a reply to: grandmakdw
I think I need to quote some verses from the Qu'ran to back up what I said... What must also be remembered is that the word of Allah or God is most
high in Islam. So the teachings of Islam come before anything else including Politics.. Most of what I will quote I have already quoted in previous
Islamic stance towards Christians
"Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians -- whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does good,
they shall have their reward from their Lord. And there will be no fear for them, nor shall they grieve"
"...and nearest among them in love to the believers will you find those who say, 'We are Christians,' because amongst these are men devoted to
learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant" (5:82).
Islam simply teaches that believing Christians are as righteous as a believing Muslim... There should be no push or threat to kill Christians if they
do not convert to Islam. This is an ideology that has come from outside of the Qu'ran.
But with that also, a justification must be found for ISIS in the first place when it comes to the Qu'ran, they proclaim to be fighting for Allah and
Mohammad but what does Mohammad say about war?
Rules of war
[2:190] You may fight in the cause of GOD against those who attack you, but do not aggress. GOD does not love the aggressors.
[2:191] You may kill those who wage war against you, and you may evict them whence they evicted you. Oppression is worse than murder. Do not fight
them at the Sacred Masjid, unless they attack you therein. If they attack you, you may kill them. This is the just retribution for those
[2:192] If they refrain, then GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful.
[2:193] You may also fight them to eliminate oppression, and to worship GOD freely. If they refrain, you shall not aggress; aggression is permitted
only against the aggressors.
*2:190 All fighting is regulated by the basic rule in 60:8-9. Fighting is allowed strictly in self-defense, while aggression and oppression are
strongly condemned throughout the Quran.
[5:87] O you who believe, do not prohibit good things that are made lawful by GOD, and do not aggress; GOD dislikes the aggressors.
[8:61] If they resort to peace, so shall you, and put your trust in GOD. He is the Hearer, the Omniscient.
[4:90] ... if they leave you alone, refrain from fighting you, and offer you peace, then GOD gives you no excuse to fight them.
Going by these verses ISIS have no justification to do what they are doing through the teachings of the Qu'ran. Everything above is something they
have committed against not only the Iraqi people but the people of Syria also. When we can understand these teachings it's very easy to conclude that
ISIS are not only a false sect of Islam but a Satanic cult posing as an Islamic movement.
There are many other quotes/verses that also prove that ISIS are just a bunch of thugs who are serving the interests of themselves and nothing more.
Another topic that should be brought up is their creation and the influence from outside the Muslim world. Though the Qu'ran explains that Christians
and Jews can be righteous, it also touches upon the issue of forming alliances with them.
This is another proof from the Qu'ran that ISIS are not Islamic and the very religion they believe they are following has actually disowned them
because of their unrighteous actions.
"O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors; they are but friends and protectors to each other. And
he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust. (5:51)"
The things that appeal to me are
- Do not take them as your friends and protectors
- Allah does not guide unjust people.
In the above Noble Verses, the Arabic word for "friends" is "Awliyaa", which has four literal meanings: (1) Allies; (2) Friends; and (3) Guardians.
In Noble Verse 60:13, the Arabic word used was "tatawallu", which is derived from the root word "Awliyaa".
This is simply speaking about Christians and Jews who would be considered unrighteous also remembering that the Qu'ran also praises the righteous from
these two religions. So who could an unrighteous Christian or Jew be? Well start with the secular system and you will find that it is these people who
have armed and weaponized ISIS to commit the atrocities they have in Syria and Iraq.
Because of ISIS simply taking these weapons etc from the West, they are automatically disowned from the Islamic faith. What they have done is against
Islam and what they are currently doing in Iraq is not justified through the teachings of Islam.
ISIS are Satanist's who are pretty much eradicating innocent Muslims and Christians who have done nothing to deserve the treatment they are. Along
with the above there are many other verses that prove ISIS are not Islamic fighters. Again the only time a Muslim can fight or even launch a war is
when they themselves are the victim of aggression or attacked.
And If you want to know where all the other unjust Muslims are, just find any Islamic nation that has military alliances with Western countries. They
also fall under the same and this is probably part of the reason why they sit back and do nothing while innocent peoplecontinue to be slaughtered.
Islamic rules of war
Islam and Non-Muslims
Truth will always prevail over falsehood...
Also, the Kurds are a perfect example of what is taught in the Qu'ran. They are attacking the aggressors.
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