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originally posted by: Scrutinizing
a reply to: snoopy11
The error you make is not realizing the Quran teaches evils you will find nowhere in Christianity, those who have sinned, calling themselves Christian, are disobedient to the teachings of the Lord Jesus. There is no murder, theft, rape, pedophilia, any sin, commanded by Christianity in the Bible, rather all things opposite. The evils of ISIS are in their book, are fundamental to a religion of lies and violent oppression. Islam being "the religion of peace" a grotesque lie they only want you to believe, until they can take you down. You need to learn of the Medina verses of the Quran. You need to study this, before commenting on religions being the same: they are worlds different, and, in ISIS, you're seeing the true agenda of Islam at work, and they'd take your head if they could, make no mistake. The goal is the entire world under Sharia law by the force of violence and terror. Yes, terrorism is taught, commanded as a tool in the Quran. Wake up.
Are Muslims permitted to lie?
Muslim scholars teach that Muslims should generally be truthful to each other, unless the purpose of lying is to "smooth over differences."
There are two forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, taqiyya and kitman. These circumstances are typically those that advance the cause Islam - in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them.
Qur'an (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie.
Qur'an (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves."
Qur'an (9:3) - "...Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters..." The dissolution of oaths with the pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway.
Qur'an (40:28) - A man is introduced as a believer, but one who must "hide his faith" among those who are not believers.
Qur'an (2:225) - "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts" The context of this remark is marriage, which explains why Sharia allows spouses to lie to each other for the greater good.
Qur'an (66:2) - "Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths"
Qur'an (3:54) - "And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers." The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which literally means 'deceit'. If Allah is supremely deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same. (See also 8:30 and 10:21)
Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be "compelled" to deceive others for a greater purpose.
originally posted by: CallYourBluff
So they swore allegiance to Al Qaeda who are funded by the USA and we can't blame the USA for funding ISIS?
posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 01:10 AM
Mon Aug 25, 2014 6:38 am » by *WillEase*
originally posted by: TritonTaranis
originally posted by: jedi_hamster
originally posted by: daaskapital
I see so much bull# on ATS [cut]
[...] before swearing its allegiance to Al Qaeda [...]
and we all know who created al qaeda.
but lemme guess, you believe in the official bin laden story, right?
it doesn't surprise me though, when you're using wikipedia as a source to cure BS with BS.
the truth is probably somewhere in the middle, pretty far from your version of the story.
So the US created Al Qaeda now? Facepalm
All because they used to affiliate with the Mujahidin whom the US backed against Russia?
One thing you don't seem to understand is the the West would fund anything that flys in the face of Russia and Russia does the same in return... something that's continued since the end of WWII and should be fairly obvious to anybody with a brain
I believe the words that speak of Jesus sonship were added for one of two reasons.
It could be the Catholics who wanted to ensure the Muslims didn't put the puzzle together.
But it's more likely that they were added by a zealous Muslim, who wished to further separate the Muslim faith from the Catholics.