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posted on Aug, 17 2014 @ 08:55 AM
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Just watched this video which some may find interesting. I'm not religious and I'm not trying to make out it's the end of days etc just think it's quite an interesting subject.

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he speaks about the rise of isis in Iraq and Assyria etc. The first 12 minutes are mainly news reports which you will have already seen so you might want to skip them.




posted on Aug, 17 2014 @ 09:37 AM
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a reply to: sg1642
That's the thing about biblical prophecy, isn't it? It can be twisted to fit just about anything one wants to believe. Just ask Harold Camping.

"It seems embarrassing for Family Radio. But God was in charge of everything. We came to that conclusion after quite careful study of the Bible" Harold Camping
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posted on Aug, 17 2014 @ 09:40 AM
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a reply to: sg1642

When China seizes Turkey and dams up the rivers and marches its army south into Iran, then you can know that the biblical end of days as fundamentalist Christians describe is approaching. What Christian Zealots don't realize is that they cannot combine all of the prophecies of the scriptures, because there are competing prophecies. The future is not written in stone. There are several paths the world could take going forward, and Armageddon is just one possible outcome.

In fact, the world was meant to end in the days of Sampson and the world kept marching on. A tireless irate minority can hold reality into existence long after its expiration date and crisis after crisis can keep coming up, but we'll avert them every time. The adversary is trying to play a game of football, when in reality we are playing a game of baseball, and we keep pushing this thing into extra innings until we'll win.



posted on Aug, 17 2014 @ 09:51 AM
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I'm still holding-out on the hope Satan will repent so he can be forgiven too!

Solving the worlds riddles.
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posted on Aug, 17 2014 @ 10:15 AM
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Yeah I would agree. The problem with most prophecies is the fact they tend to be very vague so the list of possible interpretations is endless. Just found some of his points quite interesting.



posted on Aug, 17 2014 @ 10:16 AM
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I guess it all depends on what you are looking for . This vid takes a interesting look at what we might be looking for near the end times .



posted on Aug, 17 2014 @ 10:42 AM
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originally posted by: loveguy
I'm still holding-out on the hope Satan will repent so he can be forgiven too!

Solving the worlds riddles.


Enoch stumbled on the exact idea. God shows this to be his desire in this conversation with Enoch.

"Then the Lord with his own mouth called me, saying, Approach hither, Enoch, at my holy word. And He raised me up, making me draw near even to the entrance. My eye was directed to the ground. Then addressing me, He spoke and said, Hear, neither be afraid, O righteous Enoch, thou scribe of righteousness: approach hither, and hear my voice. Go, say to the Watchers of heaven [fallen angels], who have sent thee to pray for them,

You ought to pray for men, and not men for you.

Wherefore have you forsaken the lofty and holy heaven, which endures forever, and have lain with women; have defiled yourselves with the daughters of men; have taken to yourselves wives; have acted like the sons of the earth, and begotten an impious offspring?"

Satan must repent. Now for the real question. Why are we here as fallen beings? Know thyself.



posted on Aug, 17 2014 @ 11:13 AM
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a reply to: AlephBet

Perhaps you could enlighten us as to what you think you mean? That would be helpful, thanks.



posted on Aug, 17 2014 @ 11:30 AM
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a reply to: Chronogoblin

Read the comment I was responding to. My response points out that repentance must include turning and facing truth. The watchers wanted Enoch to get them off the hook with God. In response, God showed the truth. Pray for the good of others first. Truth is the will of God, which is giving and not taking. Thieves take. Good gives. What motivated the Watchers? Self preservation, or taking.

God is shown our true heart by actions. All of us need the help to repent, but repentance only comes by turning the correct way. Seeking the good of others is the fruit of repentance.
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posted on Aug, 17 2014 @ 01:02 PM
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I'm not religious but if I was to say I had a religion I believed in I'd say it would be my own conscience. People know in their own head what is right and what is wrong. If you can live each day doing your best to do what you believe is right, then I'm sure your judgement wouldn't be too harsh (whoever that judge might be).



posted on Aug, 20 2014 @ 01:01 PM
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a reply to: the2ofusr1

I have been looking at the subject of the ben Joseph for awhile and have a bit of a different opinion of him. What I figured out was this.

According to the books of Malachi and Zechariah it appears that the job of Messiah was supposed to have been a 4 man job. The Lord, the 2 branches or messengers of Malachi, and Elijah the prophet. And according to Zechariah and the book of Matthew 3 of them have come and gone. But one still has yet to appear. Per Zechariah each branch is supposed to build a Jewish temple. There is still one yet to go. And per Revelation 11 the branches are the witnesses of Revelation. Therefore the person who rebuilds the next Jewish temple cannot be the Antichrist.
Rather he is one of the witnesses.

And for the op. Is it the end times? I would say so. Based on two prophesies. First off Matthew 24.

14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Has this been fulfilled? I would say yes. Based on this.

32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

With these verses Jesus Christ is comparing end time events to leaves on a tree in springtime. And when you see an end time event then know that summer is near and coming. So has there been an actual end time event to let us know that the generation has started? Yes. The creation of the state of Israel in 1948. A end time event predicted in multiple places in the bible.

My best guess is that the generation of Matthew 24-34 is around 66 years old now. Its running out of time.

2nd prophecy to look at. The day of Jezreel prophecy of the book of Hosea.

In that prophecy it was predicted that Israel and Judah were going to face a long term Leviticus 26 curse. However in verses 6-1 through 6-3 we're given the timeframe of the curse. 2 days. Followed by a day of blessings. The day of Jezreel. However these days are not as they seem at first glance. It's in a code. Decipherable by looking at 2nd Peter 3-8 or Psalms 90-4.

These days are thousand year periods of time.

Essentially it's predicted that Israel would face a 2000 year curse followed by a thousand year period of peace.

So based on both prophesies I would put the Apocalypse in the 2020s. We're getting very close now.



posted on Aug, 20 2014 @ 01:38 PM
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a reply to: ntech

Based on every interpretation I've seen and various other prophetic sources, even non-Christian ones, the End Times can be placed at some point here in the next decade. They could start (or may be starting even now) as early as this year or next or may be a few years off, but if they are going to fall out, it will be soon.

Based on my personal feelings which are in no way scientific nor do I believe myself prophetic, I have been drawn to Revelation since a young age, on my own. I don't know why, but sometimes, I think it's because God is sending me a message. So, I pray and try to maintain a place of humility in my heart.

I hope to God I am wrong.



posted on Aug, 20 2014 @ 09:38 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Actually if I have it figured out correctly it would seem that the first 5 seals of Revelation may have already opened. We're waiting for the ben Joseph messiah to trigger off the 6th one. Here's a verse to look at.

Daniel 11-2
2 And now will I shew thee the truth. Behold, there shall stand up yet three kings in Persia; and the fourth shall be far richer than they all: and by his strength through his riches he shall stir up all against the realm of Grecia.

This is the first event of the end times according to Daniel. And this is a perfectly accurate description of the 9-11 attacks on the US. But what is eerier? The 2nd and 3rd events that are predicted by Daniel 8.

Daniel 8
1 In the third year of the reign of king Belshazzar a vision appeared unto me, even unto me Daniel, after that which appeared unto me at the first.
2 And I saw in a vision; and it came to pass, when I saw, that I was at Shushan in the palace, which is in the province of Elam; and I saw in a vision, and I was by the river of Ulai.
3 Then I lifted up mine eyes, and saw, and, behold, there stood before the river a ram which had two horns: and the two horns were high; but one was higher than the other, and the higher came up last.
4 I saw the ram pushing westward, and northward, and southward; so that no beasts might stand before him, neither was there any that could deliver out of his hand; but he did according to his will, and became great.
5 And as I was considering, behold, an he goat came from the west on the face of the whole earth, and touched not the ground: and the goat had a notable horn between his eyes.
6 And he came to the ram that had two horns, which I had seen standing before the river, and ran unto him in the fury of his power.
7 And I saw him come close unto the ram, and he was moved with choler against him, and smote the ram, and brake his two horns: and there was no power in the ram to stand before him, but he cast him down to the ground, and stamped upon him: and there was none that could deliver the ram out of his hand.

17 So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision.
18 Now as he was speaking with me, I was in a deep sleep on my face toward the ground: but he touched me, and set me upright.
19 And he said, Behold, I will make thee know what shall be in the last end of the indignation: for at the time appointed the end shall be.
20 The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia.
21 And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king.

According to Daniel the next events are that 2 nations or kings in the middle east would be conquered by the "Greece" from Daniel 11.

At the moment Daniel appears to be 3 for 3 when it comes to end time events. Event 4 is what I'm worried about now.



posted on Aug, 20 2014 @ 09:48 PM
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a reply to: Nechash

Not many speak of the ones who hold it back.



posted on Jul, 3 2015 @ 01:51 PM
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In Revelation 8:5 it tells of a great earthquake that shakes the world to no end, I believe that this earthquakes origin will be from the San Andrea's fault line. I believe his because it goes on in Revelation 16:18 to say "Then there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder and a severe earthquake. No earthquake like it had ever occurred since man has been on earth, so tremendous was he quake, that it split the Great City into three parts." The great city is Jerusalem, because right now, war is being fought by three opposing groups over control of the city.

I mean it makes perfect sense doesn't it???



posted on Jul, 3 2015 @ 02:45 PM
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a reply to: ntech

"34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. "

funny how religious zealots always ignore that line that was included in the prophecy. These were the persons he was speaking to at the time. I guess they all must be way over 2000 years old today.

They must have been the zombies that were running around at the time of his resurrection.



posted on Jul, 3 2015 @ 06:43 PM
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One minor detail there. You are taking verse 34 out of context. You have to ask the question "Which generation is he talking about?" So here's the context.

Verse 3. The question he's answering.
And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

Verse 34 is a answer to the question "When is the end of the world.

Also Chap. 24 has a number of conditions that needed to be fulfilled before you get to verse 34. Here's 2 of them. Such as verse 14.

And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

And verse 15.

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand: )

Also something to consider. Verse 34 is part of a larger statement. The fig tree parable. The chapter and verse numbering system was added long after the book was written. This is how the fig tree parable should be read.

Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

So simply put Jesus Christ is referring to a future generation of people who were present when the last required person to fulfill verse 14 heard the gospel. Not the generation of people present when he was alive.
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posted on Jul, 3 2015 @ 08:14 PM
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originally posted by: ntech
a reply to: toktaylor

One minor detail there. You are taking verse 34 out of context. You have to ask the question "Which generation is he talking about?" So here's the context.

Verse 3. The question he's answering.
And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

Verse 34 is a answer to the question "When is the end of the world.

Also Chap. 24 has a number of conditions that needed to be fulfilled before you get to verse 34. Here's 2 of them. Such as verse 14.

And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

And verse 15.

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand: )

Also something to consider. Verse 34 is part of a larger statement. The fig tree parable. The chapter and verse numbering system was added long after the book was written. This is how the fig tree parable should be read.

Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

So simply put Jesus Christ is referring to a future generation of people who were present when the last required person to fulfill verse 14 heard the gospel. Not the generation of people present when he was alive.


i would like to ask the question, which version of the bible are you reading? the new american bible i have read clearly shows that he is referring to the very generation of people he is speaking to..

Jesus falsely prophesies directly to the high priest (Caiphas) that he would live to see his second coming:
Matthew 26:64 "But I tell you: From now on you will see 'the Son of Man seated at the right hand of the Power' and 'coming on the clouds of heaven.'"

Mark 14:62 Then Jesus answered, "I am; and 'you will see the Son of Man seated at the right hand of the Power and coming with the clouds of heaven.'"

Jesus mistakenly tells his followers that he will return and establish his kingdom within their lifetime:
Matthew 23:36 "Amen, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation"

Jesus implies that he will return to earth during the lifetime of John:
John 21:22 "If I want him to remain alive until I return, what is that to you? You must follow me."

Jesus claims those standing right before him shall see the Armageddon:
Matthew 16:28 “There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”

Mark 9:1 "Amen, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see that the kingdom of God has come in power."

Luke 9:27 "Truly I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God."

Jesus says that all that he describes, (his return, signs in the sun, moon, wars, stars, etc.) will occur within the lifetime of his listeners. He purposely defines their generation and not a future one. Considering that none of those signs took place during the resurrection and that he uses the phrase “heaven and earth shall pass away”, clearly Jesus is prophesizing that nearly 2,000 years ago Armageddon should have occurred:

Luke 21:25-33 "There will be signs in the sun, the moon, and the stars, and on earth nations will be in dismay, perplexed by the roaring of the sea and the waves. People will die of fright in anticipation of what is coming upon the world, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. And then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. But when these signs begin to happen, stand erect and raise your heads because your redemption is at hand."
He then used the fig tree analogy, "Consider the fig tree and all the other trees. When their buds burst open, you see for yourselves and know that summer is now near; in the same way, when you see these things happening, know that the kingdom of God is near. Amen, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have taken place. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away."

Matthew 10:23 also has Jesus telling his disciples that the second coming will occur before the disciples finish preaching in Israel: "When they persecute you in one town, flee to another. Amen, I say to you, you will not finish the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes."

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17, Paul stated: “For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: And the dead Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air: And so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Paul shared the belief, taught by Jesus, that he expected to be snatched up bodily into heaven with other saints then living, who would, thus, never taste death. The use of “we” clearly proves as much. It is difficult to deny that Paul was certain that the end of the world was coming in the lifetime of his contemporaries.

the problem with interpreting biblical prophecy and attempting to apply it to the current era is it requires the assumption that the teachings of Jesus were intended for far distant generations of people and not just the generations of people of the time he lived. remember, jesus didn't actually write any scripture, books, or lessons. he did not write down any of his teachings or prophesy. he did not author a single passage in the bible. Jesus taught and prophesied to those around him, and there is no biblical evidence that he was referring to the distant future. people wrote about Jesus and his teachings, but there are no guarantees they didn't take any of his statements out of context.

most of the book of revelation isn't about the end of the world. it's about the persecution of christians in the 1st century roman empire. it isn't prophesying the future - it's documenting what has already happened.

belief in "end times" relies on dispensationalism, a belief which only came about in the 1830s. there are no bible passages in support of the the dispensationalist viewpoint.

similiarly, the word "rapture" itself to refer to Jesus grabbing all the living christians off the earth did not appear until the 1909 publication of the scofield reference bible. the word "rapture" is not found anywhere in the text of the bible itself.
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posted on Jul, 4 2015 @ 09:42 AM
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According to the book of Jonah outside events can change or prevent prophecy from happening. In Jonah the people of Nineveh repented and so caused the anger of God to turn away from them. The reverse of that happened in the first century AD. So here goes it. The first century Jews BROKE the first century apocalypse. So here's what happened. And BTW I use the KJV.

Malachi 4.
5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

Malachi 3
1 Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the LORD, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.
2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:
3 And he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver: and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the LORD an offering in righteousness.
4 Then shall the offering of Judah and Jerusalem be pleasant unto the LORD, as in the days of old, and as in former years.

Matthew 17
10 And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come?
11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.
12 But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.
13 Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.


In killing John the Baptist the first century Jews triggered the curse of Malachi. THAT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN! The apocalypse of the first century AD was botched. The past 2000 years were not supposed to happen the way they did. It was supposed to be all over with in the first century AD but it wasn't. So here's the details on the curse.

In Leviticus 26 you have what is called the old covenant by Christians. Simply it is a business agreement. Do good and follow the laws given by God and you will prosper. Sin and break the laws and punishments begin to occur. The top level punishments are the destruction of your country and peoples with one caveat. You won't be utterly destroyed. A remnant will always survive. The curse of Malachi complies with this. So then the problem becomes figuring out the curse and the length of it. And I found that in the book of Hosea.

In the book of Hosea there is a prophecy called the day of Jezreel. Long story short the book of Hosea was predicting that Israel and the Jews were facing a top level Leviticus 26 curse. And in Chap 6 I found the length of the curse.

Hosea 6
1 Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up.
2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.

2nd Peter 3
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Do you see it? A two thousand year curse followed by a thousand year "day of Jezreel".

So when Herod killed John the Baptist at the behest of Salome and her mother he bumped the first century apocalypse into a 2000 year detour. And that is what most people don't get.



posted on Jul, 4 2015 @ 12:12 PM
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pretty interesting video... and I agree that the prophecies can be spun or massaged to One's purpose...

I would submit that at the present time the 3rd 'Key' is being implemented to bring about the platform from which the Beast Empire draws his authority from... the combined Trident we know as TPP, TTIP. TiSP
~SEE: wolfstreet.com...

the 52 co signees of this financial System, led by the 'King-of-the-North' are setting up a global finance and control apparatus from which the 'Mark-Name-Number' of the Beast will evolve from, under the direction of the A-C
this Trident system is an outgrowth of (directly tied to) the 3rd Horseman which went-forth in April 2015...
this Trident (pact-partnership-agreement) superceeds all existing Sovereign or National laws/rules and is designed to be totally against both BRICS and Islamic systems of money, credit, debt...

I will post a better explanation of this precursor to the A-C Beast finance system in the '4 horsemen of the apocalypse....' thread which I have been contributing to for about 16 or so informative posts over the last 15 months





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