Well, that's also a list of great "Pacifists" once you drop the "Jew" from their title.
I'm honestly 2 sided on the subject, because I do hear what these men are saying, personally i'd never live in that region so I can't be a liar,
i'm not going to be "fighting" for Israel anytime soon, I'd agree wholeheartedly with the sentiment that the British formed Israel for dubious
reasons and it's existence would be bad news...
But then there is the other side of the coin
Why was Israel formed?
It's hard to discount the many things I have read in regards to the World Wars having been planned in advance for various purposes particularly with
many statements written well before the World Wars happened.
The "Use" of "Zionism" to end Islam on the road to Global governance. Let me quote Albert Pike:
"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political
Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the
State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point
of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable
social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody
turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers
of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction,
anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure
doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow
the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."
Now... this Luciferian junk ...I just don't know, but it seems apparent the formation of Israel and goals working against modern religion were at
play a century ago.. for whatever reason. There is plenty out there to indicate this as having some basis in reality.
So... what's the real goal here? It's not the destruction of Judaism per say, a non converting force. Something created from within it, Zionism...
to destroy Islam. As part of a greater plan to eliminate wide spread organized converting religion.
Why? Is the Luciferian aspect of this "real" in any way? I kind of doubt that, maybe an analogy? maybe they feel the masses need some kind of faith
and just invented that nonsense... "light bringer" Light...the light bulb, science and order and government? I don't know...
I know this... Organized religion has been a god damned pox on humanity, Can I envision a world in which 1.5 Billion converters of Faith hold sway in
a global government? hell no...
So this debate, Israel and Palestine... will I actually see Humanity leave Earth, even survive and flourish in a modern era while organized religion
holds power even as is 2/5ths of the planet? No, I know I wont, the basics of these beliefs are medieval at best, anti freedom, opposed to the rule of
rational law, anti progress...
So I ask myself this....
Isn't then Zionism doing it's job? Discounting the Luciferian aspect of this as anything more than a farce in essence and acknowledging that some
group realized early on religion would doom us... being first and foremost a man of science a progressive in thought I can say and be honest....
religion scares the crap out of me, not just for myself but for the whole human race (i'd also say this is one hell of a fracked up plan to eliminate
it in fairness) but also that it is eliminating something that has seen my people, scientists, geeks, knowledge seekers, progressives, killed a dozen
different way for centuries and centuries...
Why then should I oppose Zionism?
In the end... without it i'm basically a dead man for sure, if the plans Pike speaks of didn't come to pass, the books I love are burned, my career
in science is at best non existent, freedom for women as a start is a non entity, progressive thought vanquished... likely, if Christianity and Islam
retained power... I wouldn't be here.
So if this is all about the end of modern religion, why would I oppose it?
I suppose the real answer pro or con would lay within a single question.... What is Luciferianism really? Is it the representation of an idea? Or
just a new group or nutters that actually believe in some moronic deity and i'm looking at just another group of rabid nut cases?
At a core as a philosophy I believe in en-LIGHT-enment, knowledge, rationality. If this is simply what the purpose of this is meant to be, "the
"light bringer" as a symbol for getting past superstitious bs it would indeed be very hard for me to champion the cause of "believers" against the
purpose of Zionism even if the methodology is rotten as all get go.
Because sorry but... by belief in that region, I'm a dead man, an infidel, a non believer, my very way of life is simply not allowed on many levels
and as Tyrion said in GOT "I Like Living"