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posted on Aug, 21 2014 @ 08:55 AM
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Time to watch out for new events :

Staged Provocations Ahead Possible US-Syrian War



To intervene before the deathblow is delivered to NATO-backed terrorists in Syria and before the tide is turned against them in Iraq, the West may attempt to provoke, stage, or otherwise create a pretext to militarily intervene in Syria, and expand its operations in Iraq.


journal-neo.org...




posted on Aug, 21 2014 @ 09:07 AM
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At this point lets just roll.

There will be no end to the Middle East conflicts until someone simply seeks to change everything about the area until we no longer call it the Middle East.

if this means wiping out the Syrian and Iraqi Militaries then lets just get it done,if it means wiping out Pakistan or anyone else who want to cause crap lets git er done before we are all to old and crippled to even make it happen,once the Baby Boomers are toast and the Echos fade we are numericlly toast , we will not be able to do anything,its now or never.



posted on Aug, 21 2014 @ 09:18 AM
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a reply to: BornAgainAlien

Do you think our enemies in the Middle East are planning another strike on U.S. soil?

Also...do you think they have been infiltrating the U.S. for many years and may already have an (underground army) in the U.S.?



posted on Aug, 21 2014 @ 09:21 AM
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originally posted by: one4all
At this point lets just roll.

There will be no end to the Middle East conflicts until someone simply seeks to change everything about the area until we no longer call it the Middle East.

if this means wiping out the Syrian and Iraqi Militaries then lets just get it done,if it means wiping out Pakistan or anyone else who want to cause crap lets git er done before we are all to old and crippled to even make it happen,once the Baby Boomers are toast and the Echos fade we are numericlly toast , we will not be able to do anything,its now or never.


It`s about going after Assad, so Russia can get bypassed with gas-pipeline from Qatar to Europe.

We all know how things have been working out in Libia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Egypt and Ukraine after regime change. Syria was stable with Assad, and if he wins, it will get stable again...last time he was winning, US started to train and arm rebels, now they seem to try to do it themselves.



posted on Aug, 21 2014 @ 09:23 AM
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originally posted by: caladonea
a reply to: BornAgainAlien

Do you think our enemies in the Middle East are planning another strike on U.S. soil?

Also...do you think they have been infiltrating the U.S. for many years and may already have an (underground army) in the U.S.?


If it happens, it will be another False Flag (CIA involvement), I would not be surprised if it happens again.



posted on Aug, 21 2014 @ 09:51 AM
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Some background on Syria war :

Syria’s Pipeline War: “Operation Gas Pains”



Quatar wants a gas pipeline to Europe – through Syria. The Turks want the Quatar pipeline to Europe – through Turkey and Syria. Assad has blocked this pipeline. So now the Turks and Quatar both support the imported al Qaeda fighters who are trying to overthrow Assad.

Iran does not want the Quatar pipeline to Europe. They want their own pipeline to Europe – via Syria. So the Iranians are supporting Assad. But this proposed line goes through Lebanon (and then under sea to Europe) bypassing Turkey - who now want to get rid of Assad.

Russia does not want the proposed Quatar gas pipeline to Europe, where they export most of their gas. So they have supported the Assad military dictatorship, their client and puppet, who has blocked it on their behalf - until Assad agreed to the Iranian pipeline to Europe.


www.nofrackingway.us...



posted on Aug, 21 2014 @ 10:13 AM
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I have a theory about our involvement in the Middle East

I think that Saudi Arabia and other oil rich states have turned to the US as mercenaries to rid themselves of ISIS/ISIL type groups that threaten them.

The US and Americans are seen as the great satan by these radical groups
and so any move by the US incites them and takes their focus
off of the more "stable" oil rich countries.

The US has squelched through environmental policies, pen and phone policies
the development of the vast oil reserves within the US
that exceed all the oil in the ME

Because the US refuses to develop it's own oil reserves
the ME has a stranglehold on the US

If the ME refuses petrodollars
the US economy, while bad now, will collapse overnight
so the Saudi's can threaten the US to do something about ISIS

ISIS/ISIL claims they are doing the will of Allah, Muhammad, and Islam
So for the Islamic countries to stop them could be considered a form of blasphemy according to ISIS supporters and many Muslims
Their only hope is to force the US to do it.


I am certain that the US is now engaged in mercenary activities for the oil rich nations in the ME.

The US wouldn't need the ME, and would not be in their slave like service
if the US developed it's own oil reserves
which liberals/progressives/socialists/environmentalists will not allow




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posted on Aug, 21 2014 @ 10:25 AM
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The person the wrote the article in the OP is a complete idiot. ISIS started in Jordan to remove the the royal family, after assasinating a US diplomat things in Jordan got to hot so the fled to Iraq. In Iraq after seeing the would be of no use and instead a threat Saddam declared them an enemy of the state. They stayed in hiding in the Sunni north. After the US invasion in 2003 they joined with other groups like AlQiada and fought the US in a low level insurgency. When the Syrian civil war started ISIS and othe radical groups went to Syria hoping to topple Assad then defeat the Free Syrian Army (FSA). At firts the FSA and ISIS/radicals fought Assad and avoided each other. As soon as the began to take territory FSA and ISIS/radical forces began to claah over how towns would be run. After the Syria chemical attack the West annouced the would arm and train the FSA. This would make the FSA to powerful for ISIS/radicals to defeat after Assad fell so they stopped attacking Assad and went into open fighting with the FSA. Now Assad and ISIS/radical avoided each other to combine against the FSA.

Meanwhile in Iraq US forces had left and the government showed no signs of including the Kurds or the Sunnis. This lead to the Sunnis and Saddams former Baath Party military members into joing a coalition to take Baghdad. They attacked advanced and were held back unable to get to Baghdad they have been on the defensive in the south since.
At this time the FSA after fighting the combined forces of ISIS/radicals and Assad was licking its wounds after losing territory to both sides. ISIS seeing the FSA threat decline turned on and quickly routed the other radicals. They then moved to hit Assad who was not prepared because they had avoided fighting for so long. The attack spoiled any chance of Syria being able to cooperate with anybody againt ISIS for sometime. With Syria no threat, Iraq to powerful in the South to attack ISIS went north after the Kurds. This lead to direct US intervention on a very limited scale.

So what else is the US going to do? Limited air support will continue and the US will begin to arm the Kurds and the FSA beyond just the token gestures they had made up until this point.

The person who came up with that nonsense article seems desperate to explain why the US would be attacking ISIS if the US created ISIS so they are trying to fabricate some sort of story where the US created ISIS who attacked the US backed FSA and Kurds for some reason. I think he just kind of ignores the fact that the US backed rebels in Syria were winning before ISIS ganged up on them. He is also unable to figure out the large variety of groups in the region, that they have different causes and agendas as happens in real life and just makes everybody in one group or the other like bad novel.



posted on Aug, 21 2014 @ 10:30 AM
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a reply to: MrSpad

I'd quote you but it would fill the page. Thanks for the great education on the ISIS thing.

Kinda, although definitely not directly,

fits in with my theory of the

US being blackmailed

into being mercenaries for the more stable oil rich ME countries.






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posted on Aug, 21 2014 @ 10:34 AM
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a reply to: grandmakdw

US collapsing = EU collapsing = World collapsing, the derivatives bomb which will go off won`t spare much, so it`s not in the interest of those ME countries either. Once the world goes they go too, because no one needs oil anymore, and their heads will be on the line too. It also doesn`t matter what US needs, the US oligarchs trying to make a buck is whats counts.



posted on Aug, 21 2014 @ 10:40 AM
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a reply to: BornAgainAlien

The US oligarchs will suffer with a world wide financial collapse.

I do think that someone (actually worldwide someones) want WWIII

it is a proven way to revive all the economies of the world in the long run.

Evil, yes, will it work, after the war is over certainly.

Is it just the idea of US oligarchs, heck no, world wide oligarchs, there are plenty in other countries, unless one is so narrow minded and bigoted to think that only the US has all the oligarchs of the world.

That doesn't change my opinion of the US being blackmailed into action in the ME
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posted on Aug, 21 2014 @ 10:46 AM
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originally posted by: grandmakdw
a reply to: BornAgainAlien

The US oligarchs will suffer with a world wide financial collapse.

I do think that someone (actually worldwide someones) want WWIII

it is a proven way to revive all the economies of the world in the long run.

Evil, yes, will it work, after the war is over certainly.

Is it just the idea of US oligarchs, heck no, world wide oligarchs, there are plenty in other countries, unless one is so narrow minded and bigoted to think that only the US has all the oligarchs of the world.

That doesn't change my opinion of the US being blackmailed into action in the ME


Which oligarchs are the ones pushing for war ? That should give an answer to the question.

And how in the world is US being blackmailed while they are the ones doing it for ages, it sounds rather strange they are now all of sudden the ones who are getting blackmailed...?



posted on Aug, 21 2014 @ 10:53 AM
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originally posted by: BornAgainAlien

originally posted by: grandmakdw
a reply to: BornAgainAlien

The US oligarchs will suffer with a world wide financial collapse.

I do think that someone (actually worldwide someones) want WWIII

it is a proven way to revive all the economies of the world in the long run.

Evil, yes, will it work, after the war is over certainly.

Is it just the idea of US oligarchs, heck no, world wide oligarchs, there are plenty in other countries, unless one is so narrow minded and bigoted to think that only the US has all the oligarchs of the world.

That doesn't change my opinion of the US being blackmailed into action in the ME


Which oligarchs are the ones pushing for war ? That should give an answer to the question.

And how in the world is US being blackmailed while they are the ones doing it for ages, it sounds rather strange they are now all of sudden the ones who are getting blackmailed...?


The US has been the puppet of Saudi Arabia since the 1970's
if you weren't around then, they pulled quite a number on the US
showing what they could do to the US if they wanted to

The US has been the lackeys of the ME oil rich "stable" countries ever since.
So it is not now all of a sudden.

Once the environmentalists stepped in and threatened the government with losing votes if they developed oil reserves, it was all over. Then the libs and progressives stepped in and joined the environmentalists, making it impossible for any President to develop the vast oil reserves of the US
Leaving the US vulnerable to us oil consortiums in the ME

Those ME oil consortiums flexed their muscles only once, in the 1970's
and that was enough to bring all subsequent administrations
into line, and into being blackmailed
by the ME consortiums

Why do you think the US has bent over backward not to offend the very people who
have tried to terrorize the US population into converting to their religion? OOOOPPPPPSSSS

I need to add that I don't think religion is the goal of the ME consortiums,
it is money,
they were dirt (sand) poor before the oil
they are now filthy rich and love the lavish lifestyles and money
and are willing to do anything, including blackmailing the US
to keep their money

If the US developed its own oil, which environmentalists/libs/progressives will not allow
then the ME would return
to dust (sand)
and we would no longer be vulnerable to their blackmail
But, that won't happen,
so we have to do a figurative, kissing
where the sun don't shine of the ME stable countries.
and have for over 40 years now.


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posted on Aug, 21 2014 @ 11:05 AM
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a reply to: grandmakdw

Let me see, those ME states are sponsoring those rebels, but US has to fight them while they are funded by those states, that doesn`t make sense to me ?



There are two measures if you really want to fight against the Islamic State in a successful way. Measure number one would be to sanction and to punish all those powers that are supporting the Islamic State. This would be Turkey on the one side, and the Gulf States on the other. The other measure would be helping and arming those armies that have been fighting the terrorists for years, and this would be the Syrian army, because it has been fighting this war for three years, and from time to time in a very successful way.


rt.com...



posted on Aug, 21 2014 @ 11:11 AM
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originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: grandmakdw

Let me see, those ME states are sponsoring those rebels, but US has to fight them while they are funded by those states, that doesn`t make sense to me ?



There are two measures if you really want to fight against the Islamic State in a successful way. Measure number one would be to sanction and to punish all those powers that are supporting the Islamic State. This would be Turkey on the one side, and the Gulf States on the other. The other measure would be helping and arming those armies that have been fighting the terrorists for years, and this would be the Syrian army, because it has been fighting this war for three years, and from time to time in a very successful way.


rt.com...


Not all the ME states are funding them.

Also, the ones who are feel they must give at least token funding for the sake of their religion, which is so important to them that their entire governmental structure is built on it,
act like they support their fellow Muslims or face the wrath of "true believers"
(which is why the new White House meme, that ISIS are not Muslims is being spread)

They have to use an outside force to get rid of these dangerous people who probably would cut off selling oil to non-Muslim countries just for religious reasons and therefore ruin the ME entirely.

What better outside force to blackmail into doing their dirty work
than the Great Satan himself? the US



posted on Aug, 21 2014 @ 11:12 AM
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originally posted by: BornAgainAlien

originally posted by: caladonea
a reply to: BornAgainAlien

Do you think our enemies in the Middle East are planning another strike on U.S. soil?

Also...do you think they have been infiltrating the U.S. for many years and may already have an (underground army) in the U.S.?


If it happens, it will be another False Flag (CIA involvement), I would not be surprised if it happens again.


Are you saying that some of their soldiers are undercover CIA?



posted on Aug, 21 2014 @ 11:14 AM
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originally posted by: caladonea

originally posted by: BornAgainAlien

originally posted by: caladonea
a reply to: BornAgainAlien

Do you think our enemies in the Middle East are planning another strike on U.S. soil?

Also...do you think they have been infiltrating the U.S. for many years and may already have an (underground army) in the U.S.?


If it happens, it will be another False Flag (CIA involvement), I would not be surprised if it happens again.


Are you saying that some of their soldiers are undercover CIA?


If my theory is correct,

then by extension

this one is also correct.



edit on 11Thu, 21 Aug 2014 11:20:29 -0500am82108amk214 by grandmakdw because: spelling



posted on Aug, 21 2014 @ 11:20 AM
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ISIS is the product of Saudi based radical Jihadists, akin to the Wahabbist radicals who are completely reliant on the Saudi Royalty for money....

there is a $100 million Mega Mosque on some more than 45 acres due to be completed just outside DC by 2015...
can you connect the dots....ISIS avows to be in the WH as soon as tomorrow...
do you think that the campus of this Mega Mosque won't be bringing radical Jihadists over to Falls Church VA
under 'training programs' to make the ISIS threat a reality in the USA

ISIS just got out-of-hand & Riyadh cannot really control the self-declared Caliph... so they are commanding the Øbama WH to spank the IS-ISIS into a submissive state under the Saudi Royalty

the USA is being obedient to the Saudi' because the USA has failed to make Iran the regions hegemon in secret agreements... even while Turkey is sublimely making political dynamics that undermine the Saudi desire to become the dominate Caliphate in the ME-EurAsian region


Turkish Sufism is the longer term force ... the IS Caliphate will surrender to the Turkish-Iranian Beast that will unite the Sunni-Shia under one flag...



posted on Aug, 21 2014 @ 11:23 AM
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originally posted by: caladonea

originally posted by: BornAgainAlien

originally posted by: caladonea
a reply to: BornAgainAlien

Do you think our enemies in the Middle East are planning another strike on U.S. soil?

Also...do you think they have been infiltrating the U.S. for many years and may already have an (underground army) in the U.S.?


If it happens, it will be another False Flag (CIA involvement), I would not be surprised if it happens again.


Are you saying that some of their soldiers are undercover CIA?


That`s possible.



posted on Aug, 21 2014 @ 11:26 AM
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Growing Mayhem - US Operating on Both Sides of Syrian-Iraqi Border




August 21, 2014 (Tony Cartalucci - LD) - As predicted, the "sudden" appearance of the Islamic State in Syria and Iraq (ISIS) in northern Iraq weeks ago, has created the rhetorical framework within which the United States and its regional partners will attempt to militarily intervene in both Iraq and Syria. Token US airstrikes have already been underway in Iraq, and it is now revealed that US special operation forces have been operating in Syria, under the guise of attempting to rescue abducted and now slain American journalist, James Wright Foley.

With one American journalist, TIME reporter Steven Sotloff, still missing and allegedly being held by ISIS terrorists, further US military incursions into Syrian territory may be attempted under a similar alleged pretense. To further justify expanding across the border and into Syria already ongoing US military operations in Iraq, the Western media has begun claiming that ISIS leadership, "fearing" US airstrikes, are fleeing to safety in neighboring Syria.


landdestroyer.blogspot.ca...





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