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Writer of The Coming Plague warns "you are not nearly scared enough about Ebola"

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posted on Aug, 19 2014 @ 09:07 AM
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a reply to: DumpMaster

You'd best call the CDC and share your considerable knowledge - sounds like they could use your help. Also, Ebola researchers say we really don't know much at all about this virus - maybe give them a call too, set them straight?


Hospitals in the U.S. Get Ready for Ebola

Dr. Thomas R. Frieden, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, has said such a case is inevitable in the United States, and the agency this month issued the first extensive guidelines for hospitals on how recognize and treat Ebola patients.

….The C.D.C. says that health care workers treating Ebola patients need only wear gloves, a fluid-resistant gown, eye protection and a face mask to prevent becoming infected with the virus. That is a far cry from the head-to-toe “moon suits” doctors, nurses and aides have been seeing on television reports about the outbreak.

….But Dr. Michael V. Callahan, an infectious disease specialist at Massachusetts General Hospital who has worked in Africa during Ebola outbreaks, does not think it is wrong for hospitals to opt for more protective equipment.

The minimal precautions recommended by the C.D.C. “led to the infection of my nurses and physician co-workers who came in contact with body fluids,” Dr. Callahan said. “I understand the desire to maintain absolute protection in U.S. hospitals.”

Dr. Justin Fairless, an emergency physician in Tulsa, Okla., said that health care workers in Africa “are wearing the highest level of protection, but the C.D.C. recommendation lets us go down to the lowest level of protection.” …..




posted on Aug, 19 2014 @ 09:38 AM
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a reply to: Painterz



Unless it becomes airborne, there's really no reason to worry.


It is already airborne, when in close proximity like the same room or an airplane.

Ebola Goes Airborne
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posted on Aug, 19 2014 @ 11:40 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: Rezlooper

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: Rezlooper

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Rezlooper

Hollywood? You do realize that Hollywood's plague movies are the last thing you should be citing to support the impeccability of your source, and I say that as someone married to a man who works with infectious organisms for a living. He says Hollywood's plague movies are crap.



Well of course, Hollywood has to make money so they have to make it as over-the-top as possible, but at the same time, I'm sure directors want to be informed as possible on what they are making a movie about, IMO anyways. Whether they follow that information or not is up to them, based on money and ratings.



I am in no way downplaying the seriousness of Ebola as a disease, but I am telling you that it is not the wildfire plague everyone wants to make it out to be.


Tell that to the West Africans.


And much of the problem in those countries is that the local population is ignorant and lives in third world conditions with no medical superstructure to speak of. They resist measures that would help them contain the disease like disposal measures of the bodies. People are afraid of the medical personnel who have come in to try to help.

And when I say wildfire, I mean spreading like a wildfire. And even as bad as things are in Africa ... consider the overall population of the countries affected. The infection rates are still relatively low compared to the population as a whole.

None of that makes it better for you if you happen to be one of the unlucky ones who gets ill. Ebola is horrifying and an almost certain death sentence, especially in Africa, but it's not spreading like the flu would ... or even the Black Death, really.


We have many areas of America that might as well be third world countries.

And yes, it doesn't spread as fast as the flu, but much more frightening because the high numbers of deaths from the flu are usually small children, elderly or the sick...Ebola doesn't discriminate. So, good thing it doesn't spread like the flu and in the end, that may a good thing. But, I'm still not convinced that this disease hasn't mutated given the spread over West Africa, unlike past outbreaks which were usually contained to a few villages.



posted on Aug, 19 2014 @ 11:56 AM
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If Ebola follows the pattern of HIV and West Nile, and I'm sure it will, we will see it spread worldwide. Poorly-organized Africa will be devastated, while advanced countries will contain the damage, but not without many deaths. Scientists can create a vaccine, or at least a treatment to help you survive it. We have time to act, and we'd better get busy now. Even today, there are still cases of black plague, although antibiotics can cure it easily. Don't expect this to go away! The good part of Ebola is that if you live; you recover fully.



posted on Aug, 19 2014 @ 01:59 PM
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Here's a demonstration of what is required to work with Ebola in the laboratory - a Biocontainment Level IV state of the art lab; if you don't want to hear about how much the Australian govt spent on this, fast forward to the 2:55 minute mark:



Okay, now if you have no problem being exposed to Ebola in the seat next to you on a plane, or some random people at the store or whatever, please feel free to go right ahead.... ditto sending your kids to school with people who have traveled or returned from godknowswhere; or celebrating Thanksgiving with your college student who lives in a crowded dorm with students from overseas.

See the problem?

Ebola in the deep African jungle burning itself out by virtue of being completely isolated? Not really an issue globally.

Ebola getting on a plane, train or other mass transit, the exposed people hanging around in an air terminal for hours then getting on still more planes, times hundreds of passengers, times thousands of contacts? Problem.

Exponential, no your laughable 'Western Medicine' which will be completely overwhelmed before word even gets out won't help you, PROBLEM.



posted on Aug, 19 2014 @ 04:32 PM
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Im sorry, but, hearing them say how ok we all are, because unless you lick their wounds you won't get it, is a lot more believable when they are not in space suits breathing canned air.



posted on Aug, 19 2014 @ 05:08 PM
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originally posted by: mrsdudara
Im sorry, but, hearing them say how ok we all are, because unless you lick their wounds you won't get it, is a lot more believable when they are not in space suits breathing canned air.


Lol, yeah, they all talk about how they'd sit next to them on an airplane, blah, blah, blah...and yet, they say this while wearing those suits. Great point.



posted on Aug, 19 2014 @ 06:42 PM
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a reply to: Lil Drummerboy

Nutrition is GMO and medicine is generics to keep you sick, plus the government of America created Ebola, so I'm thinking Contagion meets Tuskeegee Experiment. Next stop, wipe out the gays in California. They been working on that for 40 years now. What AIDS didn't kill, EBOLA will.



posted on Aug, 19 2014 @ 06:48 PM
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It IS very scary and could reach pandemic proportions should it mutate to an airborne strain.
One would hope it could be restricted with fuel-air weaponry.
After all, it worked in Outbreak.



posted on Aug, 19 2014 @ 06:51 PM
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originally posted by: thesaneone
I wonder if this can be used as a weapon or in a smoke or tear canister and thrown at let's say protesters in the Midwest somewhere.

With all the mucus and tears, coughing and spitting this could spread like wildfire.


This one synopsis right here could be the bigger picture of Ferguson. S&F



posted on Aug, 19 2014 @ 06:53 PM
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originally posted by: Parthin
If Ebola follows the pattern of HIV and West Nile, and I'm sure it will, we will see it spread worldwide. Poorly-organized Africa will be devastated, while advanced countries will contain the damage, but not without many deaths. Scientists can create a vaccine, or at least a treatment to help you survive it. We have time to act, and we'd better get busy now. Even today, there are still cases of black plague, although antibiotics can cure it easily. Don't expect this to go away! The good part of Ebola is that if you live; you recover fully.


What you mean is, US and its allies finally figured out how to kill more people in African countries so they can take their land and resources without protest; they will use mutated strains to kill off dissedents in their own countries, as well as use it as a STD/STI, biological warfare agent in BRICS/ISIS countries. Vaccine will be given to the elite, upper level white Americans first, until France or another country discovers its cure.



posted on Aug, 19 2014 @ 08:31 PM
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originally posted by: GogoVicMorrow
a reply to: grandmakdw

Yeah, you could catch it that way, but that's still not technically airborne.


when you catch it that way, repeat to yourself: i'm not technically dead.
yet.



posted on Aug, 19 2014 @ 10:19 PM
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No, that is not at all what I meant. Some countries have an organized response to disease that is better than others. Liberia's low-tech response is to start shooting people (see other thread). But we can do better than that. It's not a big plot, it's just the way things are. a reply to: ArchPlayer



posted on Aug, 19 2014 @ 10:51 PM
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A single test between monkeys and pigs doesn't mean this Ebola strain (or even any strain) is airborne. Airborne means the virus can stay in the air.. airbone on dust particles, etc. Sometimes for hours in a room. This strain is not airborne. If it were, the outbreak would be much worse. I wish people would stop pointing to a single case and exclaiming this means that the current Ebola outbreak is airbone. Stop fearmongering.



posted on Aug, 19 2014 @ 11:13 PM
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originally posted by: PurpleDog UK
Just a thought……. if the outbreak carries on as many think it will for a number of months then what about 'migratory birds' acting as hosts / carriers and aiding the spread of the virus…?



West Africa is a place where many European birds fly to and from and would this possibly become an issue at a later date…?





On a slightly 'LIGHTER' note………. read the following…..



waterfordwhispersnews.com...



PDUK



Things that COULD aid the spread of the virus. Add to the list, the Mosquito,biting flies,nats and other animals. Has anyone even considered sweat? A sick sweaty person that rides the bus and leaves behind a sweaty mess. It dries, then you touch it and ich the inside of your nose, Bingo you get sick. GOOD CATCH. I never thought about the migrating birds. Let alone the migrating humans on airplanes.



posted on Aug, 19 2014 @ 11:43 PM
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Another thing to consider. What if a fly or some kind of bug lands on an ebola zombie ? If people need suits to study this germ. Well , a fly that lands on a sick sweaty ebola person then lands on 20 or more people. See what i getting at. IF you need a suit to be safe from ebola, then how is a person wearing NO SUIT going to fair with a fly that lands on them that came from a person that had ebola. This also goes for any other kinds of bugs like nats,mosquito's and any other flying bugs. Flying bugs are everywhere. If you have to wear a suit, then i guess a hand shake from an ebola patient is deadly cause the ebola handlers are all wearing suits. No matter where you go, there are flying bugs around and each bug or bugs that land on ebola zombies, carries that virus to another waiting victom, then that person becomes a zombie after the bug bites em. They need to find a cure for the ZOMBIES.



posted on Aug, 20 2014 @ 07:09 AM
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originally posted by: PurpleDog UK
Just a thought……. if the outbreak carries on as many think it will for a number of months then what about 'migratory birds' acting as hosts / carriers and aiding the spread of the virus…?

West Africa is a place where many European birds fly to and from and would this possibly become an issue at a later date…?


I couldn't resist!

Are You Suggesting That Swallows Migrate?




posted on Aug, 20 2014 @ 07:38 AM
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I believe its a psy op. And refuse to give into their doom porn or their "shots". I trust in God/Goodness to actually uphold the poor and smash the top off the pyramid of the evil psycho's and arrest them all. I do not mean any earthly action or fundie group doing this however. And having every single person living in equality with land homes and no slavery.

And I'm am never going to accept anything else for anything is illegal, slavery and I renounce and denounce.

To me this is a hoax perpetrated like most of their events.



posted on Aug, 20 2014 @ 09:37 AM
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I guess there are two types of airborne then, the type you get when you are on a plane for a few hours with somebody that is infected, I actually always seem to fight bugs after I fly, people don't miss there flight because they are sick. Or the type that can travel like you say over miles on dust particles and survive to infect somebody miles away.

If there are any virologists on ATS please offer your thoughts on this.

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posted on Aug, 20 2014 @ 09:07 PM
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originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
a reply to: fleabit

I guess there are two types of airborne then, the type you get when you are on a plane for a few hours with somebody that is infected, I actually always seem to fight bugs after I fly, people don't miss there flight because they are sick. Or the type that can travel like you say over miles on dust particles and survive to infect somebody miles away.

If there are any virologists on ATS please offer your thoughts on this.


So it's like this: If someone has the virus, but is not symptomatic, they are not contagious. So you are still fine. If they are having symptoms, and cough or sneeze in your direction, and their bodily fluids end up in YOUR body (through your nose, mouth etc.), then sure, you could get infected. Airplanes by nature are actually cleaner than say, an office building. Planes cycle all the air through HEPA filters 20 times every hour. Office buildings 12 times, and usually not through such a filter. So if someone 3 rows back is even severely infected and showing symptoms and hacking around them, you are probably perfectly safe.

Thing is, usually once someone becomes symptomatic with this virus, they are bedridden.. not traveling on planes or trains. People who get sick while traveling is usually more due to being run down and exhausted. Not so much because a plane is a pool of viruses.. that's just not true.



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