Refusing to Watch Foley Video Avoids Exactly What?

originally posted by: deadeyedick
Allowing snuff films to be free and unsensored only gives fuel for someone unknown to make their own and have it live on. It becomes an art form that many will pursue just to have a sick sense of pride. This is not rocket science. Some people get off on this sort of thing. I have to ask if child porno falls under the same sick category for some of you non thinkers.

Completely agree with you and more concerning is the folk that need their "Snuff Movie" fix, what happens if all Online platforms refuse to host such disgusting videos, will these people who relish in these kinds of videos start creating their own?

a reply to: queenofsheba

It's as deeply disturbing as every other violent death i have witnessed, which i'm assuming is more than most of the members on this message board.

a reply to: neo96

On the one hand it give ISIS what they want.

To make people angry.

Out of that anger leads to more war

Wouldn't having the knowledge that ISIS beheaded Foley by the edited version of the MSM cause the same angry reactions as watching the actual video for some?

If not than is it better to sanitize horrific news that could potentially make MARTYR out of @holes, instead of showing the truth how inhumane and psychotic they really are ?

I have watched a "clean" version of it, just to hear what that extremist had to say.
If you are a human being en you can behead another person, there is something seriously wrong with you.

The majority of the human race would faint by the first cut IMO.

But then again, I can barely watch the "walking dead" series...

a reply to: SLAYER69

I don't feel the need to watch it. The man was beheaded......got it. Actually viewing the footage does not help me understand how horrible the act is. Just the fact I know someone did this to him is enough.

Personally, I think seeing these sorts of acts can be damaging to one's psychological well being. I'm a big sensitive guy and I do not want to subject myself to that sort of thing.

a reply to: interupt42

But why the need to place a buffer on what is real? Censorship of any kind is a no no. I'm pretty surprised that there are so many here willing to censor the internet because of the graphic nature of these videos. Again, no one is forcing you to click the link to a video. Why rely on the government yet again to decide what is safe for you to watch? More to the point, why take away the choice to view or not view something from other people based on personal opinion? Censorship sucks, no matter what is being censored.

Should we deny others based on our own experiences?

a reply to: SLAYER69

I wouldn't deny them, but I wouldn't encourage them either.

What concerns me is some may use this video to sate their morbid curiosity and will forget that this man had a name and a family, He wasn't just some NPC from a video game.

a reply to: interupt42

The knowledge ?

Like the Daniel Pearls' before Foley.

Like string and burning American soldiers in Fallujah ?

Like dragging dead bodies of rangers through the streets of Mogadishu.

Like cutting children in half.

Like killing women, and herding them to mountain tops.

They are barbarians.

But the guy who killed Foley was a British national.

Memory serves not to long ago a British soldier was beheaded in their own streets.

Hell even America has it's own 'self radicalized'.

The knowledge is always been around.

Grows by the day.

People have a choice though.

originally posted by: Thecakeisalie

Should we deny others based on our own experiences?

a reply to: SLAYER69

What concerns me is some may use this video to sate their morbid curiosity and will forget that this man had a name and a family,

Anybody that is able to watch those videos and does not see the inhumanity of the beheading and not the suffering the person is going through was already a lost cause regardless of video or not.

He wasn't just some NPC from a video game

IMO Watching the MSM edited version would make it far more likely for people to associate it to a game than actually watching the gruemsome of it and adding the real human factor to it.

Many war veterans come to understand how nobody really wins in a war after they have gone through one.

Overall I'm thinking that each year our society becomes more homogenized and complacent with the ever ramping level of degradation.

This video is just another "mind control" type of propaganda and education.
Think the forced viewing and "education" that was administered in A Clockwork Orange. Images of total nuclear destruction, innocents being killed, etc.

In my opinion I think the more you look at what they show you or inject what they say can help you, the more you realize that your being "updated". Your DNA genetics are somehow altered and most likely your vibrations are affected.

The thing is...

Everytime someone watches a video about anything, it glorifies the person that did the video and the one that posted it. When a kind of video gets popular, many will immitate it or post similar videos because almost eeeeeveryone on the internet wants some kind of popularity...Good, bad, I don't care just talk about ME.

The more people look at beheading videos, the more there will be...
And when everything has been seen, what's next?
...to make a beheading video of course!

Psychologically, naming murderers and making them popular is directly fuelling others to do the same which is why we should stop giving any form of publicity and glory to these types of people/events.

''I might be a loser that no-one knows being myself, but everyone will know my name after I become a murderer.''

originally posted by: Glassbender777
It will be Forever burned into your brain, a Memory that No one should ever go looking for. The act of beheading can be a clean death, Guillitene. Just not the way these guys perform it, using a 3 inch butter knife. I swore to never watch another beheading video, as long as i live, It something id rather not have in my memory

I have one in my memory, some kid triumphantly showed me a clip on his cellphone...and it's burned in my mind 'til this day. Won't look at any more by choice, and hope the day will never come that I'll have to witness atrocities like this in reallife. Damn, how much all the people in warzones must be traumatized...incredible, how can a man endure it.

We are all going to die, the question in each of our minds from a possible morbid curiosity, or maybe even a fearful perspective is...how will death come to each of us?

The deaths of other people does not answer that question for us. We know that like others who have died we will stop breathing, thinking, and become nothing but a physical body for the decay process, or another job for a mortician. I believe most of us would want to die, after a long and productive and happy life, painlessly and in our sleep.

Of course, many around the world do not get that option. Natural disasters, war, disease, accidents, and crime bring death to many and snuff out their existence in appalling ways at all ages. Would you want your death filmed and made available for the world to see, or would you want your final moments in the private presence of your loved ones, surrounded by dignity and empathy?

Foley may have known about the potential dangers his job brought him into contact with, but that does not equate to anyone being able state such an obvious conclusion as if it was his fault...like he deserved the manner of death that came to him. He didn't deserve it. He didn't shoot people with a gun in the conflicts he covered, he shot them with a camera, relaying the truth and the awful tragedy that war is. He was neutral in his reporting, yet remained a target for an animal that talked with the civilised tongue and accent of Britain.

Death didn't come to him naturally, it was delivered to him by a knife sharpened by a sickening and barbaric ideology our contemporary times left behind centuries ago. Foley wasn't killed because of any particular mythical deity he might have prayed to, or worshipped, he was killed as a propaganda tool, and because he was American. As far as IS (or ISIS) are concerned, all westerners walk around with the words 'cut here' along their throats, and they are very eager to oblige.

There is nothing to understand about a beheading video, nothing at all, all the understanding you need is in the very word...'beheaded'. The way Foley was murdered has nothing whatsoever to do with warfare. The only thing to understand about Foley's death is why he was murdered, not the how? If any of you are so curious as to want to understand a beheading video, as some of you have claimed, then by all means, volunteer your own throat and head, you'll get all the understanding you want from direct experience, but as soon as the knife begins to saw into your flesh, you'll wish you hadn't been so curious.

I hope they capture the animal who killed Foley, dead or alive, I couldn't care less. Here in Britain, IS members and supporters are going to have to tread very carefully.

a reply to: SLAYER69

How bout this?

Viewings of this nature, while not good table conversation,
are a piece of cake for me. Seeing someones head come off
happens in slow mo at the movies everyday. And I've even
become video game desensitized.

So I'll take 10 mins, clearing
my mind of any bias and /or preconceived notions. I've not
viewed the video at all. Not any version not one frame. So
I'll need to know where to find it unedited. I'll view it once
and immediately render my initial reaction, feelings, thoughts
and conclusions here?

I can't hold back mentioning that I think this Foley guy died as a coward. Did he really think reading that script was going to save his life?
He could have still gotten on his feet and delivered a final head butt blow and spat on the piece of human garbage who didn't even have the cajones to show his face. No guts, no glory.

a reply to: skunkape23

Well the video in question does cut away right as the cutting begins, for all we know he realized they were really going to do it this time and tried to fight only after they finished it then they showed the final result with his head resting on his body.


He could have fought like hell and they simply edited it out of the final released copy

originally posted by: SLAYER69
a reply to: skunkape23

Well the video in question does cut away right as the cutting begins, for all we know he realized they were really going to to it this time and tried to fight and only after then they showed the final result with his head resting on his body.


He could have fought like hell and they simply edited it out of the final released copy

Didn't consider that. I hope such is the case.

I have seen the gore of a person killed in an auto accident, and it is something that I never want to see again. I think the more that you would see these types of actual blood and guts, the more desensitized you would become to it....mankind must move away from this form of gore-porn

a reply to: SLAYER69


I'm sure it's already been discussed, but why would I want to watch it? I don't watch videos of street fights either, or of "knock out games" or anything of the sort. Too much negativity in my mind will surely have a bad effect upon my persona. Am I right?

As this is ATS I can have pretty odd convictions about not watching this. For one I don't have morbid curiosities - I don't need to watch this to let myself know how f*cked it is or to understand what's happening in the world at the moment. It's hard enough to stay positive, for me, without acknowledging the obvious push for a never ending religious crusade nearly 14 years after 9/11/2001 in what we jokingly call the 'modern' age (while we still have one foot in the dark ages via religion IMO) - I just don't want any part of it and I just don't want to be directed like that. I also don't want anything like that in my head as I think it is playing to 'their' hand in a way. It's like a form of energy harvesting IMO. I think 'they' want you to watch it ('they' being a very blanket term for a conspiracy website lol). So much negative in the digital age 24/7/365 can have horrible effects on the mind and I already think it's driving humans mad because they can't handle the influx of information/emotion - and that's without watching video logged decapitations.

Attention is power - and many people (not just ISIS/ISIL) can use that against us for reasons we may not be aware of at all until it's too late.

Or I'm just a wuss that would rather not watch a guy get his head cut off with a knife just because that seems like a psychotic thing to do (and watch).