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Edgar Cayce 630-2 Survivors of Mu in Oregon?

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posted on Aug, 23 2014 @ 05:01 PM
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a reply to: misskat1

The bees are very interesting. I think you might have something there, especially with the leylines.

A few of the other pictures were accurate as well, some of the last ones were a bit harder for me to conceptualize.
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posted on Aug, 23 2014 @ 05:35 PM
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a reply to: misskat1

Very Interesting Thread! S+F For You!
Tagging for future reading. Later, Syx.



posted on Aug, 23 2014 @ 06:57 PM
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originally posted by: misskat1
a reply to: Harte

We may not know the actual name the ancients used to label their society. So, you are right, Mu and Lemuria are modern titles for an ancient civilization.

Sorry, but that's simply not true.

The term Mu originated with Charles-Étienne Brasseur de Bourbourg and was embraced by Le Plongeon and then Churchward. Note the following:

Le Plongeon actually got the name "Mu" from Charles Étienne Brasseur de Bourbourg who in 1864 mistranslated what was then called the Troano Codex using the de Landa alphabet. Brasseur believed that a word that he read as Mu referred to a land submerged by a catastrophe.[7] Le Plongeon then identified this lost land with Atlantis, and turned it into a continent which had supposedly sunk into the Atlantic Ocean:
"In our journey westward across the Atlantic we shall pass in sight of that spot where once existed the pride and life of the ocean, the Land of Mu, which, at the epoch that we have been considering, had not yet been visited by the wrath of Human, that lord of volcanic fires to whose fury it afterward fell a victim. The description of that land given to Solon by Sonchis, priest at Sais; its destruction by earthquakes, and submergence, recorded by Plato in his Timaeus, have been told and retold so many times that it is useless to encumber these pages with a repetition of it".[1]: ch. VI, p. 66
Le Plongeon claimed that the civilization of ancient Egypt was founded by Queen Moo, a refugee from the land's demise. Other refugees supposedly fled to Central America and became the Mayans.[4]

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The Troano Codex is today called the Madrid Codex. If you can read Mayan glyphs, you can read it in this pdf. As far as I'm aware, no free english-language version exists so you can't actually read a translation online. That's not surprising, though, since Mayan was only reliably translated in the early 1980's.

On the other hand, there is enough analysis about the Madrid Codex online for you to realize it's an astrological/astronomical text and actually has nothing to do with any legend of the Mayas and a lost continent, Mu or otherwise.

The term Lemuria was coined by Philip Sclater in 1864 to refer to an hypothetical continent in the Indian Ocean that sank. He hypothesized this because lemurs are today only found on Madagascar but fossil lemurs are found on the mainlaind of India. He hypothesized a now-lost land bridge between the two and coined the term "Lemuria" for it because of the lemurs.

At the time, the concept of plate tectonics was unknown which was why Schlater felt the need for his land bridge. It's also why frauds like Madame Helena Blavatski and Edgar Cayce jumped on Lemuria as an actual place - at the time, it was believed to have actually existed.

From the geology of the two places, we now know that Madagascar and India were once part of a single land mass that subsequently broke apart due to plate tectonics.

So, no, there's no ancient civilization associated with either name since both are (and always have been) nonexistant.

Regarding your statement that one can "choose to believe" there was never any ancient civilization, I don't see what you base this rude statement on. Do you think there is something wrong with asking for at least some evidence for such a thing before believing it? That is, speculating is fine, but speculation is not the equivalent of belief. At least, not to any thinking person. Are you not one of those?

Harte



posted on Aug, 23 2014 @ 08:30 PM
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I totally apologize if my statement came off as rude. I would own it if that was my intention.

When I started this thread, I didnt intend to spark a debate on the illegitimacy of the land of Mu/Lemuria. And I dont think I have any new information to bring to light on the subject. It has been written and rewritten, argued and debated over, and I have nothing new to add to the argument.

I was focusing on the Cayce readings, about S. Oregon. I think I found the worship center that he was talking about, I shared the images I found, because that is something new to bring to the table. And its what I have to share on the subject. I really dont know the ancient name of the creators of this place. Cayce said they were from Mu.

Debating weather these are earth art, or were created, was the only real issue for me. I must have written my opening statement in a confusing manner. I will reread it and see how I managed to confuse my readers.

Yes, I get that you believe the place is fictional. I dont think you revealed how you feel about the Cayce readings, but that is really what this is about.

Thank you for bringing this information to the table.



posted on Aug, 23 2014 @ 08:35 PM
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The last images were saved after google white washed the images. Looking back on my choice, I should have left them out, because they arent as clear.

I dont know how anyone could think those bee's are natural landscape images.



posted on Aug, 23 2014 @ 09:44 PM
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originally posted by: misskat1
a reply to: Harte

I totally apologize if my statement came off as rude. I would own it if that was my intention.

No real need. You're talking to one of the rudest members here - ask anyone.

But seriously, it is not a "decision" not to believe in something when there is not a whit of evidence for it.

There's waaay more evidence even for Bigfoot than any lost civilization.

I don't hold Cayce's feet to the fire for believing in Lemuria, BTW. The idea made sense at the time.
No, I disparage Cayce for his naivete for believing his own hype (at least, it seems he did.)

The fact that he spoke of Lemuria and it's "natives" in the way he did should tell you all you need to know about Cayce's veracity - he had none.

Well, that and the fact that he claimed half the US will have slid off into the Pacific and that China will be a Christian nation by the present date.

In other words, Cayce said nothing at all interesting, just like the rest of the quacks of his time.



originally posted by: misskat1When I started this thread, I didnt intend to spark a debate on the illegitimacy of the land of Mu/Lemuria. And I dont think I have any new information to bring to light on the subject. It has been written and rewritten, argued and debated over, and I have nothing new to add to the argument.

I was focusing on the Cayce readings, about S. Oregon. I think I found the worship center that he was talking about, I shared the images I found, because that is something new to bring to the table. And its what I have to share on the subject. I really dont know the ancient name of the creators of this place. Cayce said they were from Mu.

I hear you on that, and sorry if I drew out the Lemuria and Mu stuff too long.

But when Cayce comes up here, what is one to do but show how wriong he was? I mean, he really had no idea and lending any credence to anything claimed about him is a fatal error in any reasonable argument/debate.


originally posted by: misskat1
Debating weather these are earth art, or were created, was the only real issue for me. I must have written my opening statement in a confusing manner. I will reread it and see how I managed to confuse my readers.

Yes, I get that you believe the place is fictional. I dont think you revealed how you feel about the Cayce readings, but that is really what this is about.

Thank you for bringing this information to the table.

The land forms you posted are just that, land forms. What's happened here is called pareidolia. Check this out:

Pareidolia is the experience of “seeing” something in a stimulus that’s simply vague and random.

You’ve felt it if you’ve ever seen images of animals or faces in clouds, or the man in the moon, or heard messages when records are played in reverse. It’s the basis for the Rorschach inkblot test.

This is a portrait of Elizabeth II as it appeared on the 1954 series Canadian dollar bill. So many people thought they saw the face of the devil in the queen’s hair that the bills were eventually withdrawn from circulation.

There’s nothing there — the portrait was adapted from a photograph.
Source
The portrait in question is at the link. I didn't feel like uploading it and that appears to be the only way to post pics here anymore.
The human brain is a big, wet, pattern-recognition machine. It sees patterns where none exist, it wants them so badly.
Type pareidolia into google images. You'll be amazed.

Harte



posted on Aug, 23 2014 @ 10:22 PM
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I see that you regard Cayce, the same way I regard Blaskey and Nostrodamus, (too lazy to look up spellings) But, in my opinion, Cayce was special.

You might be completely right about the Phareidolia, however, the part that makes this place different is that the glyphs tell a story, and they are in a relatively confined area. Ive looked at google earth a lot, this place is special. I am confined due to physical problems that limits my activities.

I would throw in a few Cayce points, but we arent on the same page. So ????

When you look at the first image I posted, can you seriously not see the detail in those Bees? Are you telling me that that is a natural formation?

If you want to see the other images I saved, before google changed their format, you can go to www.americangeoglyphs.com



posted on Aug, 23 2014 @ 10:43 PM
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It is hard to believe a “Worship Center” or the “Family Totem” as defined in Cayce's reading 630-2 could be this large.

However, in Reading 281-25, Cayce describes one person's past life as a temple guard that escorted and protected initiates as they made their way across the “worship center”.

Reading 281-25 “as having been a guard to those as they proceeded from one symbol to another in their journey about the temple. From station to station in the seven phases or seals or stands or places of the activities, they were such as to make each station lead from another by ever crossing the one, making the continued web,”.

So, It seems to me that the worship center that Cayce is referring to, would need to be a large area. It was a journey that required a guard.



posted on Aug, 23 2014 @ 11:02 PM
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S & F for you Misskat1.

I find this thread to be extremely interesting and I for one thank you for taking the time and pointing out these images and your theory on EC.

The images are fascinating to look at none the less...Good eye!



posted on Aug, 23 2014 @ 11:30 PM
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originally posted by: misskat1
a reply to: Harte

I see that you regard Cayce, the same way I regard Blaskey and Nostrodamus, (too lazy to look up spellings) But, in my opinion, Cayce was special.

As I said, I suspect he wasn't an outright fraud like Blavatski (Nostradamus wasn't a fraud either - but his present-day gawkers are.) Cayce, I believe, was convinced of his own special "talent." It was the talent itself that wasn't real.


originally posted by: misskat1When you look at the first image I posted, can you seriously not see the detail in those Bees? Are you telling me that that is a natural formation?

Okay, you made me upload.

Do you see the out-of-scale face in this pic?


Looks like a possible double exposure, doesn't it?

The face isn't even there, as you can see in this colorized version of the photo:




Told you you would be amazed.

Harte



posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 02:53 AM
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Come on, really people? What at all is remotely interesting about this? Its a classic case of Apophenia Pareidolia. Aka you are seeing human features in random meaningless data. Sadly, like half of the "data" posted on this forum is a result of this. Honestly, you can probably find similar features all over your own house. See: Pareidolia

Also the fact you sent some letter to an Archaeologist is meaningless. Are you suggesting that some archaeologists in Oregon contacted the powers at be and had your pictures wiped? If so that is utter nonsense and demonstrates how far removed from actual academics you are. I know tons of Archaeologists, trust me they spend all there time reading academic journals and are not part of any global conspiracy. The reason you probably never got a response from anyone is because you've shown absolutely no verifiable data to back up a rather preposterous theory. What you've presented is no more meaningful than looking at clouds and day dreaming about what they look like.


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posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 06:33 AM
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Thank you for weighing in on this.
This wasnt intended to be an academic paper. And as I said in my op, that I am not sharing everything I have discovered about the area, in terms of academic research, because, I was focusing on the Cayce reading. I dont think it would be proper to make a 10 page op.

I dont agree about the global conspiracy, I truly believe that everything related to the giants that were in N. America has been suppressed, and continues to be suppressed. No need to argue with me about this point. But, I do think it would be a really interesting read, if you wrote an academic paper to prove to ATS, that there is no suppression of archaeology findings on a global scale. I would be very interested in your facts and findings. So, would the numbers of people who have written books about it.

I know it is a possible coincidence that the images were blocked, shortly after I emailed images to the archaeology dept. Here are comparison images, to show you that they are truly white washed. Even in the google earth historic images, they were blocked.


After the white washing

Before the white washing

Its OK that you do not see the detail in the images I presented. Or their similarities to the gods of the Egyptians. Or how they emulate biblical scripture. However, I am shocked that anyone thinks the Bee pond was a natural formation.

At the very least, I hope you got some cheep entertainment from these 'earth art' images.
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posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 10:00 AM
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ATS Members...

PLEASE, stop trying to discredit the OP for presenting what they have clearly states is their OWN views and opinions on information related to Edgar Cayce.

PLEASE, stop attacking misskat1 for being polite enough to even respond to your indirect and passively aggressive opinions of your own.

The OP is about something Edgar Cayce said in one of his readings and how it relates to a specific part of the geography of Oregon.

It's a conspiracy forum... there is a lot of conspiracy around a lot of what Edgar Cayce said and did in his life, that is to be expected. If you're going to try to discredit Cayce, you better bring a lot more than "China isn't a Christian nation" or "California didn't fall into the ocean yet..." - the guy had THOUSANDS of people that he helped medically with no medical background, and an 8th grade education.

What I find funny is that people will throw things like that into the pot and say "Look, he was WRONG!"

Yet... they ignore the several hundred other things that he was right about, a few of which:

- He predicted his own death, to the day.
- He predicted the stock market crash of '29 (readings 2723-1 and 900-425)
- He predicted WW2 (reading 416-7)
- He predicted the discovery of an undiscovered society known as the Essennes which led to finding the Dead Sea Scrolls (several hundred readings, but you can find info in 489-1, 489-3, 1010-17)

These are predictions that impacted large groups of people, and there were hundreds that were directed at individuals, of which, many people prefer not to share, not because they were wrong, but because they were RIGHT and in the readings, very personal details were told to these people, and that's why Cayce had so many people who felt passionately about his "ability".

So the other posters, if you have something that you'd like to add that is FACTUAL, in order to help others in this thread see different points of views or to come to their own conclusions, I encourage that and appreciate the few folks on here who have done that.

For the others.... I respectfully ask that you stop shooting the messenger and contribute something constructive instead of demanding that the OP find their own conclusions wrong while you try to replace theirs with your own.

Not cool.

~Namaste
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posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 11:00 AM
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a reply to: SonOfTheLawOfOne

Wow, thank you for going to bat for me. I hope you didnt make yourself a target. I find its better, not to give them any fuel. Its hard to keep a thread on the original subject, always derailers.

I would like to message you privately, regarding my personal experience with this place. And to compare notes with someone. I believe I am also a Child of the Law of One. I dont want to share in a public forum, as you already know, how well that is received. (again fuel for the angry souls) Anyway, my thread was designed to connect with like minded people. I am glad I have done that with a few other Cayce fans. I may not be able to message you this morning, (sister coming over for coffee) but look for it over the next few days.

Thank you again,
Daughter of the Law of One
Kat



posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 12:00 PM
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My pleasure.

I'm not worried about being a target, haters are going to hate. I've already identified most of my loyal band of followers to whom I am their nemesis, of which, I accept how I am perceived since you can't really change people's perceptions.


As Nietzsche says:

"All things are subject to interpretation. Whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth."

I also come to these threads to discuss and connect with like minded people, so feel free to message me privately anytime.



~Namaste



posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 12:37 PM
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Hey, Im from N. Cal too!

Near Shasta, these glyphs are really close to Mt. Shasta. Care to go on an expedition with me? Not tell like spring next year or something. But, I took a trip out to the sunstone area. And saw the cliff around High Priest Lake. There is an eye carved on it. I swear!

Also, it was early am and it had a shadow over it, so I told my son I wanted to take pics on the way back when it faced the sun. On the way back there was one cloud in the sky. And it was sitting on the cliff (really hanging on the clliff) above the eye. Hard Rain was falling like sheets or pillars. I have never seen anything like it in my entire life. I was about a 1/4 mile away and was standing under a warm, cloudless, sunny sky. But, rain was falling like a solid pillar of water, but only in front of that eye. And it wasnt even a big cloud.

My son saw it too, or Im not sure I would have believed it. It is probably common, but I have never seen anything like it before.



posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 05:08 PM
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originally posted by: SonOfTheLawOfOne
ATS Members...

PLEASE, stop trying to discredit the OP for presenting what they have clearly states is their OWN views and opinions on information related to Edgar Cayce.

PLEASE, stop attacking misskat1 for being polite enough to even respond to your indirect and passively aggressive opinions of your own.

The OP is about something Edgar Cayce said in one of his readings and how it relates to a specific part of the geography of Oregon.

It's a conspiracy forum... there is a lot of conspiracy around a lot of what Edgar Cayce said and did in his life, that is to be expected. If you're going to try to discredit Cayce, you better bring a lot more than "China isn't a Christian nation" or "California didn't fall into the ocean yet..." - the guy had THOUSANDS of people that he helped medically with no medical background, and an 8th grade education.

If that were true, then it would be understandable that people are in awe of Cayce.

Unfortunately, it's not true.

For example, a hypothetical patient dying of kidney disease might have Cayce do a reading and a typical Cayce response would be to comment on at least four or five different vital systems in his reading.
If he even once mentioned the word "kidney," the ARE counts that as a "hit," even if it was included in a string of comments about the lungs, heart liver and spleen.

That's where the "thousands of people" stat comes from.

Cayce was self-educated beyond the 8th grade when he worked for a bookseller for several years before he was married (and for a year afterward.)

Cayce had a physician with him when he did medical readings, yet people simply can't acknowledge that physicians, not seers, actually help sick people, even back then.


originally posted by: SonOfTheLawOfOneWhat I find funny is that people will throw things like that into the pot and say "Look, he was WRONG!"

Yet... they ignore the several hundred other things that he was right about, a few of which:

- He predicted his own death, to the day.

Two days before it happened. My grandfather and mother did the same. Maybe I should start a foundation of my own.


originally posted by: SonOfTheLawOfOne
- He predicted the stock market crash of '29 (readings 2723-1 and 900-425)


The Stock Market Crash of 1929 was perhaps the most devastating financial disaster the United
States has ever seen. In 1925 Edgar Cayce was visited by a young doctor whom he told would soon
find himself in possession of a great amount of wealth. However, Mr Cayce warned this young man
of “adverse forces that will come then in 1929” and to be very careful with his money. (2723-1)

On another occasion Edgar Cayce explains the stock market crash six months before it happened,
warning of a great disturbance in financial circles. Cayce explains, “we may expect a
CONSIDERABLE break and bear market, see? This issue being between those of the reserves of
nations and of INDIVIDUALS, and will cause—unless another of the more STABLE banking
conditions come to the relief—a great disturbance in financial circles. This warning has been given,
see?” (900-425)

The prediction comes down to "be careful with your money," a prediction being made daily in the run up to the crash by many market watchers at the time. In fact, this is still the case today. "Be careful with your money" is always good advice.


originally posted by: SonOfTheLawOfOne- He predicted WW2 (reading 416-7)
- He predicted the discovery of an undiscovered society known as the Essennes which led to finding the Dead Sea Scrolls (several hundred readings, but you can find info in 489-1, 489-3, 1010-17)

Typical Cayce hype.

The Essenes were first documented by Pliny the Elder, the Roman author from the first century AD and certainly weren't "unknown," though that descriptor helps Cayce look awesome.

What Cayce correctly "predicted" was the role of women in their society. They were more involved than had been thought. That yes or no question is the full extent of this prediction.


originally posted by: SonOfTheLawOfOneThese are predictions that impacted large groups of people, and there were hundreds that were directed at individuals, of which, many people prefer not to share, not because they were wrong, but because they were RIGHT and in the readings, very personal details were told to these people, and that's why Cayce had so many people who felt passionately about his "ability".

Testimonials are all there is.
You realize that even the evidence for Bigfoot is more than merely testimonials, I hope.


originally posted by: SonOfTheLawOfOneSo the other posters, if you have something that you'd like to add that is FACTUAL, in order to help others in this thread see different points of views or to come to their own conclusions, I encourage that and appreciate the few folks on here who have done that.

See, I mean really see the above.

Harte



posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 07:28 PM
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Cayce was self-educated beyond the 8th grade when he worked for a bookseller for several years before he was married (and for a year afterward.)


Like I said, he had an 8th grade education. We can all claim "self-education", but that doesn't prescribe us to know what the hell we are talking about compared to someone with a full academic teaching. If you are using that as a measuring stick, than I am a self-taught PhD in 20 different areas of study.


Cayce had a physician with him when he did medical readings, yet people simply can't acknowledge that physicians, not seers, actually help sick people, even back then.


I think you are mistaken. Cayce had the physician with him to validate whether or not what he was saying was true, if it was possible or if it was a complete farce. I don't know where "people can't acknowledge that physicians, not seers, actually help sick people..." is coming from, but it has nothing to do with whether or not people who AREN'T physicians, can still help sick people. Cayce stood very firmly on the influence the mind has on the body, so your comment is very trite.


Two days before it happened. My grandfather and mother did the same. Maybe I should start a foundation of my own.


You should really get your facts straight instead of just bashing Edgar Cayce because you have a different belief system. You aren't going to convince people of anything here, take that garbage somewhere else. It would be one thing if you had FACTS... this is not a FACT as you so strongly advocate on your post.

FACT: it was four days. I don't care that you were off by 2 days, the FACT is that you were WRONG and misstated.

FACT: Cayce predicted the day he would die, and it was from a STROKE. How many people do you think predicted they would die from a stroke, accurately, to the day?

Maybe you should start a foundation... for people who need to fund a research center because they are too stupid or lazy to go look something up before they speak. What a contrived, asinine thing to say about someone who gave everything he had to do nothing more than help people. If you're lucky, maybe you'll die someday being able to say the same, but judging by your posts and the way you come across, I find that to be doubtful, at best.


The prediction comes down to "be careful with your money," a prediction being made daily in the run up to the crash by many market watchers at the time. In fact, this is still the case today. "Be careful with your money" is always good advice.


No... it's more like "be careful with your money in 1929"... that's quite a bit different there buddy, and I think you know that. You are ignoring the relevance because of your bias toward Cayce instead of recognizing the accuracy in the statement. Especially ignoring the fact that "times were good" just before the crash in '29, and nobody saw it coming. (except maybe big bankers).


The Essenes were first documented by Pliny the Elder, the Roman author from the first century AD and certainly weren't "unknown," though that descriptor helps Cayce look awesome.


Read what I said. I said undiscovered, not that they were unknown. Those are your words, not mine. It wasn't until the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls in 1947 that the Essennes were confirmed to have existed, and even that has been contested.


Testimonials are all there is.
You realize that even the evidence for Bigfoot is more than merely testimonials, I hope.


I've read the testimonials, due to an affliction I had that NO DOCTOR could provide a "cure" for, only "treatments". Well, after more than a decade of those destructive treatments, I found a recommended "cure" suggested by Cayce in his readings. I applied it, and it worked for me, so it goes far beyond mere testimonials. There is something more to it, which I will not, and cannot deny thanks to being a witness to it.

I honestly don't care if you believe me or not. For the record, I still see "regular" doctors, but I apply many of the things Cayce spoke of in my own life, and they have worked for me. That's all the proof, or "testimonial", I'll ever need.

Nobody else is on this thread trying to tell you what to believe or think (yet you are doing it to others), and you don't even get your facts straight before you twist them, so what is it that you think you are gaining by trying to make other people believe what you want them to?

Go start your own thread if that's what you want to do, don't be a troll on someone else's who is genuinely trying to connect with other like-minded people... it's certainly not to have their mind changed by some arrogant nobody who has a clear bias and disdain for Edgar Cayce, and anyone who appreciates the work he did.

~Namaste






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posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 10:41 PM
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originally posted by: Harte
As was stated, neither Mu nor Lemuria ever existed. That is an absolute certainty.

During Casey's time, this wasn't known for certain.

Harte


You sir don't know what you are talking about.

The last piece of the lost continent of Mu that is above water is Easter Island. The last piece of Atlantis that is left above water are the Canary Islands.

The giant heads on Easter Island aren't just heads they have bodies buried under the ground and these statues were stylized for the time. They lined all the roads that were laid out like a spider web across the country to the the center where the main pyramid was. The pyramid was used as a captor of cosmic rays in order to broadcast human thoughts in which the king could meditate then focus and then gather and also create rain clouds and make a veritable paradise out of the land. This is also why Eygpt isn't like a jungle the way it used to be.

It's also allowed the kings and some of his initiates to tap into the psychosphere of Earth and also to visit parallel universes via astral travel.
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posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 11:06 PM
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originally posted by: SonOfTheLawOfOne
a reply to: Harte


Cayce was self-educated beyond the 8th grade when he worked for a bookseller for several years before he was married (and for a year afterward.)


Like I said, he had an 8th grade education. We can all claim "self-education", but that doesn't prescribe us to know what the hell we are talking about compared to someone with a full academic teaching. If you are using that as a measuring stick, than I am a self-taught PhD in 20 different areas of study.
Cayce's education was typical for his time. The man was talented. He wasn't stupid. He was obviously a gifted therapist/counselor. I don't think he was a purposeful fraud. Just a man who believed his own hype.

But there were a great many people in the states at that time that believed in spiritualism, etc. Theosophy and the like was the rage in those days and mediums proliferated.

Ever read a Houdini biography?


originally posted by: SonOfTheLawOfOne

Cayce had a physician with him when he did medical readings, yet people simply can't acknowledge that physicians, not seers, actually help sick people, even back then.


I think you are mistaken. Cayce had the physician with him to validate whether or not what he was saying was true, if it was possible or if it was a complete farce. I don't know where "people can't acknowledge that physicians, not seers, actually help sick people..." is coming from, but it has nothing to do with whether or not people who AREN'T physicians, can still help sick people. Cayce stood very firmly on the influence the mind has on the body, so your comment is very trite.
Think what you want. There's no evidence that Cayce actually helped anyone at all, other than testimonials. None.

Have you never wondered why you have to pay to get a look at all of his readings at ARE?


originally posted by: SonOfTheLawOfOne

Two days before it happened. My grandfather and mother did the same. Maybe I should start a foundation of my own.


You should really get your facts straight instead of just bashing Edgar Cayce because you have a different belief system. You aren't going to convince people of anything here, take that garbage somewhere else. It would be one thing if you had FACTS... this is not a FACT as you so strongly advocate on your post.

It most certainly is a fact. Cayce's prediction of his own death did not occur during a reading. It was the statement that he would be buried in four days. He died two days later.

Perhaps you should make some small effort to learn a few minor details about a thing prior to making a fool of yourself by exposing your own ignorance like you just did. A Cayce acolyte that doesn't even know the simplest facts about Cayce??!!

As for you telling me to "take (my) garbage elsewhere - no. I have offered nothing at all but facts concerning this matter. It's not my problem if you are so unschooled about Cayce that you have to claim facts are "garbage" in order to maintain your comfortable ignorance. You are the one posting garbage here. Your last post amounts to you saying "Nuh uh!"

Cayce died two days after his prediction. Look something up for God's sake.


originally posted by: SonOfTheLawOfOneFACT: it was four days. I don't care that you were off by 2 days, the FACT is that you were WRONG and misstated.

FACT: Cayce predicted the day he would die, and it was from a STROKE. How many people do you think predicted they would die from a stroke, accurately, to the day?

If you say so, but you contradict Stearn, the author of the most-read Cayce biography "Edgar Cayce, The Sleeping Prophet."


In late November, as thin as a wraith, but still wearing a smile, he returned home to spend his last days, looking across the lake where he had fished so often. On New Year’s Day, 1945, he told visitors cheerfully, “It is all arranged. I am to be healed on Friday, the fifth of January.” His friends understood what he meant, when they arrived on Friday for his funeral. He would be elsewhere, wherever this healing would occur.
Source: "Edgar Cayce: The Sleeping Prophet" by Jess Stearn, 1967 Chapter 16. That's a number bigger than One, so you might want to get some help locating it.

He died January 3rd. That's TWO days later.

Now, perhaps you should "look something up before you speak." You appear to be enamored of Cayce, yet a skeptic is taking you to school on the subject of your own infatuation.

Harte



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