Gov. Jay Nixon signs exec. order to send Missouri National Guard to Ferguson

There is suppose to be a huge march at
6pm. I cannot find anything live or any
info. Earlier this afternoon I was listening to
NPR & it sounded like things were heating up.
Possibly some arrest or police ready to arrest...
I don't know someone was talking to me.

Cheers
Ektar

This just came through on my Facebook....once again, Cracked NAILS it.... (warning: possibly salty language on article and/or site):

And by the way, when we say that the police needs to calm the [eff] down and become our friends again, many actual cops agree. In 1969, after the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr., Jerry Wilson was appointed police chief of Washington. While the city protested, he took discreet precautions (putting riot teams in unmarked buses and parking those buses out of sight of protesters) and made sure to recruit a police force that reflected the ethnic make-up of the local population. Because of this, Washington was one of the only cities where crime actually fell during that period of American History. The [stuff] cops do to protesters now -- tear gas, preemptive SWAT raids -- is based off of the 1999 WTO protests in Seattle, which Norm Stamper, then-Seattle police chief, calls "the worst mistake" of his career, because "police departments across the country learned all the wrong lessons from" them. If you're trying to violence a town into being peaceful, your understanding of violence, peace, and nouns is just completely broken.

We're not going to stop stereotyping cops because, again, that's the point of their uniform. So we say it's their responsibility to change the [effing] stereotype.

Here we go finally a live feed. I am not sure where
they are yet since I just started listening.

www.ustream.tv...

Cheers
Ektar

Edit They are marching from the church to the memorial site.
Cops prevented them from memorial site by turning them around.
March is small (100+?) but had 9 police cars following them.
Someone talking now....

originally posted by: Ektar
Here we go finally a live feed. I am not sure where
they are yet since I just started listening.

www.ustream.tv...

Cheers
Ektar

You beat me to it! LOL, was just about to post that same link. Only problem is, the sound is so low I cannot catch all of what they are saying. Apparently this is some kind of planned memorial? At a church, I believe. I think I heard the man behind the camera say something about the police had turned alot of folks away from another place? If anyone can fill me in I would appreciate it.


ETA: And now he appears to be offline.

March is officially over there in St Louis sponsored by
"100 Black Men" who are big on education, finance & other.
Again the speakers were full of information telling everyone
about the different programs in the city & county that can
help them. One program was they are in the process of helping
those that have had legal problems in the past & getting their
records expunged so they can vote. The importance of voting
was really pushed.

The speakers also told the crowd how important it is to know
your rights, they would be teaching how to conduct yourself &
how to appear in the court.

The speakers were very straight to the point & people were
taking the contact information.

Cheers
Ektar

Edit They are in Ferguson now.
Ektar

If anyone's interested, someone went to Ferguson and did a short documentary on what was going on. ~17min of footage, some interesting stats.
Ex: 1990, Ferguson was majority white. 2000, it was closer to split population. 2010, majority black.

a reply to: Greven
I watched the video and I have 3 comments about it.

1. Coalition of Black Trade Unionists?
I never heard of them before today, it sounds very racist. What would happen if there was a Coalition of White Trade Unionists? CBTU is affiliated with AFL-CIO which means Richard Trumka (Obama's buddy).

CBTU was started in September 1972 when more than 1,200 black union officials and rank and file members from 37 national unions met in Chicago, Illinois, to discuss the role of black trade unionists in the labor movement. At the time, it was the largest single gathering of black unionists in the history of the American labor movement. Five black labor leaders (William Lucy, Nelson Edwards, William Simons, Charles Hayes and Cleveland Robinson) called the new organization the Coalition of Black Trade Unionists.

en.wikipedia.org...



2. Clueless Liar
At 2:13 this woman says, "You didn't have to shoot him in the back!" That lie has already been exposed! They should have edited that BS out of the video. She totally ruined any chance at redemption with her stubborn lie.


3. This nice woman is imploring everyone to vote, pointing out that they alone put Obama and Holder in office. Keep on voting for the Democrats no matter what! Brilliant idea. The country is going down the toilet, voting for them really helped.

In summary you have a racist Chicago labor union, a clueless liar, and a Democratic vote cheerleader! The video wasted 15 minutes of my life. Thanks...

a reply to: Mikeultra
Blasted 'request timed out' crap eating my reply now I have to do it all again...

#1 was on film for approximately 1-2 seconds, and I didn't hear mentioned at all. Kind of an odd thing to latch onto.

#3 was on film for approximately 40 seconds, split into two sections - the latter half talking about voting. She didn't mention a party name at all, only saying how votes counted even if they didn't think they did. The black voter turnout in Ferguson has been abysmal, which is why the government is totally controlled by whites. Seems like a pretty valid message, unless one is reading weirdly into it.

#2 seems like a lie at first glance. Perhaps it is. However, you are missing some perspective here. I shoot and have shot 9mm pistols pretty regularly at a range and at somewhat less regularly outdoors at steel plates. It can be tough to see precisely where you hit on paper targets from a few tens of feet away - and that's looking directly at the target. These witnesses were probably off at other angles and were much further away, unable to see exactly where Brown was shot. It's entirely reasonable for them to have assumed that, when he jerked and turned around, that he was hit.

And, it may be that he actually was hit - in the arm rather than the back. See, an audio recording emerged recently which seems to have captured the shooting itself. The company has verified it:

Because Glide is the only messaging application using streaming video technology, each message is simultaneously recorded and transmitted, so the exact time can be verified to the second. In this case, the video in question was created at 12:02:14 PM CDT on Saturday, August 9th.

Listening to it, I hear 10 shots - A single shot, a second pause, a 5 shot volley, a four second pause, then a 4 shot volley. Others hear 11 shots - so let's tack on a 5th shot to the second volley.

We know from the 2nd autopsy that Brown was shot 6 or more times.
We know from the NYT article that Brown was shot at while running away.
We know that Brown turned and was shot to death.
It seems reasonable that he turned during the 4s pause, as no wound seemed to have come from the side.
After the 4s pause, suppose 5 shots were fired.
We seem to be short on accounting for at least one wound now, don't we?

a reply to: Greven
The CBTU is a strange thing. They were "born" in Chicago. They're a racist organization. They are doing what the SEIU did during the Trayvon Martin case. If I dig deep enough I'll find the SEIU in Ferguson also! So you have 2 organized labor unions that are stirring racial unrest. Trumka = Obama. Look at the CBTU logo. Looks similar to Communist Party USA and New Black Panther Party! Here's a link for SEIU in Sanford, FL. www.seiu.org...

The NY Times is a liberal rag of a newspaper and I consider to be a highly unreliable source. Your opinion may vary of course. I fixed the autopsy sketch. Questions...?

SEIU, Communist Party USA, Democratic Socialists of America member Jan Shakowsky (Chicago), and the OWS crowd. Birds of a feather flock together. Wait until October approaches, you'll them all in Ferguson!


www.thegatewaypundit.com...
Never let a good crisis go to waste!

Of course the SEIU is in Ferguson! It's what they do...

“When news broke about what happened to Mike Brown, several of us went to our union staff to find out what we could do together in Ferguson. We have a lot of members that work and live there, and we knew that as a union we needed to step up and be there. We’ve had a presence ever since. Whether it’s been peacefully marching, attending vigils, picking up trash, handing out water, etc., we’re here to help and call for justice. No unarmed person should be gunned down in the streets where they live, no matter what color you are.”

www.seiuhcilin.org...

a reply to: Mikeultra
Again, who cares? The banner for their organization was on screen for approximately two seconds out of the 17+min video.

The NYT is our newspaper of record. It is the sole paper that people will regularly cite in scientific journals (at least in PoliSci, which was my first degree). It can get things wrong, but it is consistent in being good reporting and issues corrections when errors are found (even tiny ones). Dismissing it because you disagree with its supposed views is simple-minded at best. Law enforcement authorities on the case told the NYT that Wilson shot at Brown while he was running, so you're essentially accusing the police of lying if you say that did not occur.

Additionally, Dr. Baden being the medical examiner was supposed to be an open and shut thing - he's a highly respected authority who many people put their trust in that he would get it right. Here you are second-guessing his autopsy - he said 6 or more shots. You now say 5 - you are accusing him of lying. You have no qualifications to judge it. So, try again some other way to disprove what is a very likely thing now that we have audio corroborating witness accounts.

Oh, and your "warning shots" thing is a fabrication based upon your own views as to what happened and outside of any fact or evidence that we know of. You do realize this road is not a straight street and curves past where Brown was shot, right? You don't fire warning shots in the air, they can come down and hurt or kill people. You don't fire warning shots at the asphalt, they can ricochet. Firing past the target would be shooting at apartments. Police almost never fire warning shots, and warning shots are still considered deadly force. Gross conjecture on your part.

Those terrible unions, they gave us the weekend, 40 hour work week, overtime, health benefits, got rid of child labor.

How dare them unions expressing there right to assemble, association, and free speech!

How dare the people expressing there right to assemble, association, and free speech, by supporting groups that support them!!!

The outrage of it all!!!

a reply to: Greven
I'm glad you brought up Dr. Baden, and the fact that you consider the NY Times a credible source. On August 15, 2014 the Brown families lawyer Daryl Parks stated the 2nd autopsy had been done but didn't yet want to answer questions about it. Remember the date. August 15, 2014 he said those words.

To be absolutely sure the lawyer said the 2nd autopsy had been done and was completed on August 15, 2014, watch this video. It is mentioned around 11:00 and 13:00! He doesn't want to answer questions yet about it.
fox2now.com...

Shawn Parcells is a pathologists assistant. He did the autopsy by himself, even though he's not licensed to do so.

Now pay close attention to the dates here, because this comes from your beloved NY Times!

One of the bullets entered the top of Mr. Brown’s skull, suggesting his head was bent forward when it struck him and caused a fatal injury, according to Dr. Michael M. Baden, the former chief medical examiner for the City of New York, who flew to Missouri Sunday at the family’s request to conduct the separate autopsy. It was likely the last of bullets to hit him, he said.

www.nytimes.com...
Notice the date in the link above? That's Monday 2014/08/18. But Daryl Parks had stated at his press conference the 2nd autopsy had been done and was completed on August 15, 2014! Do you not see the conflict there? It means Shawn Parcells alone did the autopsy on August 15, 2014 or earlier. Dr. Baden flew in on 08/17/2014 and merely signed his name to the report that the unlicensed hired gun Parcells wrote!

So you don't impress me in the least with the famous Dr. Baden!

Shawn Parcells is not a pathologist, he is a voice for hire. Here’s some articles on the lack of credentials for Parcells and the concerns therein: “[...] some coroners and medical examiners in Missouri say Parcells has inflated his qualifications and performed autopsies without a medical license. Others allege that doctors whose signatures were on some autopsy reports were not present at the autopsies, did not review the work or never actually signed the documents.” “Police in Andrew County are looking into allegations that a pathologist Parcells listed on a 2012 autopsy was never consulted.” “Shramek said he became alarmed when Parcells asked what to put down as the cause of death on an autopsy report instead of following the evidence.” “Others, such as Dr. Mary Case, the medical examiner for St. Louis, St. Charles, Franklin and Jefferson counties, have been outspoken about the allegations against Parcells. “It’s very bad for our state if there’s someone doing autopsies without a medical license,” she said. “This is a huge atrocity, an invitation to disaster, and it needs to stop.”

www.stltoday.com... a4d.html

a reply to: Mikeultra
So now you conclude the autopsy is crap, even though you referred to it previously? Very strange argument, buddy.

Oh, and by the way, perhaps you didn't get the memo on a reason why your argument is flawed:

Aug. 16, 2014
Brown family's lawyer Anthony Gray tells TIME that noted forensic pathologist Michael Baden will examine remains of the teenager killed one week ago Saturday

An attorney for the family of Michael Brown, the 18-year-old who was shot dead by a police officer in Ferguson, Mo. one week ago, said Saturday that the family’s legal team had hired a well known forensic pathologist to conduct an independent autopsy of the teenager’s body.

Brown’s body is in the process of being prepared for Michael Baden

Or maybe you just didn't read the NYT article you linked to:

Prof. Shawn L. Parcells, a pathologist assistant based in Kansas, assisted Dr. Baden.

“You do this for the families,” Mr. Parcells said.

The two medical experts conducted the four-hour examination Sunday at the Austin A. Layne Mortuary in St. Louis. Benjamin L. Crump, a lawyer for Mr. Brown’s family who paid their travel expenses, hired them.

So no, your gotcha is also wrong.

What likely happened was that they conducted an autopsy between the 13th (when the body was reported released to family) and 15th, then were able to get Dr. Baden to agree to come down before the press conference on the 15th, which is why the lawyer held off on any details. Then, Dr. Baden came down and examined the body, and the press conference discussing the family's autopsy (or two) was held after that - or the lawyer was just wrong.

Also, your last link is broken due to the BBC encoding. Of course, there is also a response from back in 2013 by Parcells to similar allegations.

a reply to: Greven
This link is not broken, it's just slow to load. You haven't got the patience to wait and hear the lawyer state that the autopsy was performed and complete as of 08/15/2014, prior to Dr. Baden arriving on 08/17/2014! That proves the unqualified and unlicensed Shawn Parcells performed the autopsy alone! Dr. Baden merely read his shabby report and signed on to it to add credibility to it. But the stupid lawyer revealed the deception. Here's the link once again, I just tested it and it does work! Listen closely around 11:00 and 13:00 for the revealing truth! That is of course if you want to truly deny ignorance. fox2now.com...

Your own words right below admit the autopsy was done without Dr. Baden! He didn't arrive until Sunday 08/17/2014! That's what the NY Times article said! That's your ultra reliable source isn't it? The url date is Monday 08/18/2014. The article states Dr. Baden flew in on Sunday. It has to be the 17th of August! It could not possibly have been the previous Sunday the 10th of August only a day after the shooting! Stop trying to twist the truth. Just accept the fact that you're backing the losing side. Here's the quote from the article.

One of the bullets entered the top of Mr. Brown’s skull, suggesting his head was bent forward when it struck him and caused a fatal injury, according to Dr. Michael M. Baden, the former chief medical examiner for the City of New York, who flew to Missouri on Sunday at the family’s request to conduct the separate autopsy. It was likely the last of bullets to hit him, he said.

mobile.nytimes.com...

What likely happened was that they conducted an autopsy between the 13th (when the body was reported released to family) and 15th, then were able to get Dr. Baden to agree to come down before the press conference on the 15th, which is why the lawyer held off on any details. Then, Dr. Baden came down and examined the body, and the press conference discussing the family's autopsy (or two) was held after that - or the lawyer was just wrong.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

What kind of double talk are you trying to pull off here? The autopsy was done by an unlicensed pathologists assistant! Dr. Baden was flown in, looked at the chopped up body, and signed on to the report. That's all he did. He didn't get his hands dirty!

Are you refusing to read this article which details Missouri coroners concerns about the unlicensed Parcells performing autopsies? Are you claiming this link is broken? You don't consider the St. Louis Post-Dispatch credible? What is the obstacle for you understanding the BS concerning Dr. Baden and Shawn Parcells? Is it willful ignorance? Please explain if you can...

But some coroners and medical examiners in Missouri say Parcells has inflated his qualifications and performed autopsies without a medical license. Others allege that doctors whose signatures were on some autopsy reports were not present at the autopsies, did not review the work or never actually signed the documents. Meanwhile, Parcells’ online work profile is filled with inaccurate information. Some coroners worry that Parcells’ actions could jeopardize criminal cases, potentially allowing a murderer to go free. Parcells denies any improper behavior, saying jealousy and politics are at the root of what he called rumors about his work. “What it comes down to is they think I’m trying to play doctor when I’m not,” he said. “I would never do that. I’m not that kind of person.” Yet last month, the Phelps County prosecutor asked to delay a murder trial because of concerns about a report by Parcells’ company. Public defenders in Phelps and Harrison counties have investigated autopsies Parcells handled in other murder cases. Police in Andrew County are looking into allegations that a pathologist Parcells listed on a 2012 autopsy was never consulted.

www.stltoday.com... 4d.html

EDIT: Lucky for you I have a screen captures for the the link that has been 404'd! A cover up in progress! I will post the screen captures in my next post!

soundcloud.com...

Massive protests right now:

Iammikebrown

newsrevo

Listen to Big Mike's crappin'! From this link, soundcloud.com... 4:04 from the beginning, and approximately 2:00 into the second track (Chiraq FreeStyle Luh Vee Ft. Big'Mike Luh Kobe), he says "Nigga, I gots dat dust!" That's slang for PCP. Can't wait for the toxicology report. This cat was fried!

a reply to: LDragonFire
Cool, burn the town down! I recommend to mute the volume on the livestream, and listen to Big Mike's crap while watching the rioting. soundcloud.com...