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originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Semicollegiate
That's a wonderful story and a drastic oversimplification but how else could you come up with such a linear explanation of the modern world as: capitalism -> Industrial revolution -> The Internet
Capitalism is just one part of the context of the Industrial Revolution. Where would capitalism be without globalization and globalization without colonization? There'd have been no Industrial Revolution(s) (if you even favor using the label) without the Scientific Revolution or all the advancements it spawned (metallurgy, steam power, chemistry etc etc). Of course there's no Scientific Revolution OR capitalism without the Enlightenment.
You could also say that a decline in religiosity gave rise to the Internet, that's perhaps a more true statement. I get it though — 19th century America being the closest example of pure laissez-faire capitalism, you want to ascribe what you see as the benefits to American society as being directly dependent upon it.
However, you can't prove:
1. That the Industrial Revolution would have been been any more or less transformative under a modern mixed economy. (or a completely non-capitalist system for that matter).
2. That without the social changes occurring during and after the Industrial Revolution, that it would have ever led to an appreciable increase in the standard of living for the average person let alone our modern lifestyle, including the Internet.
Who knows we could have all ended up company slaves living in company houses in company towns and working for company scrip to spend at the company store?
Passengers were astounded at first to exceed 15 miles per hour; alarmists expressed fear that the human body could not withstand such velocities, and some men took out pencil and paper and wrote coherent sentences as they whizzed along to prove that the brain could function at speeds near 20 miles per hour.
originally posted by: buster2010
This is what happens when you allow the elite to buy the government and then create conditions that allows them to profit off the poor. Capitalism is what caused this mess not Socialism. Seeing how the minimum wage has been virtually stagnant since the 80's and has not even kept up with the standard of living increases it is no surprise that more people are on government aid in one way or another. Companies keep crying we can't afford to pay workers more while upper management wages keep going through the roof. But as usual you will have people blaming the poor for this and say nothing about those who profit from it.
originally posted by: InverseLookingGlass
originally posted by: Mirthful Me
109,631,000 Americans lived in households that received benefits from one or more federally funded "means-tested programs" — also known as welfare — as of the fourth quarter of 2012, according to data released Tuesday by the Census Bureau.
When those receiving benefits from non-means-tested federal programs — such as Social Security, Medicare, unemployment and veterans benefits — were added to those taking welfare benefits, it turned out that 153,323,000 people were getting federal benefits of some type at the end of 2012.
There's no doubt that this dependent class has done nothing but increase in size since 2012. The only thing that will end this socialist bloat is it's eventual collapse under it's own weight when there are too few people actually working and producing to tax and prop up this horrific blight. This government hand out dependence may ensure socialist victories over the next few election cycles, but may spell the end of our once great republic.
I see little hope of correcting this political malfeasance and saving this great, no, this extraordinary experiment that was ingeniously crafted and corrupted by graft and misguided largesse... The disease is set to run it's course now that critical mass has been reached..
Anybody buying this garbage? I'm not. 2-3 CEO bonuses could cover food stamps for the whole nation. 1 year of the Iraq war could cover welfare easily. Critical mass? A vast majority of these people are apolitical and don't even vote.
$78 billion? Sure sounds like that is a greater sum than $5.2 billion, 131.2 million, and certainly more than a couple bonuses... Even to someone encumbered by a public education?
CEO compensation in total is chump change compared to "food stamps" (SNAP)