a much finer warrior than you brainwashed fools will ever be.
I am a free thinker and a free soul
originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: NavyDoc
I have friends in the SPEC OPS side, if you have friends in that community then we may a common friend or acquaintance. I know a lot more than most, not so much from my experience as an AT. Amazing that you apparently know so little about Navy enlisted ranks/rate which was apparent after I posted I was an ATAN twice.
I am really good at researching things on my own and finding out information. Do not under estimate me.
originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: NavyDoc
Financial irresponsibility?
I have been on Food Stamps for about 4 years, I am broke with no income to pay bills. It also means no income to keep a Driver's License.
That is why I have bad credit.
originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: NavyDoc
You are being a jerk here. Making an issue over a minor detail that was likely a minor typo. Remember I scored in the 99th percentile on two of my advancement exams, I know my general military knowledge. That was over 5 years ago and according to the Navy I am an addict so maybe that mistake was induced my my feeble alcohol brain.
For the record, I rarely drink and not what any sane person would call an alcoholic.