No Pigeons, No Seagulls in Halifax; No Sparrows in Ireland; What about Manhattan?

i used to be annoyed by all the many birds outside in the morning
now it is silent!!!
a walk in the wood somehow felt evil to me and i could not make out what was causing this feeling until i noticed the lack of bird sounds
ALL plants show signs of sickness: hanging leafs,small leafs,inhomogeneous leafs and mutations and discolorations as well as hanging branches and some trees at a walkway down the river even look snow white from some kind of mold or fungus i have never seen before and i been on this way hundreds of times during all my life
my aunt just told me a few weeks back that no birds came to visit the bird feeding house she put up
the only birds i see are crows and great tits (yes great tits they are called like that)
beware something is broken

I have 3 bird feeders here in C. Texas.
We have all the usual suspects.Plenty
of sparrows.

I agree with the previous poster from Ireland,

Not noticing any decline in sparrows or any other birds here at least where I am anyway, Northern Ireland, but I think we would be seeing it reported in our local media if there was such a large decline.

originally posted by: nOraKat
I have lived in NYC my entire life.

You are correct in that there has been a massive reduction in the population of pigeons here in NYC. There used to be pigeons everywhere. Massive flocks in Central Park, all the boroughs, and huge flocks flying around. Now you see only small groups here and there.

However it the reduction has not coincided with Fukushima. It began many years before that.

I often wonder what the cause was. I thought that maybe it was due to the introduction of birds of prey to Manhattan. I also noticed birds of prey flying around in outer borough parks.

It is active control of pigeons in NY. Pigeons makes tons of mess, have fleas, and carry Germans. What they are doing in NY is to make buildings pigeon unfriendly and building dovecotes in the parks for the displaced pigeons. They also put dummy eggs in the dovecotes to reduce breeding. So there you have it, a great mystery solved.

Moral of the story? Learn to fly and crap all over the populace, and you will be given a nice new house in the country, F.O.C.

originally posted by: thevace
i used to be annoyed by all the many birds outside in the morning
now it is silent!!!
a walk in the wood somehow felt evil to me and i could not make out what was causing this feeling until i noticed the lack of bird sounds
ALL plants show signs of sickness: hanging leafs,small leafs,inhomogeneous leafs and mutations and discolorations as well as hanging branches and some trees at a walkway down the river even look snow white from some kind of mold or fungus i have never seen before and i been on this way hundreds of times during all my life
my aunt just told me a few weeks back that no birds came to visit the bird feeding house she put up
the only birds i see are crows and great tits (yes great tits they are called like that)
beware something is broken

It's been about 10 weeks since I have been out and about at dawn, and, at that time, I was more concerned about catching a bus than taking a bird census.

However, today, I made a point of stepping out at dawn to take a walk around the area. There was no morning chirping nor any other evidence of birds... nothing.

There is much greenery here, and with one exception, it is all in very healthy shape.

Some squirrels that I used to see and which seemed to be restricted to just one area are no more.

Tell me about the clouds in your area. Do they seem to be normal? I'd like to know if there may be some connection between a dearth of birds and abnormal cloud formations.

P.M.

a reply to: theworldisnotenough

So did you bother to watch the webcam stream I linked earlier in this thread?

I have, while I've been sitting here. I've seen Gulls and several other birds that I couldn't make out the species of them, bobbing in the water, sitting on the docks and the surrounding area.

originally posted by: GAOTU789
a reply to: theworldisnotenough

So did you bother to watch the webcam stream I linked earlier in this thread?

I have, while I've been sitting here. I've seen Gulls and several other birds that I couldn't make out the species of them, bobbing in the water, sitting on the docks and the surrounding area.

I looked at it, but it appeared to be a still picture.

P.M.

originally posted by: theworldisnotenough

originally posted by: BGTM90

originally posted by: theworldisnotenough

originally posted by: yourmaker
On the other hand I wake up every morning to sound of a thousand birds in the trees around my house in metro vancouver on the pacific coast.

Then again I live in a rainforest with massive trees surrounding my city.

But yeah, tons of birds here. Much variety. Can hear birds right now through my windows honestly lol

Also, radiation readings for the East Coast show higher radioactivity than for the West Coast.

P.M.

Source please.

If I remember correctly, Alex Jones mentioned the higher levels of radiation on the East Coast in one of his Youtube videos.

You can also check the radiation readings on the map at netc.com. Unfortunately, a few weeks ago, the website proprietor decided to delete a number of reading stations from the map, but it should still serve the purpose to show that many readings for the East Coast exceed many readings for the West Coast.

P.M.

Although I'm happy that you provided a source at my request and I thank you, I have a couple of issues with it. First Alex Jones saying something on a youtube video does not make it true so lets move on to the next one that seems more legitimate. Now these could be accurate reading and Im not completely dismissing it but there are a few issues. First I noticed that there were no actual readings just icons so I went to the question section to see what they meant exactly and found this from the site administrator:

Netc.com was design only for telling the public if the radiation is increasing over a calculated period of time and not to set any criteria for radiation danger level. . . .
Netc.com design is a tracking, early warning radiation system, not a medical danger system.

So it seems that they do not show actual levels of radiation but just when it is rising or not. Also I could not find the spatial pattern of the detectors they use or the set up. You should use at least two detectors to make sure one is not malfunctioning. Also if these detectors are located near a nuclear power plant or medical facility they might not be giving an accurate representation of a general area. It's a good start but maybe we can find a source that gives actual readings or maybe even isotopic composition test that can actually be tied to Fukushima.

originally posted by: theworldisnotenough
Tell me about the clouds in your area. Do they seem to be normal? I'd like to know if there may be some connection between a dearth of birds and abnormal cloud formations.

chemtrails all day everyday
the area is in proximity to an airport and got a air corridor right above
sometimes i even see as much as 5 or more planes dropping.
the weather is crazy and too cold. sun hours way down.
when the sun comes out it feels very strong and burning still almost never manages to break away cloud cover
cut hedge has not grown back one bit for 3 weeks and across the street its the same
fukushima,too much sun radiation/ozone failure? i dont know but what i can see with my own eyes is the constant spraying
nearly no wasps this summer or bees on the lavender usualy packed with them was covered in bumblebees this year
no sound of birds in the morning and in the evening its the same
i wake up in the morning the first thing i do is listen and then my heart feels like it crumbles when i realize its still silence
this is bad

here is an article from today :
Familiar bird songs missing on woods walk
www.titusvilleherald.com...

originally posted by: GAOTU789
a reply to: theworldisnotenough

I'm East Coast Canada and I can tell you that the gulls, pigeons, owls, hummingbirds, blue jays, sparrows, crows, ravens, doves, eagles, hawks and plenty of other species of bird are all well and good. There was a large gathering of Gulls in a field very near to where I was at tonight in Moncton.

I've traveled to two other provinces on the East Coast this summer as well and seen plenty of different birds species.

I actually recognize the guys voice in the video from the talk radio shows here on the East Coast. I'd take what he says with a large grain of salt but that's up to you.

If you'd like, here's a link to a Nova Scotia Webcam site that shows Halifax Harbour. Check it tomorrow for a while and see what you see.

www.novascotiawebcams.com...

I'm going to back up GAOTU789. In the past month I have been all over Nova Scotia, from Cape Breton to Truro, and I reside in Halifax regional municipality. There is no lack of birds that I have seen, and there were seagulls all over the place in Antigonish and Guysborough county, hawks, eagles, as well as all the regular songbirds. If there were anything wrong with the Harbour at Halifax, I think there would be dead fish found first, or the starfish would disappear. Only thing annoying me this summer is an abundance of jellyfish. If there is an issue in Halifax, and locals will tell you... It's because the harbour is a garbage dump, not because of radiation from Japan. I hate fear porn with no basis..or logic.

originally posted by: AccessDenied
...It's because the harbour is a garbage dump, not because of radiation from Japan. I hate fear porn with no basis..or logic.

there is no harbor here anywhere here and the nature used to be fine now its a mess and the birds are missing its freakin silent!!! i dont say this has reached/affected all parts on the world but here where i lived all my life the birds are gone and the plants are wrecked
only fear porn? no! i really wish this would not be real because it is stressing me out a lot this is no fear porn this is fear because i see extreme changes to fauna and flora that have never been there before

Declines in Urban areas of various bird species is primarily due to the fact that there are bloody millions of the lazy persons pet.......yes a Cat.
With a more concentrated population and therefore a more density of urban domesticated cats then it has been shown in various studies that the 'natural' wildlife is decimated in those areas......

Be More Dog in my opinion and hugely increase taxation on cat ownership.....

Regards

PDUK

i was hand feeding some young magpies the other day whilst taking my old dog to the local beach...these little guys swooped down and started chirping at me while i was eating my roll with my morning coffee...so i shared and they were happy....

oh and i agree with PDUK higher taxes for cat owners

Middle/western Canada here and yes the birds used to start their morning chirps at around 3 a.m. Now the skies are silent.
There are crows in town now, lots of them, and hawks where you never used to see them.
Saw 2 different types of butterflies this summer, aside from the white cabbage moth.
Not the only one saying it around here.
Friends at the lake report the same thing - they said the silence at the lake was deafening this year.
Funny (not funny) thing is the media won't touch it.

originally posted by: AccessDenied
a reply to: theworldisnotenough
If there is an issue in Halifax, and locals will tell you... It's because the harbour is a garbage dump, not because of radiation from Japan. I hate fear porn with no basis..or logic.

You talk about the gargage dump nature of the harbor repelling the birds.

Well, I have seen many photographic and video depictions of garbage dump/landfills showing flocks of seagulls swarming over and feeding on such things.

If anything, the harbor should attract birds, not repel them.

P.M.

Well, I was out and about on foot earlier today, and there were no birds – none, zero.

I have been so fixed on the huge, oddball cloud formations in the sky here that it did not occur to me until the Halifax video that I haven't witnessed any birds flying solo, in formation or in flocks. To recap: to the best of my recollection, I saw two seagulls in a parking lot and three, maybe four, ibis feeding solo in various grassy areas; that's been it over the course of quite a few months .

I did visit an upscale shore area a number of miles away a couple of months ago. I was so mesmerized by the beauty of the high-rise condo buildings, hotels, and landscaping, which did not exist years ago when I last visited, that I did not pay attention to birds or lack thereof. As best I can remember, there were no birds there.

At another waterfront location, I went as far as the foot of a major pier. I wish that I had walked the length of that pier, but even so, I don't remember seeing any birds there.

A friend drove me through the parking lot of a very scenic public beach which was visible from the car. I remember no birds there, either.

I'd truly like to revisit these locations to pay closer attention to the situations, but the summer heat is just too oppressive as is public transit.

You know what else should be a major concern – and I have written about this years ago before Fukushima but well after innumerable nuclear bomb tests?

What I am getting at is the virtual extinction of exceptionally goodlooking people.

From where I came and to where I have relocated, both had been noteworthy as being wonderlands of incredibly goodlooking people of both genders.

From where I came, I did not see any exceptionally goodlooking females. I saw maybe three exceptionally goodlooking men, but none in the last four years or so.

Currently, here, I have seen, over many months, zero goodlooking males, let alone exceptionally goodlooking ones. I did see two females whose looks rated honorable mention, and oddly enough I saw them together at the same time working behind the same counter. That was it, period.

Granted, I still see exceptionally goodlooking women on television like on "The Price Is Right" (ON STAGE, not in the audience) or on certain televised news shows, but you won't see them in the general population.

Exceptionally goodlooking males are virtually absent even on TV and in movies... certainly not like things were in the more distant past.

While the number of physically high-quality people has gone down precipitously, the number of "irregulars" (to be kind about it) has gone way, way up both mentally and physically.

P.M.

originally posted by: theworldisnotenough

originally posted by: AccessDenied
a reply to: theworldisnotenough
If there is an issue in Halifax, and locals will tell you... It's because the harbour is a garbage dump, not because of radiation from Japan. I hate fear porn with no basis..or logic.

You talk about the gargage dump nature of the harbor repelling the birds.

Well, I have seen many photographic and video depictions of garbage dump/landfills showing flocks of seagulls swarming over and feeding on such things.

If anything, the harbor should attract birds, not repel them.

P.M.

I said, IF there was an issue in the Harbour, and by garbage dump, I meant full of crap..not a landfill.I have heard of raw sewage making it's way into there...how would that affect them?Industrial chemical soup? Lost in translation.My point was, I was living on the coast further up from Halifax, with no lack of birds at all. In fact there was an amazing abundance. Not just gulls,but I had yellow finches,ducks,Canada geese, hummingbirds,sparrows, chickadees, crows, robins,bald eagles,chimney swifts, and at least one owl.Now inland, and I'm still surrounded by birds, even a lovely pair of loons fly over to their nest in a nearby lake. Just because a few do not see any birds when they spend a short time outside, is no reason to sound the alarm. I'm outside all the time, early morning, and evenings as well,and I have noticed no change in any area of the province I have been in.Not to mention, I have also noticed a large increase in bees...although I relocated, both yards were covered daily with a myriad of bees, wasps. Almost like this year they bounced back in numbers,or are expecting a harsh winter and more active. Blame that on Fukushima too? Not sure what you are going on about with your last post and linking "exceptionally good looking men and women"...but I figured I may as well throw in the bees with the birds.

here is a very troubling scientist report from today
they did all kinds of studies and bird counts are also down and its a lie that chernobyl area is fine as well!

Timothy A. Mousseau: "Fukushima Catastrophe and its Effects on Wildlife" :
www.youtube.com...

originally posted by: theworldisnotenough

I did visit an upscale shore area a number of miles away a couple of months ago. I was so mesmerized by the beauty of the high-rise condo buildings, hotels, and landscaping, which did not exist years ago when I last visited, that I did not pay attention to birds or lack thereof. As best I can remember, there were no birds there.

At another waterfront location, I went as far as the foot of a major pier. I wish that I had walked the length of that pier, but even so, I don't remember seeing any birds there.

A friend drove me through the parking lot of a very scenic public beach which was visible from the car. I remember no birds there, either.

This just came to mind.

When I visited the above mentioned sites, I can tell you for a fact that there were no pelicans there.

I can also tell you for a fact that there used to be pelicans in those places, and if there currently were ones to be seen, I'd certainly make a mental note of it.

I will tell you why.

When I was a child, my family took me on a trip to visit my uncle who lived in these parts.

I was fishing with my uncle off the dock of his apartment complex.

I cast my line, and I snagged a pelican that took off simultaneously.

If I saw pelicans, now, many years later, I'd remember it.

P.M.

a reply to: theworldisnotenough

Well, today, about one hour after dawn, I stepped out for a long walk down the main road, and I did see birds.

The road is very wide and considering the vast expanse of sky that I could observe, I'd have to say that the sightings of birds in flight were few and far between.

There were some notable observations.

Most of the birds were flying solo, and most birds were flying from south to north.

There were what I believe to be seven seagulls that were sort of flying together. I say "sort of" because the first three were flying loosely in a group. These were followed by another loose group of three. There was a seventh bird flying at a distance off to the right of the first group. Then significantly later, an eighth gull was flying solo.

There was a minor cluster of four birds that were black perched high on power lines. Back from where I came, it was not unusual to see 200 or more birds together on power lines. There were other lone birds on the power lines elsewhere like off the main road and on the side roads, but these, too, were few and far between.

On returning in the opposite direction, I saw even fewer birds. I saw three birds to my left that I believe to have been seagulls flying north in a line. Also, to my right, there were about six or seven birds (black) that were flying north loosely in a group.

I saw nothing that could be considered formation, like a typical "V" formation which I have seen so many times where I used to live.

That's about it for now.

P.M.