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Not quite.
The council in Crimea did not recognise the coup that ousted Yanukovych and the referendum was a direct result of that.
Can you blame them?
You know the geo-politics of the area and why Russia is involved. You also know why the USA is involved...enough said.
originally posted by: DJW001
6. A referendum is hastily held. It does not include "independence" as an option, depriving Ukrainian citizens who wish for an independent Crimean Republic of their rights.
7. The vote count totals to over 100%, indicating fraud.
why you believe the United States is involved and what you believe their goals are?
originally posted by: Flatcoat
a reply to: DJW001
The vote count totals to over 100%, indicating fraud.
Seriously? This garbage again??
originally posted by: midicon
a reply to: MrSpad
It's a pity all those non existent Russian soldiers are not around to train them. What do you expect in such a situation...highly trained troops. The rebels are not soldiers just people with weapons...he is saying they are not used to them. But you knew that anyway.
I think they are popular...and they do have local support...they are the local people. It is just easier for people like you to create the idea of division by suggesting otherwise.
originally posted by: DJW001
originally posted by: Flatcoat
a reply to: DJW001
The vote count totals to over 100%, indicating fraud.
Seriously? This garbage again??
Sorry, you're right:
www.forbes.com... for-annexation/
Only a minority voted to join Russia.
I think they are popular...and they do have local support...they are the local people. It is just easier for people like you to create the idea of division by suggesting otherwise.
On 17 August, in the evening, the SMM monitored two rallies in the city centre of Kharkiv, one pro-unity, the other pro-federalism. Around 250 predominantly young people participating in the first event gathered in the centre of Liberty square, holding Ukrainian, Civil Self-Defence and Svoboda party flags. Posters read: ‘We are self-government’; ‘End corruption’; ‘Pay your taxes, serve the country and help our soldiers!’ They collected money for soldiers serving in Donbas as well as for IDPs. Around UAH 15,000 (approximately 860 Euro) was raised, according to organizers. At the same time around 100 supporters of federalism in Ukraine, mainly elderly women, gathered near the Lenin statue and called for peace in Donbas. A cordon of around 50 police separated both groups. Both rallies were non-violent.
originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: midicon
Same sort of goals as in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria...global dominance in all areas.
In case you have not noticed, the United States has no control over Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya or Syria. Try again.
Of course Ukraine always blames the Rebels i am still waiting for proof that they destroyed a bunch of Russian aid convoy trucks.
Alexander Zakharchenko, prime minister of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic, said the rebels were in the process of receiving some 150 armoured vehicles, including 30 tanks, and 1,200 fighters who he said had spent four months training in Russia.
According to you America is innocent and has no control of the problems which it has created in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya or Syria even though evidence says otherwise.
In case you have not noticed, the United States has no control over Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya or Syria. Try again.