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originally posted by: MessageforAll
I suspect that France and Germany will abandon ship with Europe if push comes to shove with Russia. So far the EU has done nothing but worsen the French economy and Germany is pretty much in the same boat.
This is only pure speculation, but still.
As for your pics or it didn't happen bs its getting childish. Apparently its all pro Russian supporters have left when trying to dismiss relevant info.
originally posted by: theabsolutetruth
a reply to: MessageforAll
A reported sighting by two Western journalists isn't proof.
originally posted by: theabsolutetruth
However, IMO Russia has every right to install military intervention for humanitarian purpose in Eastern Ukraine.
originally posted by: theabsolutetruth
They have the right to vote for independence from Ukraine as per democracy.
originally posted by: theabsolutetruth
Those people have been bombed and all sorts from the supposed government of their land all because they voted for independence due to persecution.
originally posted by: theabsolutetruth
Seeing as the US has aided other factions and lands with military intervention (Syria. Kurds etc to name a few), that makes the US utter hypocrites for even criticising Russia for doing so.
originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: jedi_hamster
Speaking of BS off topic comments feel free to point out in your post anything that is on topic...
As for your pics or it didn't happen bs its getting childish. Apparently its all pro Russian supporters have left when trying to dismiss relevant info.
Here is a concept - post facts which refute the claims being made. You have reports stating media personnel witnessed the Russian military vehicles crossing into Ukraine. You have the drivers of the convoys who are giving inconsistent statements about whether they are paid or are doing it for free, not to mention red cross officials who cant provide detailed info of Russia's supposed aid convoy.
You have Russia diverting the aid convoy to a border crossing controlled by rebels, which violated the agreement with Ukraine.
All on the record by both sides.
So feel free to support your no pics claims.
originally posted by: maghun
a reply to: jedi_hamster
pics taken on the ukrainian soil
Mostly russian vehicles destroyed.
originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: maghun
absolutely will they be made public not immediately.
Syria is a totally different situation - there, the Government began firing on unarmed protesters prompting the uprising and then, all they wanted was to not live under an authoritarian regime, not break away.
originally posted by: Flatcoat
a reply to: stumason
Syria is a totally different situation - there, the Government began firing on unarmed protesters prompting the uprising and then, all they wanted was to not live under an authoritarian regime, not break away.
And those U.S. funded rebels turned out to be such a nice bunch of guys, didn't they....The U.S. funds and arms madmen all over the world if it suits their agenda, so yes it's rank hypocrisy on the U.S's part.
originally posted by: nwtrucker
An intriguing thought re: a break-up of the European Union. Perhaps the underlying intent of this whole mess in the first place?
With the Euro-zone teetering as well, this could send the whole thing crashing down and, as you say, Russia could pick up 'allies' if not outright satellites as a result.
originally posted by: MrSpad
originally posted by: Flatcoat
a reply to: stumason
Syria is a totally different situation - there, the Government began firing on unarmed protesters prompting the uprising and then, all they wanted was to not live under an authoritarian regime, not break away.
And those U.S. funded rebels turned out to be such a nice bunch of guys, didn't they....The U.S. funds and arms madmen all over the world if it suits their agenda, so yes it's rank hypocrisy on the U.S's part.
Those backed rebels have been fighting ISIS longer than anybody else. So yes turns out they are nice bunch of guys. They have not managed to turn the local population against them by stealing everything they could get their hands on like those lovely rebels in Ukraine.