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6 Reasons To Question and Investigate 9/11 on the 13th Anniversary.

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posted on Aug, 15 2014 @ 03:38 AM
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By: Derrick Broze


“In the course of our investigation into the national response to the attacks, the 9/11 Commission staff discovered that the official version of what had occurred (the morning of September 11, 2001) – that is, what government and military officials had told Congress, the Commission, the media and the public about who knew what when – was almost entirely, and inexplicably untrue.”
- John Farmer, senior counsel to the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States





We are one month away from the thirteenth anniversary of the attacks of September 11, 2001. Since that time, America has undergone great changes as a result of the ensuing War on Terror. A number of wars have been launched by the American government and its allies. Questionable surveillance and security measures have been put into place, all in the name of keeping the people safe. Many Americans accept these changes as consequences of living in a post-9/11 world, where terror lurks behind every corner.

However, a growing number of individuals in America and around the world continue to question the events of that day, where the funding originated from, and who benefits from shunning any such questioning. Those asking these tough questions include survivors and family members of those who lost their lives on that fateful day. Despite the efforts of the corporate owned media to portray the 9/11 Truth movement as disrespectful or un-American, many people are realizing there are legitimate reasons why any critically thinking individual should support a new investigation into the attacks. Today we take a look at six of those reasons.




1. Lawsuits Against Saudi Arabia

Once it became clear that the Bush Administration was dragging its feet when it came to investigating 9/11, family members began investigations of their own and demanding the government do the same. As early as 2003 it had been reported by the New York Times that congressional reports pointed toward involvement of Saudi citizens, working at the behest of the Saudi government, in the funding of individuals responsible for the attacks. Because of this, family members, survivors, and insurance companies have been pursuing justice by attempting to sue various Saudi Arabian officials, and citizens, as well as charities, banks, and other organizations accused of financing the attacks.

The cases have been bogged down in bureaucracy and diplomatic immunity. First, in 2005 a federal District Court judge in New York said Saudi Arabia could not be sued. In 2008 an appeals court agreed with that ruling. In May 2009, Associate Justice of the Supreme Court Elena Kagan – at that time serving as U.S. solicitor general - urged the Supreme Court not to allow arguments against Saudi Arabia to proceed. The court agreed with Justice Kagan. Those decisions have recently been reversed however, and the lawsuits are now allowed to go forth. There is a catch however.

In late June of this year the Supreme Court ruled that lawsuits by family members and survivors could proceed, however, the justices allowed a previous ruling from a lower court which dismissed claims against 25 defendants, to stand. This means that relatives of Osama bin Laden and Saudi businesses reportedly connected to al-Qaida would not be allowed as defendants. This decision has angered critics, especially in light of the fact that two days after the 9/11 attacks, while all flight traffic was grounded, members of the bin Laden family were allowed to fly out of the county. Close financial ties between the United States and the Saudi Arabian government has made the situation precarious for U.S. officials who do not wish to embarrass their allies. Several times Judges have ruled that Saudi Arabia is entitled to immunity under the federal Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act.

With the recent Supreme Court ruling it may only be a matter of time before the victims family members find the justice they seek. While public officials proclaim to be working to support the family members, there seems to be a concerted effort to keep certain details from being released. In February 2014, watchdog group Judicial Watch revealed 79 pages of documents from the FBI further detailing the Saudi connection.

6 Reasons To Question and Investigate 9/11




posted on Aug, 15 2014 @ 03:44 AM
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When you have the general consul of the Kean/Zelikow Commission pretty much admitting that there are some major problems with the entire offical storyline then you must wonder just what they and the government haven't told us.We have the the redacted 28 pages of the Joint Congressional Intelligence report and the many questions about funding and sponsorship of the entire attack.All these suits like to talk about how much they care about the families and 1st responders they sure do everything in their power to sweep them away and keep hidden anything at all that could actually lead to the closure they claim they want to help them find.



posted on Aug, 15 2014 @ 05:43 AM
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a reply to: mike dangerously



However, a growing number of individuals in America and around the world continue to question the events of that day,

I quit reading after that.
You are wrong. Just look at the number of postings here.



posted on Aug, 15 2014 @ 11:58 PM
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a reply to: mike dangerously


You might want to do a little bit of research on what Mr Farmer actually thinks, because, you are at best quote mining and at worst, deliberately misleading people.

911reports.wordpress.com...

"BF- Interesting, hold the thought there, John (break) John, you were speaking of, before the break about some of the things that you were told and the public was told and the Commission was told that were, quote, “almost entirely and inexplicably ‘untrue’”; you refer to the fact that, uh, the claim that they could have ‘taken out’ Flight 93 if they had wanted to, that they had within their sights, and so on and so forth- why would- why do you suspect some of these stories would have been told, that were so wildly inaccurate, as you describe them?

JF- I think there was an effort to, um, uh, to make the government look ‘better’ than it was that day- to make the national command structure, um, seem, uh, like it was more in control than it was in those critical moments, and I think in doing that, one of the unfortunate byproducts was that they obscured some of the really important lessons from that morning, among which are- you know, how critical decisions are actually made in a crit- in a cataclysmic situation like that, and the essential estrangement of the top levels from the people on the ground who actually had to improvise the national defense- was important, because we saw replicated a few years later in Hurricane Katrina- completely different kind of event, uh, in fact not a surprise at all, something that had been planned for, for years- but when it actually hit, the same kind of dynamic occurred, where people on the ground in New Orleans were waiting for word from the upper levels of government and there was a disconnect in communications and difficulty communicating, they didn’t have the authority to make critical decisions, and I think one of the things that comes out of this study that I think is important, is the imperative that we actually plan to deal with these crises the way they’re actually experienced, as opposed according to some, uh, you know- organization chart."

So, he believes that the "untrue" part, was the story in the days after 9/11/01, that our Government's response was a well-oiled one, when the truth...that the Commission found....was that the response was nothing short of a charlie-foxtrot.

Finally, Mr. Farmer had this to say about the Report....

"JF- Well, let me just say that I think the report is, uh, extremely accurate, and- and sets forth the facts of 9/11. And we actually did point out in the report the discrepancies between the accounts that were given and what we actually found. But what’s different is, you know, in this account is, I think, by telling it structurally differently- in other words, in the Commission Report we told it flight by flight, as much for the sake of clarity as anything else, so you could understand with each flight what happened. That’s not the way it was lived, though, by the people who had to respond, and that’s what this book does- it tells the story, uh, almost from their perspective- when everything’s flying at them at once. And I think the value of that is that you can see that, uh, taken as a whole, you can see that the real enemy of preparedness is bureaucracy, and that’s tough nut to crack but I think it’s the one we have to, if we’re gonna be better in the future."

So, he clearly believes that the Report is an accurate accounting of the reality of that day.


AND one little tidbit that did not come out for security reasons (and also one of the reasons why Bush and Cheney testified together, closed door, and not under oath) . On that day the President, had times were he was out of contact due to the communications systems on Air Force One. The following article, does not mention that day, but the upgrade was in response to that day and was the second of two upgrades.

www.extremetech.com...



posted on Aug, 16 2014 @ 01:05 AM
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a reply to: mike dangerouslyI think the Elites of the world have cases against most countries which enables them to tumble a regime or to discredit an ideology anytime they wish...Every government has it's serious flaws that have been nicely covered by the big boys media and left aside to use against them in a moment of an urgent need...9/11 is also a big one ready to be dropped on capitalism and Zionism when the time is right...Genocide of the Palestinians by the Israelis,Saudi Arabia's financing terrorism,neglecting human rights and their monarchy's pedophilia,British government's corruption and their interferences in other nations affairs,,plus many other governmental frauds and atrocities all over the world gives the TPTB the strong weapon to be used against anybody at any given time...Lets think about it ,they can discharge any government in the world if they decide to blow their cover and show it publicly on the media.The only reason they don't is just that it's time isn't up yet.



posted on Aug, 16 2014 @ 05:06 AM
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a reply to: cardinalfan0596




you are at best quote mining and at worst, deliberately misleading people.


unlike the 2008 OFFICIAL claim that a new physics phenomenon occurred ONLY on 9-11 to remove 105 vertical feet of structural mass to allow global unified acceleration equal to g. to occur.

a new form of "LOW TEMP thermal expansion" is claimed to REMOVE mass in WTC7 to allow the found CONSTANT acceleration equal to g. bu the initial 2005 NIST.


2008 NIST HYPOTHESIS crew claims.....

"the phenomenon that we saw on 9/11 that brought this particular building down was really thermal expansion, which occurs at lower temperatures."
....which is to explain the interval of constant acceleration equal to g. the 2005 NIST found occurring for 105 vertical feet, or 1/3 of the collapse, within the first half of the 6.5 second collapse.


NCSTAR 1A 3.6] "This free fall drop continues for approximately 8 stories, the distance traveled between t=1.75s and t=4.0s...constant, downward acceleration during this time interval. This acceleration was *9.8m/s^2*, equivalent to the acceleration of gravity."

NICSTAR 1A 4.3.4] Global Collapse..."The entire building above the buckled column region moved downward in a single unit, as observed, completing the global collapse"

NCSTAR1A p.39/130
"the damage from the debris from WTC 1 had little effect on initiating the collapse of WTC 7."



2005 scientific findings OFFICIALLY claimed in 2008 to be a 'brand new never before seen physics phenomenon"

they don't have to prove through science...why, because there is a Presidential Executive Order giving ANY Gov. agencey the right to withhold ANY info they deem necessary related to 9-11.



posted on Aug, 16 2014 @ 05:13 AM
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posted on Aug, 16 2014 @ 05:20 AM
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[SNIP]
edit on 16-8-2014 by elevatedone because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 16 2014 @ 06:24 AM
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a reply to: slipstreaming

Yes, there are ways to push an agenda.

Our job is to figure out how to push an agenda for the public good.



posted on Aug, 16 2014 @ 06:28 AM
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posted on Aug, 16 2014 @ 06:32 AM
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a reply to: Mary Rose

And Mary, the only reason why "new" people question that day is because of one of three things 1. There memory has failed them 2. They were too young to remember that day or 3. They have discovered a conspiracy site and do not realize that there are very few 9/11 conspiracy theories that have not been demolished by facts and research.....well then there is the people that get banned every day and make new accounts who post from preliminary meetings and never bother to read final reports......



posted on Aug, 16 2014 @ 07:18 AM
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a reply to: cardinalfan0596

wow.....the delusional mind of an official story pusher

instead of telling the post above is wrong.....how bout showing it is wrong.




most of the posts I see, just show that you really aren't all the knowledgeable outside of what you find on conspiracy sites.



all of the postings I see you are referring to basically demand you prove the official claims pushed as truth.

that is not going to be accomplished by constantly attacking the person posting the message...it is done by showing the information false/wrong/a lie.




who post from preliminary meetings and never bother to read final reports


if you are referring to...

"the phenomenon that we saw on 9/11 that brought this particular building down was really thermal expansion, which occurs at lower temperatures."



that is the OFFICIAL 2008 NIST WTC 7 Technical Briefing for the structural community with a special phone-in Q&A.

their first admission that the removal of structural resistance including...105 vertical feet of LOAD BEARING continuous vertical support....
8 floors of truss assemblies with carrier beams...
lateral, cross, and diagonal bracing throughout...
tens of thousands of bolts and welds...
Interior partitions...
office contents...
utilities....

...was accomplished by a new physics process never before seen in a steel framed building....for a never before seen event in a steel framed building......hell, ANY building throughout history for that matter...nothing mimicked what we see WTC7 do...for any reason.

where a new phenomenon REMOVES structural mass to CONSTANTLY accelerate at the SAME rate as it you jumped off an 8 story building to the ground.
we see it did so globally and unified......meaning if every member was NOT removed, we will see it reflected on the exterior of the building...but we don't see that...during the FFA, WE SEE unified even descent, constantly accelerating equal to g.



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posted on Aug, 17 2014 @ 02:13 AM
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originally posted by: cardinalfan0596
a reply to: Mary Rose

And Mary, the only reason why "new" people question that day is because of one of three things 1. There memory has failed them 2. They were too young to remember that day or 3. They have discovered a conspiracy site and do not realize that there are very few 9/11 conspiracy theories that have not been demolished by facts and research.....well then there is the people that get banned every day and make new accounts who post from preliminary meetings and never bother to read final reports......
The fact is that an airplane can not possibly crash a concrete and steel super hi rise building with a solid fat ass steel core all by itself, let alone another building in a fairly far distance,, that is just insane! and you know it...There are simply too much evidence against the official story to put on words again,and everyone is aware of them...The problem is that people have no power over the big propaganda machine and their money and influence that force feeds almost anything to the masses...But i am sure someday the covers will shatter and the truth will be revealed and History will tell a lot about this evil incident.



posted on Aug, 17 2014 @ 02:22 AM
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a reply to: shapur

And you, labor under misconceptions...especially the "solid fat ass steel core" part. There are other examples of steel and concrete buildings that have failed from fire alone. On 9/11 we had three buildings fail from fire and damage. But, in the interest of fairness, what evidence do you have that the official story is wrong?
edit on 17-8-2014 by cardinalfan0596 because: fixed a misspelling



posted on Aug, 17 2014 @ 03:19 AM
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a reply to: cardinalfan0596Ok here we go,,Fire can not reach a certain temp enough to effectively melt! steel cores...The remaining steels were immediately shipped to an unknown destination eliminating the chance of a further investigations...The documents showing the debris from the 'plane' hit the pentagon was never entirely released...Building 7 could have not possibly been demolished all by itself! while burning lots of important and strategic documents in their files...Everyone saw dancing Israelis! lol...The conversations between the victims and their families sounds fake despite all censorship and edits...7 out of every ten pilots asked the question said they can not possibly hit the target in that altitude so precise,but we are expected to believe that a couple of inexperienced cave men pilots could have pulled it out just right!?...The explosives on the live pictures of the event showed that it helped the demolition to be perfect and symetrical...The cartoonish reaction of the W when they gave him the news...The new world order scenario...invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan and starting a "war" on terrorism...The timing of the event that is just right to redirect the peoples attention from their serious economical challenges and to big bad Iran,Iraq and NK??!...The eye witnesses stories...Interviews with engineers,pilots demolishing operators,etc,... The plane that allowed certain Saudis to literally flee the country shortly after the event...common sense...The fact that there were not many important Jews living at the buildings at the time of the incident...suspicious cargo entering the buildings weeks before the event...I can go on for ever if you like but i guess you got my drift.



posted on Aug, 17 2014 @ 04:04 AM
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I've known since around 2006 that 9/11 was an inside job/false flag/staged attack.

The primary source for that conclusion was the book 9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made in USA by Webster Griffin Tarpley.

I highly recommend that book.

Tarpley has his own website and here is the biography he has posted for himself:


Webster Griffin Tarpley
Webster Griffin Tarpley (Pittsfield, Massachusetts, 1946) is a philosopher of history who seeks to provide the programs and strategies needed to overcome the current world crisis. As an activist historian he first became widely known for his book George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography (1992), a masterpiece of research which is still a must read. AB Princeton 1966, summa cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa; Fulbright Scholar at University of Turin, Italy; MA in humanities from Skidmore College; and Ph.D. in early modern history from the Catholic University of America with emphasis on the role of Venice in the origins of the Thirty Years’ War (1618-1648). He has addressed audiences in Italian, German, and French. A decades-long expert on international terrorism, his 1978 study commissioned by an Italian government minister and entitled “Chi ha ucciso Aldo Moro?” (Who Killed Aldo Moro?) broke open the ownership of the Red Brigades by NATO’s clandestine networks.

During 2008, he warned of the dangers of an Obama presidency controlled by Wall Street with Obama: The Postmodern Coup, The Making of a Manchurian Candidate and Barack H. Obama: The Unauthorized Biography. His interest in economics is reflected in Surviving the Cataclysm: Your Guide Through the Worst Financial Crisis in Human History [Against Oligarchy - sic]. He is currently completing a study of Pearl Harbor as an episode in Wall Street’s war against President Franklin D. Roosevelt, the New Deal, and FDR’s economic bill of rights. His books have appeared in Japanese, German, Italian, French, and Spanish.

tarpley.net...


I see he doesn't mention the 9/11 book in his biography, but if you scroll down the page you'll see it. It's now in its 5th edition; it was first published in 2005.



posted on Aug, 17 2014 @ 04:08 AM
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a reply to: shapur

And, you provide a stunning illustration of point 3 in my earlier post. A poster who does not realize that the evidence they post has been demolished long ago.

1. "Fire can not reach a certain temp enough to effectively melt steel"

Actually, yes, fire can get hot enough to melt steel. However, you do not have to melt structural steel to get it to fail. You only have to heat enough to cause it to soften. In the case of structural steel that would be around 1,000 degrees F. WELL within the temps from a burning petroleum fire. Then there is this.

www.mace.manchester.ac.uk...

That is the report on the fire at the Madrid Windsor Tower on 12 February 2005. What is notable about it, is that floors 18-28 saw its structural steel fail and collapse, from fire alone. The structure had not suffered ANY damage and yet the structural steel failed from just FIRE.

2. " The remaining steel were immediately shipped to an unknown destination eliminating the chance of further investigations"

Well, the last of the wreckage was not removed from the site until May of 2002, "immeadiately" does not really match with reality. But lets look at the part about the "unknown destination" part.

The reality, the steel all went to one of several landfills in the New York/New Jersey area. Investigators had full access and were able to examine the steel and also mark for preservation pieces that were from the impact/collapse initiation points. Only then, was steel allowed to be sold for scrap to numerous locations in the United States AND abroad, including this...

www.ussnewyork.com...

"The sixth New York (LPD-21) is an amphibious transport dock currently under construction. Some of the metal used comes from the rubble of the World Trade Center."

3. "Documents showing the debris from the 'plane' hit the Pentagon was never entirely released"

It is not hard to do a search and find pictures of Flight 77's wreckage at the Pentagon.

www.911myths.com...
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4. "Building 7 could have not possibly been demolished all by itself"

Building 7, suffered catastrophic damage when WTC 1 collapsed and carved a twenty story chunk out of it. FDNY, was afraid that 7 was going to fall early on from the damage they could see, let alone the fires they were watching grow in it.

5. "Important and strategic documents"

Internet falsehood. There was nothing of strategic importance WTC 7 that was not also stored somewhere else.

6. The "dancing Israelis" Read and learn...

www.911myths.com...

7. Conversations between victims and families sounds fake

Not even sure what you mean with this one.

8. " 7 out of every 10 pilots"

Yeah, um, just about every pilot in my Air Guard unit was an airline pilot in civilian life, and none of them thought it would be that hard for a pilot to do. And since the hijackers, had licensed pilots with them................

9. Cave men

Most of the hijackers, had college education. Only arrogant people would assume they were no better than cave men.

10. "The explosives on the live pictures of the event"

Sorry, absolutely no trace of explosives have EVER been found. And that would include the hush a boom nano thermite crowd.

11 'Perfect and symmetrical....."

.....does not take out six other buildings.

12. "The cartoonish reaction of W"

I would love to see YOUR reaction to something similar.

13. "The plane that allowed certain Saudis to literally flee the country"

I can only guess that you are referring to the plane that carried members of the Bin Laden family out of the United States.....which only happened AFTER the FBI questioned them and AFTER normal air traffic had resumed.

14. "The fact that there were not many important Jews living in the buildings at the time"

Well, since they were all OFFICE buildings and not apartment buildings, NO ONE lived in them (with the exception of the Marriott Hotel that was part of the WTC Complex) Read the list of the WTC victims, there are PLENTY of Jewish names on it.

As I said, you posted a bunch of stuff that has been demolished long ago.



posted on Aug, 17 2014 @ 04:10 AM
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a reply to: Mary Rose

Why do you "know" it was an inside job? A book based on someone who makes a living peddling conspiracy theories?



posted on Aug, 17 2014 @ 04:19 AM
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a reply to: cardinalfan0596

That's your opinion.

I disagree with it.

I've heard many interviews of him and I trust my intuition about where he's coming from.





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