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The article is more focused on the fact that most mass murders were done that has absolutely no connection with religion.
It did not matter if an individual believed in a specific religion or not. If the reason for the war did not have to do with religion than it is not a religious war.
Thread title: Atheism, not religion, is the real force behind the mass murders of history
originally posted by: defcon5
originally posted by: Badgered1
Mao was a Marxist-Leninist Communist - atheism wasn't the catalyst.
Stalin was a Bolshevk/Communist - atheism wasn't the catalyst.
Pol Pot was a Marxist/Communist - atheism wasn't the catalyst.
Atheism is not a belief system, and has no creed. No agenda.
It was a catalyst. Part of creating communism is to remove any god and replace it with the state. If you don't give people a higher power to 'worship', you can't expect them to overrule their natural selfish tendencies, and peacefully submit to a communist system. Most just won't do it. Since they could never force all their citizens to believe in a single religion, they removed all religion, and replaced it with state worship.
- Why do people need a higher power to worship? Perhaps the communists recognized the division and, sectarianism inherent to religion and thought it better not to have that sort of thing. History shows how awfully the religions get on with each other.
If you don't give people a higher power to 'worship', you can't expect them to overrule their natural selfish tendencies, and peacefully submit to a communist system.
“My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian
and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.
Adolf Hitler was a professed Christian (Roman Catholic) and believed wholeheartedly that he was doing the Lord's work.
antiquity was better than modern times because it did not know Christianity and syphilis.
My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before in the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.... When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom to-day this poor people is plundered and exploited.
I think he used Christianity when it was to his advantage. Just like so many others…
In 1936, the Reich Church was created. This did not have the Christian cross as its symbol but the swastika. The Bible was replaced by "Mein Kampf" which was placed on the altar. By it was a sword. Only invited Nazis were allowed to give sermons in a Reich Church. (Source)
Still, the smug attitude of the sign-holder guy was quite, well, instigative.
originally posted by: CB328
What about all the "honor" killings and people here who kill their kids because they think god told them to? While not war I bet those totals are pretty high after thousands of years.
Also, if atheists are such killers how come they never kill anyone now, while religious people kill people left and right?
I had excellent opportunity to intoxicate myself with the solemn splendor of the brilliant church festivals. As was only natural, the abbot seemed to me, as the village priest had once seemed to my father, the highest and most desirable ideal.
Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.
Even today I am not ashamed to say that, overpowered by stormy enthusiasm, I fell down on my knees and thanked Heaven from an overflowing heart for granting me the good fortune of being permitted to live at this time.
The greatness of Christianity did not lie in attempted negotiations for compromise with any similar philosophical opinions in the ancient world, but in its inexorable fanaticism in preaching and fighting for its own doctrine.