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posted on Nov, 10 2014 @ 06:24 PM
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a reply to: MystikMushroom

They do have those but they too can be tracked by foreign powers. By international law anything that gets launched into space via rocket needs to be announced to everyone else that can detect and possibly mistake it for an ICBM and launch a full counter strike.
Bass is right that it would be much harder to track/find micro sats that are launched in from a clandestine space plane. I think though they could still get stuff into space by piggy backing them onto another traditionally launched sat. When they launch spy sats. they don't really tell us what the sat is or even how many sats there are at the top of the rocket.
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posted on Nov, 10 2014 @ 07:23 PM
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a reply to: Sammamishman

To me that's still too risky. Another agency might get a peek. I would imagine they would want full control and maximum secrecy. Do it all in house. To me that says no public rocket flights and a sneakier way to get the job done.



posted on Nov, 10 2014 @ 07:26 PM
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a reply to: BASSPLYR

Once it's in the VAB they can put anything in there, and only the technicians will see what it is. And if it's in a sheath, they won't have any idea about it. With them going to microsats now, they could put a couple dozen onto an Atlas V, and no one would be the wiser.



posted on Nov, 10 2014 @ 08:11 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

I get you. And I agree thats probably what they do most of the time. But to me, thats still pretty risky. I would want to have it all in house, one stop shop, a turn key operation and ability to get things into space. No loss of control over launch times and widows, no getting ousted due to politics as to when you can and can't put your payload on the communal express. No outsiders period. No questions, no anything. clandestine. Thats what I would do if I was in charge. I'd be surprised if they didn't attempt to do that and if they haven't already succeeded in doing just that to some degree.



posted on Nov, 10 2014 @ 08:14 PM
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a reply to: BASSPLYR

Yeah, but they do it all the time with no problems. Just look at how many classified satellites are launched in a year,where we only know the logo, or the number or whatever.



posted on Nov, 10 2014 @ 08:21 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

I feel ya. But if one really wanted to go big time into this whole space dominance thing I'd imagine one would want their own ride. And their own garage. And their own technicians. I wouldn't even want them to weigh the thing and even get ideas from that. Just leave them completely in the dark. Surely there is stuff thats so secretive they don't even want to take the normal risks for when they try to get it into orbit. But that could be an capability they would never, ever, ever admit to.



posted on Nov, 11 2014 @ 03:36 AM
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originally posted by: Sammamishman
Remember, there are still a number of KC-135T models in active service out there.


Fascinating to say the least, eh?



originally posted by: MystikMushroom
Areospike engines...


More than aerospike engines, i'd say aerospike nozzles. That's why i posted a pic of the LASRE a couple of pages ago



posted on Nov, 11 2014 @ 11:46 AM
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originally posted by: Sammamishman
a reply to: MystikMushroom

...By international law anything that gets launched into space via rocket needs to be announced to everyone else that can detect and possibly mistake it for an ICBM and launch a full counter strike.

I guess if you have a "runway-to-orbit" platform that is not powered by rocket engines, then it would not be a violation of the treaty? Hmmmmm......< Spock voice > Fascinating < / Spock voice >



posted on Nov, 12 2014 @ 01:54 PM
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Seems to be an awful lot of news lately involving green fireballs. How many would we speculate are aircraft related? Or should I ask, how common are green meteors? I myself saw a green fireball over Chicago this summer, but just assumed it was a meteor. Never seen anything quite like that before. It was right around dusk and moving due east very quickly.



posted on Nov, 12 2014 @ 02:55 PM
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a reply to: DichroChrono

Green fireballs are actually fairly common, especially around this time of year. There are 3 meteor showers, Orionids, Leonids and the Geminids that occure from Oct. 21 to Dec. 13th.
Not all of the green streaks are meteors though.



posted on Nov, 13 2014 @ 10:46 AM
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a reply to: Sammamishman

How convenient that the other green streaks will be airborne during this timeframe ;-)



posted on Nov, 15 2014 @ 02:41 AM
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Is it possible that the green girl have space capability ?



posted on Nov, 15 2014 @ 09:17 AM
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a reply to: darksidius

I don't believe so. I think it's still an air breather.



posted on Nov, 18 2014 @ 01:43 AM
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a reply to: Zaphod58
Zaphod58.
I sent you a U2U.
Please respond.
Thank you



posted on Nov, 18 2014 @ 05:45 PM
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1956 DECLASSIFIED NACA REPORT

The appearance of a boric oxide exhaust cloud from a turbojet engine operating on trimethyl- borate fuel (August 10, 1956)

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posted on Nov, 19 2014 @ 08:50 AM
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a reply to: mbkennel

The first rule of The Green Flame is DON'T TALK ABOUT THE GREEN FLAME

-sorry guys, I just had to



posted on Nov, 19 2014 @ 09:08 AM
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originally posted by: drwire
1956 DECLASSIFIED NACA REPORT

The appearance of a boric oxide exhaust cloud from a turbojet engine operating on trimethyl- borate fuel (August 10, 1956)



Hm. If oxides don't work, then maybe they carry some other oxidizer along...



posted on Nov, 25 2014 @ 06:58 AM
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originally posted by: Bedlam

originally posted by: drwire
1956 DECLASSIFIED NACA REPORT

The appearance of a boric oxide exhaust cloud from a turbojet engine operating on trimethyl- borate fuel (August 10, 1956)



Hm. If oxides don't work, then maybe they carry some other oxidizer along...


Hmmm - www.reactionengines.co.uk...





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