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Anyone who watched news reports of the Ferguson riots last night was likely shocked to see images that appeared to be from a foreign war zone. Police units from the 21,000-resident suburb wielded rifles, tear gas and riot gear, stood next to Ballistic Engineered Armored Response Counter Attack Truck (known as a BearCat) and wore camouflage, solidifying their image as a militarized force.
The Ferguson Police Department is part of a federal program 1033 that distributes hundreds of millions of dollars of surplus military gear to police forces across the country and touts the motto “From Warfighter to Crimefighter.” According to the program’s website, the 1033 program has redistributed more than $4.3 billion worth of property since it began in 1997, and $449,309,003.71 worth of property just last year, the most money ever given as part of this program.
A congressional report in 1972 recommended centralizing the disposal of United States Department of Defense (DoD) property for better accountability. In response, on September 12, 1972, the Defense Supply Agency (now known as the Defense Logistics Agency) established the Defense Property Disposal Service (renamed the Defense Reutilization and Marketing Service in 1985) in Battle Creek, Michigan, as a primary-level field activity. On July 19, 2010, as part of a "We Are DLA" initiative, the Defense Reutilization and Marketing Service was renamed the Defense Logistics Agency Disposition Services.
The DoD Excess Property Program (1033 program, formerly the 1208 program[5]) is a Defense Logistics Agency program to transfer leftover military materiel (supplies and equipment) to U.S. state and local civilian law enforcement agencies. The surplus equipment includes grenade launchers, helicopters, military robots, M-16 assault rifles, armored vehicles, riverboats, Battle Dress Uniform clothing, and information technology equipment.[6] In 2011, the program resulted in the DoD giving away nearly $500 million worth of equipment, while in 2010, $212 million in gear were distributed.[
“The militarization itself is part of a larger trend … It is a mentality that sees the people they are supposed to be serving not as citizens with rights but as potential threats.”
“As the saying goes, if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.”
originally posted by: TorqueyThePig
There is not one thing that I can think of that the police department owns that a citizen can't own.
So you do not feel that police departments (Im not speaking of just Ferguson) should have shields, helmets, batons, less lethal weapons, AR-15's and armored vehicles?
originally posted by: TorqueyThePig
There is not one thing that I can think of that the police department owns that a citizen can't own.
So you do not feel that police departments (Im not speaking of just Ferguson) should have shields, helmets, batons, less lethal weapons, AR-15's and armored vehicles?
originally posted by: TorqueyThePig
a reply to: CallmeRaskolnikov
When speaking of free states I don't count NY and CA. A few others fit on that list too.
I am sorry you live there. I do not believe or support draconian gun control laws.
I live in Florida and in most states a citizen can own a short barreled rifle, a fully auto rifle, a suppressor, body armor, forms of CS style gas, pepper spray, pepper launchers and even armored vehicles.
Perhaps you can get out there and show them how it is done. No helmet and shield for you though.
originally posted by: TorqueyThePig
a reply to: EyesOpenMouthShut
You are comparing apples to oranges man.
In Iraq a drone strike would of just been called in and the hundreds of dead innocents would of been considered collateral damage.
originally posted by: TorqueyThePig
a reply to: CallmeRaskolnikov
When speaking of free states I don't count NY and CA. A few others fit on that list too.
I am sorry you live there. I do not believe or support draconian gun control laws.
I live in Florida and in most states a citizen can own a short barreled rifle, a fully auto rifle, a suppressor, body armor, forms of CS style gas, pepper spray, pepper launchers and even armored vehicles.
I'll say this: I have yet to see a protest in which the protesters were in full riot gear, heavily armed with armored vehicles.
As a consequence of the war zone police have turned Ferguson, Missouri, into during the past few days, Democratic Rep. Hank Johnson of Georgia's 4th Congressional District will introduce a bill to end the federal government's program of providing billions of dollars worth of military equipment free to local police.