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Obama Steals Cookie from Child!

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posted on Aug, 22 2014 @ 08:26 PM
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originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
a reply to: beezzer

Easy example, try to follow me here, i pay more in insurance and healtcare because i smoke, smoking is a bad bad thing.

A high sugar diet is a bad bad thing right, hope your still following me.

So my freedom cost me more, its my choice.

Now by your definition, you should be allowed to do whatever you want, complain about it, and not pay for it.

Am i right



You should be free to do whatever you want. But I never said you shouldn't be responsible for your actions.




posted on Aug, 22 2014 @ 08:27 PM
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To be honest, I don't find it hard to believe the schools in America are serving 40 year old cookies to begin with. The grey meatloaf they used to serve us had to easily be 2 years old.



posted on Aug, 22 2014 @ 08:42 PM
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a reply to: The Vagabond

I'm a conservative and I agree. I do send my child to school with lunch. I have never expected the school to teach my child morals (biggest laugh I had in several years), manners, how to eat, etc. I expect them to teach her how to add and subtract, read, write etc. Anybody depending on the government to provide anything else is just asking to be called a moron. But they do... and being a mother myself, I have a hard time knowing that some children will only have the one meal at school all day. Now is that my fault? No. people shouldn't have children if they can't afford them. But sometimes shiite happens, and even when it doesn't... It's not the child's fault.

So I see your point and agree with it. But I don't agree with the children having to acclimate or go without because some adults are dumbasses. It's a damned fine line and hard decisions are going to have to come eventually.


originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
To be honest, I don't find it hard to believe the schools in America are serving 40 year old cookies to begin with. The grey meatloaf they used to serve us had to easily be 2 years old.


Where do you think fruitcake REALLY comes from??



edit on 8/22/2014 by Kangaruex4Ewe because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 22 2014 @ 08:58 PM
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a reply to: Kangaruex4Ewe

Oh, if i appeared to say that children should have to go without because the adults blew it then I failed to properly articulate my point.

I absolutely believe that it is in the national interest not to have angry hungry young people around- that is one of the major criteria of a 3rd world country in the original definition, which is to say a nation in danger of going communist. And if it takes a little mild socialism to prevent that, then hey, the best army in the world is socialized rather than capitalist, so it can be made to work, but having been in the military I can tell you that there's just no way to make the food taste good. Nutritious we can do though. But making that work probably does involve taking away the cookie and making him sit in his chair and stare at the slop until the plate is empty, because Asswhoopin Deficiency Disorder has become a major problem and there are kids there who have never been forced to eat anything that didn't contain corn syrup.



posted on Aug, 22 2014 @ 09:17 PM
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originally posted by: The Vagabond
a reply to: Kangaruex4Ewe

Oh, if i appeared to say that children should have to go without because the adults blew it then I failed to properly articulate my point.

I absolutely believe that it is in the national interest not to have angry hungry young people around- that is one of the major criteria of a 3rd world country in the original definition, which is to say a nation in danger of going communist. And if it takes a little mild socialism to prevent that, then hey, the best army in the world is socialized rather than capitalist, so it can be made to work, but having been in the military I can tell you that there's just no way to make the food taste good. Nutritious we can do though. But making that work probably does involve taking away the cookie and making him sit in his chair and stare at the slop until the plate is empty, because Asswhoopin Deficiency Disorder has become a major problem and there are kids there who have never been forced to eat anything that didn't contain corn syrup.


No. I didn't take that as what you said completely that way. I was just clarifying my view because I do have the view that it shouldn't be made easy for people to just continue having kids because people do abuse it. I'm torn in all honesty myself. I never ever want children to go without or hurt, but I don't see a benefit to continuing the current cycle that acts more like a reward system than a system to help folks through a rough patch.

By the time I was done typing, I had almost lost myself lol.

I love the Asswhoopin Deficiency Disorder term as well. I will have to steal it. I didn't feed my daughter any junk food or soda until she was in first or second grade. She's almost 17 now and loves her green beans, mashed potatoes, carrots, turnip greens, etc. that's what I always fed her. I stayed at home so I had the opportunity to cook every day. If she gets a candy bar now, it usually lasts 2 or 3 servings because it's too sweet for her. I'm the same way. I think a lot of it is how you are raised.

Ass whoopin' indeed Vagabond.



posted on Aug, 22 2014 @ 10:15 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

Well, couldn't the solution then be self evident?

Mommy and daddy pack JR. A lunch with said pink cookies inside.

Choice!



posted on Aug, 22 2014 @ 10:24 PM
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Yeah, they removed the cookie but I bet they don't count calories when it comes to their $1,000 a plate Lobster and steak dinners, complete with champagne and fancy desserts. The nerve of them...maybe the pink cookie was there in support of breast cancer awareness just like those ribbons and such.

While they sit their fat a%^ on the Hill and wine and dine on the finest of foods, they tell us what to eat. What next, a toilet paper inspector telling us, in our own home, how many sheets for our shytes. They already took over the light bulb situation. When does it end already? Will they be able to monitor our sex acts in the future and control same in the name of birth control. They tell us what to eat...boss us around our kitchen and food choices, our home and our lighting choices, I supposed the bedroom has to be monitored next...it only stands to reason, by their bassackwards logic.



posted on Aug, 22 2014 @ 10:30 PM
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Well they may be taking away the pink cookie, but ya'll should be happy to know that they're bringing pink slime back, just so you'll have the freedom to buy the crap or buy the good stuff. Yay! Viva la pink!

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posted on Aug, 22 2014 @ 10:34 PM
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a reply to: shrevegal

Keep in mind we are talking about a government run school and not the privacy of people's homes. In that context, yes, the government should be saying what kind of sex (and it better be none or we're gonna need a new government), and actually having seen what happens to highschool bathrooms I wouldn't even be against an automatic toilet paper dispenser that was a little stingy.

Your home, your plumbing (on both of the above issues), your call. Pink cookies and kinky sex and toilet paper fights at my place for everyone, lets' go! But kids need limits, and if it came from their parents maybe it wouldn't be coming from the people who, you are quite correct in pointing out, have no sense of what the limits should be when it comes to their own conduct on our dime.



posted on Aug, 22 2014 @ 10:34 PM
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Aside from the overwhelming hate of Obama, ever think maybe a little kid shouldn't be eating a 200 calorie cookie in school..I know..I know..this is 'Murica. Jesus Christ, no wonder we are all fat.



posted on Aug, 22 2014 @ 11:05 PM
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originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
shouldn't have ANY say over what we do, or what we allow our children to do as long as it is legal. THAT...is not freedom.


the problem with this argument is that there is nothing to stop the people who make the laws from making illegal, that which they do not like.



posted on Aug, 22 2014 @ 11:13 PM
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originally posted by: The Vagabond
I'm sorry, I lost the plot at 40 year old pink cookie, calories or no. Three different jokes tried to fire from the same neuron simultaneously.


LMFAO!

i see what you did there....

lol...anyway, i dunno....on the one hand, yes, kids should be eating good foods..i think we can all agree on this...but on the other hand, i don't think the federal government should be dictating terms, on what is basically a state issue.

i think this idiotic "nutrition" law is overreach at best, and downright orwellian at worst..

i don't think the federal government should have any say in what is served...if a school wants to sell a pastry that they've offered for the last 40 years, i don't think the federal government should be able to step in and say "no, you can't do that anymore, because we don't agree with it"...i think as long as the schools aren't serving death on a plate, it's a state matter, and the state, county, municipality, or community should be making those decisions..

this stupidity is out of hand..



posted on Aug, 22 2014 @ 11:17 PM
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a reply to: intrepid

i actually got suspended from high school, and intermediate school a few times, for leaving, to go home and get lunch...i always came back..-rolleyes- the few times i got suspended, were the few times i was caught. i snuck out ALL THE TIME...



posted on Aug, 22 2014 @ 11:21 PM
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a reply to: HauntWok

until you run into the districts that try to interfere with THAT...



posted on Aug, 22 2014 @ 11:53 PM
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a reply to: Daedalus

Which sets up another excellent lesson to teach children: defiance of unreasonable authority and the primacy of parental authority. It's one thing to have the unhealthy cookie because nobody is watching you and you have a dollar that an adult wants to get from you, then to have the right hand of government balk at what the left hand is doing in that case. Government vs government, indulgence versus necessity- that has the makings of a legitimate intervention perhaps.

It is quite another that the most legitimate authority- the parent- approves and appropriates the cookie for whatever reason (which will be a reason valid enough to justify some actual action, if only a drive to the store) and the government inserts itself into a situation where it had no responsibility. That's government versus family, personal judgement versus the claim of public interest in the personal choices of the individual- the makings of a real overreach.

Any time that the government stops doing something that is not necessary to a more functional society, it's good, because either a waste is eliminated or a responsibility and its attendant privileges is reserved to the people. A cookie is a minor privilege/responsibility to you and me of course, but a significant one to the child, and therefore significantly reinforces the primary position of parents over schools. Anytime the government tries to stop a functional society from doing something on the other hand, society should practice running right over them and the government should practice getting out of the way before that happens.

In short better that children see the government as the surmountable enemy of their cookies, rather than the ever-present giver of cookies. So reasonable or unreasonable, bring it on, and let the kids know where the buck really stops- at home- not in some far away office.



posted on Aug, 23 2014 @ 01:18 AM
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This is just silly. Arguing over food. I am an American that ate food in public schools through high school and I never had a problem with the food. Now, I work as a teacher in China at a kindergarten. It is a private school, but I have worked at two schools in different cities and they are the same. Two full meals that are freshly cooked with fresh veggies and meat. I know this because I see the ladies cooking the meals. Nothing is packaged. There are no preservatives. It is all fresh.

Then, the kids get two snacks per day that consist of fruits. I don't see any of the kids complaining about getting an apple to eat, nor tomatoes, bananas, grapes, pears, etc.

I also don't see any kids complaining about the meals, which is usually rice and veggies with some pork. Some days it is noodles, with veggies and meat and shells. I eat the same thing they do everyday. It is healthy.

The problem is not the food. If you are hungry, you will eat. If you take food and throw it in the trash can, then something is wrong with you.

I am anti-obama as they come and don't like the restrictions the govt is placing on schools, but the problem isn't political nor about obama. It's about entitlement. That is the problem facing America today. Everyone feels entitled to something.There is no entitlement in China. You work for what you have.

There is a reason that America has been going down the tubes and China has been on the rise. They are doing it right (as far as food in schools, to remain on topic). If you take that and go further, you will see why.

OMG!!! Wheat noodles? Fruits? Veggies? It must be the end of the world. I can't eat that! Ugh...

Stupid people...next!!!

P.S. I really do like what someone said about the govt people eating huge meals, but restricting kids, but that is a different topic.
edit on 23-8-2014 by gator2001 because: ETA



posted on Aug, 23 2014 @ 03:31 AM
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a reply to: Daedalus

Then again, you have the CHOICE to either home school your child, or private school them.

Again, pink cookies, good lord!



posted on Aug, 23 2014 @ 06:10 AM
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a reply to: HauntWok

While i agree that the worry over pink cookies is kind of silly.....


....i have to take exception to the suggestion that homeschooling is a viable option. My first issue is, schools are primarily supported via local taxes (property taxes). Even if you aren't a landowner, you are paying those taxes via higher costs of goods. Everyone in the community is paying for the schools both in the property taxes they pay, and the cost of goods markups to pay commercial property tax.

So as a resident of my county, I am already paying for my kids to go to school. I won't get a tax break, and I won't get a rebate. Ill just have to continue paying for the local school (that my kids don't attend) AND paying for all the homeschooling stuff (that is mostly a curricula designed to meet federal guidelines....which is the problem with public schools to begin with).

It seems that recommending homeschooling is disingenuous at best.



posted on Aug, 23 2014 @ 06:19 AM
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remember apple crisp desserts? those were my favorite school lunch room menu item. whoever made the recipe for those was a culinary genius. hehe

otherwise, my lunches consisted of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and some raw veggie from home. but on apple crisp day, i bought the school lunch, ate the apple crisp and threw out the rest.



posted on Aug, 23 2014 @ 06:22 AM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

You don't have to have curricula that meets federal guidelines - not in Texas anyway. Texas is pretty lenient on homeschooling. They treat it like private school, and they don't regulate private schools' curricula. I even know some people in Texas who home school their kids by "unschooling" them, i.e., they don't use any structured curriculum. They just let the kid figure out what he/she is interested in, then help them get more info about that/those subject(s). There are free online sources as well (Kahn Academy on Youtube, for example).

Yes, you do still have to pay taxes that go towards the public schools, but you probably pay taxes for other things that you may not directly benefit from as well. It's just the nature of the beast.

I will be homeschooling my daughter this year - and I'm pretty pumped about it! And I won't be giving her any pink cookies at lunch - she doesn't get that choice.




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