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posted on Aug, 18 2014 @ 06:36 AM
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Hello ATS,

I was approached a few days ago by my wife's cousin trying to get us to enroll/join Amway. They came over, without us knowing why they wanted to meet with us of course, to make their "presentation!

Although it all seems nice and lovely and easy to make a fortune, I am not stupid. I feel like this could be a scam, and I have a REALLY bad feeling about this so I will definitely not be joining but I am currious about other's feedback.

Please refrain from posting opinions, as I know that opinions will vary from one person to another...What I am looking for is facts and experiences from people who have actually worked in Amway as an IBO or have been approached by a rep.

Thanks all!

Teye22




posted on Aug, 18 2014 @ 06:48 AM
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My father in law sold Amway for years and made damn good money doing it. Of course he's one of those people that can sell ice to an Eskimo, so your results may vary. I haven't used their products in quite a long time, but when I did they were quality products.

It's hard these days to sell anything door to door. If you are a people person Amway may be a good choice to bring in a little extra money.



It's not a scam (at least it wasn't) as far as scams go. There is real money to be made if you are a good enough salesman and put in the effort to move your product.



posted on Aug, 18 2014 @ 06:53 AM
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a reply to: Teye22
Similar experience.
It has come a long way from the old days, didn't go for it twenty years ago and didn't go for it this time. They are now using the internet to sell their stuff in Australia and are getting into normal products to get you in.
"but you buy these products anyway, why not buy them through our distribution network and get rewarded for it?'

If it wasn't dodgy why are they so reluctant to mention the word 'Amway' until nearly the end of their presentation or unless you directly ask them to say it!!!!



posted on Aug, 18 2014 @ 07:30 AM
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a reply to: Teye22
I have had two encounters with them.

At one stage of my life, the owner of the house I lived in had been brought into them.
He had a tape of an "inspirational talk", which I listened to. The man was exactly like an evangelistic preacher. It was a kind of religion in which "showing the plan" took the place of "presenting the gospel".
"So I sat in the seat next to him and showed him the plan, and at the end of the flight..."
"I always say that if I haven't shown them the plan, then they haven't been shown the plan" (whooping and cheers from appreciative audience).

Later on, somebody at work invited me to a group meeting, making a mystery about what the group was. I hoped it would be some kind of weird sect, which would add to my knowledge of weird sects. It turned out to be Amway. A visitor gave a little talk (for my benefit, in fact, because I appeared to be the only person there who hadn't already joined up).
What I gleaned was that you don't get real money from selling things. You get real money by recruiting the people who sell things. You get even more by recruiting the people who recruit the people who sell things. If you want real wealth, you must recruit the people who recruit the people who recruit the people who recruit the people...
As I understood it, explaining to someone how this pyramid works and how you get rich by sitting on top of it was what they meant by the phrase "showing the plan".

Yes, I think it's an outright case of "pyramid selling" (I forget the American term).
Only the ruthless stand a chance of getting anything out of it.
I would stay well back.



edit on 18-8-2014 by DISRAELI because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 18 2014 @ 07:48 AM
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a reply to: Teye22
I did the Amway thing for quite some time, many years ago. I got to know a lot of people, from the bottom to the emeralds and diamonds. Yes, money can be made selling Amway products. But that isn't what Amway is about. Amway is about proselytizing. Plain and simple. That's what those above you will be pushing you to do. Because the more you bring into the fold, the higher you push those above you.

At the time, I was a Christian, so I didn't mind hearing all the "sermons" about Amway, god, and Jesus mixed. Now it would drive me insane. I can tell you, no one gets to that first rung easily. A lot of people I met had been at it for a long time, and still hadn't gotten that trip to Hawaii, or whatever they're promising now. So don't hold your breath.

One of the motto's of Amway is, "You can sleep when you die." That should tell you something.

I know you said you didn't want personal opinions, but I'm going to give you mine, anyway. In my years as a Christian, I dealt with more than one cult, and its members. In my opinion, Amway qualifies as one of the biggest cults in this country(USA). Don't believe me? Join, and you'll find out.

But personally, I'd run the other way as fast as you can.

ETA:

Amway this morning announced a deal to pay $34 million in cash and provide $22 million worth of products to settle a 2007 class-action suit alleging the company and some of its top-level distributors operate an illegal pyramid scheme.


The suit alleged the company used unfair and illegal business practices that mislead distributors about their ability to make money and how much it would cost to be part of the business.


In their letter to employees, DeVos and Van Andel said Amway has addressed many of the concerns raised by those who filed the case and others who have criticized the business as being heavily weighted toward finding new recruits and sales of "tools" or "business support materials" such as motivational tapes, books and seminars.

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posted on Aug, 18 2014 @ 07:57 AM
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originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: Teye22
I did the Amway thing for quite some time, many years ago. I got to know a lot of people, from the bottom to the emeralds and diamonds. Yes, money can be made selling Amway products.



I'll say!

I saw two of their family yachts in Tortola.

One was larger than the British warship next to it.



posted on Aug, 18 2014 @ 08:50 AM
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Thanks for all the replies, keep 'em coming!

It's really funny how some people get brainwashed so deeply that they don't even reallize that they are being arrogant and condescending when they are talking to you...and they are your own friends and family, I find them really pushy and that is a big turn off for me. If you try to force something on me, it could be the most legit thing on this Earth but I will turn my back to it.

I already knew while starting this thread that I would not go for it, This was mainly to see if any one had anecdotes as I do beleive they (amway reps) lead people with false promises for a fast fortune, I read a lot of various comments online and you can tell when someone is brainwashed or simply replying to negative comments to make it look so GOOD! Which is why I asked for no opinions...I accept yours though Klassified and thanks for the links, that confirmed I made the right choice NOT to get Suckered into this....

This is something I will stay away from and that I am 110% certain.



posted on Aug, 18 2014 @ 11:49 AM
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a reply to: Teye22

My mother-in-law was into that for a while... And just like Klassified said... they kept pushing her not to make sales but to bring other members into the fold. but she just doesn't have that kind of personality to pressure someone into joining and that's kind of what it takes to get head with them...

FYI the wife and I liked the laundry soap they have... but most everything else we could buy cheaper at the PX or Wally World.



posted on Aug, 18 2014 @ 12:17 PM
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Amway is a pyramid scheme. Plain and simple.

You are not rewarded for your efforts. You are rewarded for the efforts of those you recruit.

Growing up in West Texas during the oil bust years, I had to sit through more than 1 Amway presentation. I know 3 people who did Amway back then. They have all served jail time for checks and other forms of financial crimes.

Not that all Amway folks are criminal. Just that, in my own experience, the folks who could put their pride aside long enough to try to sink their hooks into other victims ended up in jail at some point subsequent to this.

Can you make money with them? Sure...some will make money. Most won't. And the money isn't really honest.



posted on Aug, 18 2014 @ 04:40 PM
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My experience? When the wife and I returned to our clients in a month or so for further sales? They all said "NO! That stuff is great and we only need to use a little bit. It will last us a longggggg time!".

Then it was clear. We needed new customers all the time because the friends and neighbors, family were all set for a long time. It didnt take long to run out of leads, customers...even relying on cold-calling.

Product wise? They are all very good. But, like...and I say LIKE a pyramid process....the greatest (and not the only one) way to make $$$...is to get more sales people to work for or under you.

Research "Amway-Diamond Direct Distributors."

Should you go along? Good luck, and dont contact me please. I still got some of that great shoe shine spray from 1981!



posted on Aug, 19 2014 @ 03:08 AM
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My only experience is when someone tried to recruit me. It was someone I vaguely knew as a child (distant acquaintance of a friend of my older brother). He was that desperate to recruit that he looked up anyone in his whole life who he had been vaguely aware of in his distant past.

He became a nuisance. I didn't know the guy, I didn't like the guy and yet he would drop by regularly, fawning and flattering and acting like we were long lost bosom friends, trying to show me that he was doing me this enormous favour, increasingly desperate to get me, to get anyone at all to sign up.

Even after I spelled it out to him with a huge NO! it took a while for him to get it.

So I have no personal experience of being involved myself, but I have witnessed the desperation and loss of personal pride, and the lengths to which normal humans will be willing to go to scrap accepted social boundaries in order to survive.



posted on Aug, 19 2014 @ 03:32 AM
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I was part of Amway back in the late 1980s.

The products were good, and when you broke down the costs of them, they were comparable, maybe even a bit less than other similar products from the local stores.

The prices were a bit better when you join, since there is a discount and then you get a "rebate" check.

Not quite sure how the prices match up to today's prices, with the whole "cheap products made in China" we have now.

The whole push to get new members is very real. But there was no reason to if that's not what you wanted to do.

I spent a couple years trying to "build the business" without much success, so for a few years after that I just kept the membership to get cheap(ish) products. Lots of people do this.

Check the products, if there is something there that might be worth it to you, go for it. Don't get caught up in the hoopla that surrounds it.

BTW.. even back then, no-one actually mentioned Amway, because the preconception of most people is Amway = soap. It is, but they added alot to their catalog of products as well. I have no idea what their catalog looks like now.

Hope this helps a bit!



posted on Aug, 19 2014 @ 03:43 AM
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a reply to: DISRAELI

The American term is Multi Level Marketing, or MLM. And you are applying it correctly. Other American MLM companies are like Mary Kay, Tupperware, Avon, and the like.

To the OP, if you have a bad feeling, follow your gut. Seriously, every time I didn't follow my gut, I regretted it. Follow the feeling! A very small percentage of people who do this actually make good money. You might turn out to be one of them, but more likely, you will not. Find some other thing to do for yourself if you need to increase your income.
Good luck!






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