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originally posted by: abe froman
originally posted by: MarlinGrace
originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: kosmicjack
FPD would gave us believe Wilson realized they were suspects mid-encounter..but, following the shooting Johnson wasn't arrested..
Why? No one had reviewed the video yet....
Very strange indeed.
Johnson's name is in page 4 of the police report dated 8/9/2014.
And Johnson was talking it up pretty good a few days later on the news stations.
Unless of course, the released "official" police report is "edited" ??
Lot's of rumors going around too.....
My favorite is;
The "militarized" swat confrontations were actually a DHS training exercise !!
They had a few days to figure it out and I bet they gathered lots of "data" from the incidents the other night.
They did this to catch the organized instigators.
They probably did catch people and it is not reported.
Then all quiet the very next night. Very odd.
They looked like Blackwater guys to me. It could have been ugly in a hurry.
Well since you don't know that the name Blackwater was changed long ago, I kinda doubt you'd know what their men look like. Just sayin'.
originally posted by: mwood
However, Michael did not deserve to lose his life over 49.00 worth of cigars.
It's stupid to get into a situation where you lay your life on the line for $49.00 that much is true.
Sometimes it's not about the monetary value of the crime. If someone breaks into my house at night while we're sleeping and tries to steal a $500 TV and they get shot, it wasn't about the TV. It was because They broke into my dwelling while my family was sleeping with no regard to anyone, my privacy or how far I would go to protect my family.
Have you ever been the victim of a violent crime? The psychological ramifications go far beyond the actual crime. A guy holds a knife to your wife's throat and steals her purse and he gets killed it WAS NOT about the $100 in the purse.
I have not followed this crime scene that closely as I have a life and can't spend 23 hours a day worrying about one crime that happened across the country when there are thousands everyday happening.
From what I read a few days ago they said the dead guy attacked the police officer and fought with him in the car for the officers gun.....True or not I don't know. If he did then he deserved to get shot and killed....period.
If that's not how it happened then the truth should come out. I saw a picture of the dead guy and he is pretty large and would be a handful if you were fighting him.
If the cops were out of line I will be the first to admit it. I will NOT go out of my way to try and lynch the guy until there is proof he did wrong. I know it's cool to tar & feather cops these days but sometimes they are just doing a crappy job that is VERY hard and bad things happen. It makes it no easier when most people have zero respect for anyone in authority these days. You don't have to get on your knees and kiss their butts over every word they speak but the position should earn them some basic respect. You have NO IDEA what that job is like, it's easy too sit behind a keyboard and call the shots and "know" how every situation should have been handled.
It's a little different when your out on the streets in bad neighborhoods where people have no respect for you and could care less about killing you for no reason. They have mothers, kids and wives to go home to at the end of the day like everyone else.
originally posted by: jammer2012
At this point the cause and effect of his death make no difference If we cant see what the hell is going on.
originally posted by: jammer2012
Lets see (1) The people have no right to protest peacefully
originally posted by: jammer2012
(2) the media have No right to report whats going on
originally posted by: jammer2012
(3) the police can now obtain military vehicles and weapons
originally posted by: jammer2012
(4) We the people are under attack for our rights to bare arms. So i say constitution what constitution. The noose is tightening and there will be no breathing room left.
originally posted by: Witness2008
a reply to: Xcathdra
People do not rise to the occasion, they fall back to their level of training.
And what part of the training covers not shooting someone that has their hands up?
originally posted by: TKDRL
The only way that would get a civilian out of hot water is if it was in their house under castle doctrine. If the owner of the store robbed grabbed a gun and shot him in the back many feet away, the owner would be brought up on charges, would they not? Why should cops be held to a lower standard?
originally posted by: TKDRL
All three witnesses don't all agree perfectly on what happened in the beginning, but they all agree that he was shot in the back, then had his hands up and was shot more after the fact.
originally posted by: TKDRL
That is the damning part of it IMO. He was unarmed, could not have possibly reached the cop when he was shot in the back, and definitely could not have done no harm once he was shot and had his hands up.
originally posted by: TKDRL
So far it's 3 people saying one thing, and a cop saying another.
originally posted by: TKDRL
And damnit, I hope the HHS decide to give them some damn cameras instead of weapons. No excuse this day and age to not have police cars equipped with cameras. Hell, their guns, and stun guns should have cameras as well, let alone vehicles. GRRRRRR
Police in Ferguson, Missouri, once charged a man with destruction of property for bleeding on their uniforms while four of them allegedly beat him.