a reply to: corsair00
our entire civilization is not bible/jesus orientated
(and we already know "religion" is a sham)
yes, it still has its uses in the 21st century, like how all those "devil-people" legal institutions that make us swear on a bible, or
secret-societies that 'use' the bible, etc
…12you no longer permit him to do anything for his father or his mother;
13thus invalidating the word of God by your tradition which you have handed down; and you do many things such as that."
i'm not exactly sure of this 'terror campaign' you mentioned, as the bible instructs the faithful with;
But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in
with meekness and fear
(the only 'terror' i see, is what comes from the system.. and because i have faith in the bible it doesn't terrify me in the slightest)
why else would they be doing all this # to us?
if there is no meaning, no purpose, no God.. then just get on with the great work of the ages
you know as well as i do, that "something" is up
..what can you make of it *without* the foundation?
As for the soul itself and people's own morality and issues, even for the ones that do not believe in the bible, do their souls still end
up playing a part in the dual-nature of Heaven vs Hell?
..why extend the matter?
we already know 'the basics' of what the bible claims here
think of it like time served in prison.. the person dies (is released) .:. sentence over; tetelesti
reincarnation (soul evolution) presents the same problem; we're being presented with a story where beings from another sphere of existence cross-over
into a lesser sphere
the bible says they will be punished for this
meanwhile everything else is happy to present them as cavorting lads, squirting water on bikini babes with magic syringe devices, then splitting
themself up into 1000 units to marry them all.. or explaining how ancient (nuclear?) wars were fought with these guys hurling the power of a 1000 suns
at one another.. but hey, this is all just the way of things, cycles within cycles, so sit back & strap in for the next 'cycle' of mayhem
..oh, and reincarnation stresses improvement (ideally, burning off karma, etc) so how come the world isn't slowly becoming a better place? ..kali
yuga? (just another cycle of mayhem?)
..and people will just chide, "why are we humans so stupid?", "oh, when will we learn?"
..well, apparently never in this setup?
but it's all good, because it'll just be endless cycles upon cycles, and we'll somehow give meaning to it?
the problem is just that 'soul' business & the means to utilize it fully
the bible says it can be destroyed (by God) if we # up
everything else says, "nah we're in control" so do as thou will
..but we're not in control, are we?
..we know a bunch of twisted units (devil people) are in control, don't we?
we just want to 'define' what empowers them, or something..
if we're gonna entertain that, we ought to entertain notions of hierachy
(else if there were no structure like this, it'd just be a spiritual free-for-all)
do you think just maybe, there is one big, bad hencho heading this up from the other side?
(demiurgos.. & that ain't my 'God')
I have a feeling there is room for 'purgatory'... and ghosts too, perhaps ghosthood is part of purgatory.
…18For Christ also died for sins once for all, the just for the unjust, so that He might bring us to God, having been put to death in the flesh, but
made alive in the spirit; 19in which also He went and made proclamation to the spirits now in prison, 20who once were disobedient, when the
patience of God kept waiting in the days of Noah,
during the construction of the ark, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely
through the water.…
prison/purgatory? (..apparently they're still doing time?)
watching 'What Dreams May Come'
ok, so this is something we'd probably both refer to as new-age programming, wouldn't we?
(...probably don't even have to indulge this any further, but i will)
seinfeld (ep7) "the pony remark"
GEORGE: Bender? He can’t play left. He stinks. I just don’t see what purpose is it gonna serve your going? I mean, you think dead peole care
who’s at their funeral? They don’t even know they’re having a funeral. It’s not like she’s hanging out in the back going, “I can’t
believe Jerry didn’t show up.”
ELAINE: Maybe she’s there in spirit. How about that?
GEORGE: If you’re a spirit, and you can travel to other dimensions and galaxies, and find out the mysteries of the universe, you think she’s gonna
wanna hang around Drexler’s funeral home on Ocean Parkway?
ELAINE: George, I met this woman. She is not traveling to any other dimensions.
GEORGE: You know how easy it is for dead people to travel? It’s not like getting on a bus. One second. (snaps his fingers) It’s all mental.
seinfeld's a pretty cool show.. with all those obelisks, baseball "diamonds" & whatnot in the background
Assuming that imagination is largely what creates one's own 'Afterlife'...
yeah, another reason why none of this 'bothers' me..
if i'm wrong on all this (according to Jane Roberts; seth material) some benevolent entity just shapeshifts between various deities & blends them all
together until i "get it"
and if there's no 'meaning' when (and if) i get there.. i can just make my own (hurp)
Consequently, all over the internet right now, particularly in New Age forums, people are debating whether or not Robin Williams' own soul is
"damned to Hell" or negative karma and reincarnation because of his suicide
of course they are.. meanwhile idiots like us just know better
My impression is that this "demiurge" doesn't mind the idea of people doing things like killing themselves
the masons were out in force BBQ'ing up a storm for all those poor souls in the QLD floods not too long ago
(the ant-farm was in trouble)
the overall extent of his life's work would be the true karma points to determine what happens to his soul
..they obviously subscribe to the self-empowerment-mastery-of-my-own-soul-i-can-become-a-god school of thought
…3You ask and do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, so that you may spend it on your pleasures. 4You adulteresses, do you not know
that friendship with the world is hostility toward God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God. 5Or do you
think that the Scripture speaks to no purpose: "He jealously desires the Spirit which He has made to dwell in us"?…
(and i didn't even need God to tell me that i already know i hate this world)
This is where the "grey area" comes back, as it seems obvious to me that such things as the ultimate destiny of one's soul after death
cannot be either black or white
*chuckles* yeah, even after all this, i know what you mean..
(but my position is clearer now)
THIS WORLD SUCKS & BLOWS if there's no God, the next world's gonna suck too
As for FOX News, I don't watch it much, but I consider it entertainment.
(pmsl) i knew you'd be in that particular 'box'
thanks for being here