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To intervene before the deathblow is delivered to NATO-backed terrorists in Syria and before the tide is turned against them in Iraq, the West may attempt to provoke, stage, or otherwise create a pretext to militarily intervene in Syria, and expand its operations in Iraq.
originally posted by: one4all
At this point lets just roll.
There will be no end to the Middle East conflicts until someone simply seeks to change everything about the area until we no longer call it the Middle East.
if this means wiping out the Syrian and Iraqi Militaries then lets just get it done,if it means wiping out Pakistan or anyone else who want to cause crap lets git er done before we are all to old and crippled to even make it happen,once the Baby Boomers are toast and the Echos fade we are numericlly toast , we will not be able to do anything,its now or never.
originally posted by: caladonea
a reply to: BornAgainAlien
Do you think our enemies in the Middle East are planning another strike on U.S. soil?
Also...do you think they have been infiltrating the U.S. for many years and may already have an (underground army) in the U.S.?
Quatar wants a gas pipeline to Europe – through Syria. The Turks want the Quatar pipeline to Europe – through Turkey and Syria. Assad has blocked this pipeline. So now the Turks and Quatar both support the imported al Qaeda fighters who are trying to overthrow Assad.
Iran does not want the Quatar pipeline to Europe. They want their own pipeline to Europe – via Syria. So the Iranians are supporting Assad. But this proposed line goes through Lebanon (and then under sea to Europe) bypassing Turkey - who now want to get rid of Assad.
Russia does not want the proposed Quatar gas pipeline to Europe, where they export most of their gas. So they have supported the Assad military dictatorship, their client and puppet, who has blocked it on their behalf - until Assad agreed to the Iranian pipeline to Europe.
originally posted by: grandmakdw
a reply to: BornAgainAlien
The US oligarchs will suffer with a world wide financial collapse.
I do think that someone (actually worldwide someones) want WWIII
it is a proven way to revive all the economies of the world in the long run.
Evil, yes, will it work, after the war is over certainly.
Is it just the idea of US oligarchs, heck no, world wide oligarchs, there are plenty in other countries, unless one is so narrow minded and bigoted to think that only the US has all the oligarchs of the world.
That doesn't change my opinion of the US being blackmailed into action in the ME
originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
originally posted by: grandmakdw
a reply to: BornAgainAlien
The US oligarchs will suffer with a world wide financial collapse.
I do think that someone (actually worldwide someones) want WWIII
it is a proven way to revive all the economies of the world in the long run.
Evil, yes, will it work, after the war is over certainly.
Is it just the idea of US oligarchs, heck no, world wide oligarchs, there are plenty in other countries, unless one is so narrow minded and bigoted to think that only the US has all the oligarchs of the world.
That doesn't change my opinion of the US being blackmailed into action in the ME
Which oligarchs are the ones pushing for war ? That should give an answer to the question.
And how in the world is US being blackmailed while they are the ones doing it for ages, it sounds rather strange they are now all of sudden the ones who are getting blackmailed...?
There are two measures if you really want to fight against the Islamic State in a successful way. Measure number one would be to sanction and to punish all those powers that are supporting the Islamic State. This would be Turkey on the one side, and the Gulf States on the other. The other measure would be helping and arming those armies that have been fighting the terrorists for years, and this would be the Syrian army, because it has been fighting this war for three years, and from time to time in a very successful way.
originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: grandmakdw
Let me see, those ME states are sponsoring those rebels, but US has to fight them while they are funded by those states, that doesn`t make sense to me ?
There are two measures if you really want to fight against the Islamic State in a successful way. Measure number one would be to sanction and to punish all those powers that are supporting the Islamic State. This would be Turkey on the one side, and the Gulf States on the other. The other measure would be helping and arming those armies that have been fighting the terrorists for years, and this would be the Syrian army, because it has been fighting this war for three years, and from time to time in a very successful way.
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originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
originally posted by: caladonea
a reply to: BornAgainAlien
Do you think our enemies in the Middle East are planning another strike on U.S. soil?
Also...do you think they have been infiltrating the U.S. for many years and may already have an (underground army) in the U.S.?
If it happens, it will be another False Flag (CIA involvement), I would not be surprised if it happens again.
originally posted by: caladonea
originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
originally posted by: caladonea
a reply to: BornAgainAlien
Do you think our enemies in the Middle East are planning another strike on U.S. soil?
Also...do you think they have been infiltrating the U.S. for many years and may already have an (underground army) in the U.S.?
If it happens, it will be another False Flag (CIA involvement), I would not be surprised if it happens again.
Are you saying that some of their soldiers are undercover CIA?
originally posted by: caladonea
originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
originally posted by: caladonea
a reply to: BornAgainAlien
Do you think our enemies in the Middle East are planning another strike on U.S. soil?
Also...do you think they have been infiltrating the U.S. for many years and may already have an (underground army) in the U.S.?
If it happens, it will be another False Flag (CIA involvement), I would not be surprised if it happens again.
Are you saying that some of their soldiers are undercover CIA?
August 21, 2014 (Tony Cartalucci - LD) - As predicted, the "sudden" appearance of the Islamic State in Syria and Iraq (ISIS) in northern Iraq weeks ago, has created the rhetorical framework within which the United States and its regional partners will attempt to militarily intervene in both Iraq and Syria. Token US airstrikes have already been underway in Iraq, and it is now revealed that US special operation forces have been operating in Syria, under the guise of attempting to rescue abducted and now slain American journalist, James Wright Foley.
With one American journalist, TIME reporter Steven Sotloff, still missing and allegedly being held by ISIS terrorists, further US military incursions into Syrian territory may be attempted under a similar alleged pretense. To further justify expanding across the border and into Syria already ongoing US military operations in Iraq, the Western media has begun claiming that ISIS leadership, "fearing" US airstrikes, are fleeing to safety in neighboring Syria.