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originally posted by: MidNight sun
Question, what does "surrendering to the truth" entail? What does that mean? And what does "allowing the Ocean to be the Ocean" mean? How can the water molecule 'allow' the Ocean to be anything? The water molecule can't control the Ocean - right??
originally posted by: Aphorism
a reply to: Visitor2012
I think a better analogy would be a fish. Saying that the water of the ocean is the water of the ocean seems a little too obvious.
"Can the water molecule go to the Ocean?" . Yes, I believe it can, but it's not away from the Ocean physically, so it can't actually go to the Ocean since it's already there
"How does the water molecule get to it". That's a bit more difficult; and I guess somehow, some way the water molecule would have to realize or find out that the Ocean is all around it and always has been and always will be.
"How does it remain there?" I think, it would remain there by not forgetting that information.
"With such a recognition, why would it even attempt to do so?" Maybe even with this knowledge the water molecule does not FEEL IT, maybe it still feels alone, and maybe more than anything it wants to FEEL THE OCEAN.
Not at all. The fish IS separate from the Ocean. The water ISNT separated from the Ocean. This story is about a water molecule searching for evidence of the concept called Ocean. However you could tell of a fish searching for water. And however equally silly that sounds, it would simply reduce the story to a dualistic expression. Not only that, but it would contain two concepts that are not as close to each other. In terms of the relationship between the two concepts 'fish' and 'water' as opposed to 'water' and 'body of water' ' this would not satisfy the perspective being offered by the story. And obviousness is the intent of the story. So no Thankyou.
Until the water molecule evaporates and is separate from the ocean, and lives in the sky instead. From that viewpoint she could see the ocean and deduce quite reasonably that she is separate from it, being that she is floating somewhere above it. Maybe she'll find herself in a lake or a river or in some fetid pool near a desert—all separated from and thus longing for the ocean forever. Doesn't sound like she'll be abiding any time soon.