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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: ChesterJohn
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: ChesterJohn
Um... A cab company is a private company and manages the religious activities of its employees however it wants. That is, without the government's influence.
Your examples of christian persecution are hyperbole. First off a teacher in a public school is under government domain so that is certainly something that can be cracked down on because it isn't right or legal. You are going to have to produce evidence of Christian sports teams and prayer groups being cracked down on. It just looks like a bunch of anecdotal evidence to me.
In fact, please start sourcing your claims. You seem to be making many accusations of persecution against Christianity but haven't produced ANY sources or links to back those claims up. The one story I was familiar with, showed that you were HIGHLY exaggerating what was going on. So source your claims!
Cab companies don't own the streets they blocked my taxes paid for that.
get a life you just hate Christians just admit it and move on.
Well those cab companies would get a ticket for blocking the street if a police officer saw them. Religious practice (without a permit) is no reason to stop traffic on a busy street. So I'm saying you are wrong here.
Though the other part is an ad hominem attack. Well done sir, you just displayed one of the petty last resorts of someone with a terrible argument in the process of being utterly defeated. I've laid down point after point explaining why you are wrong and instead of refuting ANY OF THEM you stoop to insulting my character.
originally posted by: ChesterJohn
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: ChesterJohn
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: ChesterJohn
Um... A cab company is a private company and manages the religious activities of its employees however it wants. That is, without the government's influence.
Your examples of christian persecution are hyperbole. First off a teacher in a public school is under government domain so that is certainly something that can be cracked down on because it isn't right or legal. You are going to have to produce evidence of Christian sports teams and prayer groups being cracked down on. It just looks like a bunch of anecdotal evidence to me.
In fact, please start sourcing your claims. You seem to be making many accusations of persecution against Christianity but haven't produced ANY sources or links to back those claims up. The one story I was familiar with, showed that you were HIGHLY exaggerating what was going on. So source your claims!
Cab companies don't own the streets they blocked my taxes paid for that.
get a life you just hate Christians just admit it and move on.
Well those cab companies would get a ticket for blocking the street if a police officer saw them. Religious practice (without a permit) is no reason to stop traffic on a busy street. So I'm saying you are wrong here.
Though the other part is an ad hominem attack. Well done sir, you just displayed one of the petty last resorts of someone with a terrible argument in the process of being utterly defeated. I've laid down point after point explaining why you are wrong and instead of refuting ANY OF THEM you stoop to insulting my character.
There were cops there and they did nothing. But if a Christian groups stood even 30 feet near a planned parenthood outlet with the hopes of saving one child from death. they are arrested and ticked for blocking the sidewalk.
Again the hypocrisy is blatant on so many levels.
originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Krazysh0t
I didn't say Anabaptist I said baptist. that is what the romans catholic called them in a document dated to the 1200's. If i can get the name or link of the document for you I will post it so you can read it for your self.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Krazysh0t
I didn't say Anabaptist I said baptist. that is what the romans catholic called them in a document dated to the 1200's. If i can get the name or link of the document for you I will post it so you can read it for your self.
Yes you did, but you edited your post. The reason I know this is because I had never heard of the denomination of anabaptist and that's why I looked it up. I am testing your claims when I can, because frankly I don't trust the words coming out of your mouth as the truth. Everything you post is sensationalized, exaggerated, or anecdotal.
The taxi drivers are double and triple parking in a huge line that forces traffic into the oncoming lane.
The situation has flared up and on one occasion a cop telling a taxi driver to move on was swarmed by other hacks - and had to call for reinforcements.
When several other police cars arrived the taxi driver was handcuffed and led away.
originally posted by: ChesterJohn
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Krazysh0t
I didn't say Anabaptist I said baptist. that is what the romans catholic called them in a document dated to the 1200's. If i can get the name or link of the document for you I will post it so you can read it for your self.
Yes you did, but you edited your post. The reason I know this is because I had never heard of the denomination of anabaptist and that's why I looked it up. I am testing your claims when I can, because frankly I don't trust the words coming out of your mouth as the truth. Everything you post is sensationalized, exaggerated, or anecdotal.
wouldn't you want to correct your post if you made a mistake?
Baptist historian Bruce Gourley outlines four main views of Baptist origins: (1) The modern scholarly consensus that the movement traces its origin to the 17th century via the English Separatists, (2) the view that it was an outgrowth of Anabaptist traditions, (3) the perpetuity view which assumes that the Baptist faith and practice has existed since the time of Christ, and (4) the successionist view, or "Baptist successionism", which argues that Baptist churches actually existed in an unbroken chain since the time of Christ.[3]
Since the end of the 19th century the trend in academic Baptist historiography has been away from the successionist viewpoint to the view that modern day Baptists are an outgrowth of 17th century English Separatism.[9] This shift precipitated a controversy among Southern Baptists which occasioned the forced resignation of William H. Whitsitt, a professor at Southern Baptist Seminary, in 1898 from the seminary for advocating the new view, though his views continued to be taught in the seminary after his departure.[10]
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: ChesterJohn
So I'm reading the article you just provided and it doesn't look like the state is ok with this as you originally claimed.
The taxi drivers are double and triple parking in a huge line that forces traffic into the oncoming lane.
The situation has flared up and on one occasion a cop telling a taxi driver to move on was swarmed by other hacks - and had to call for reinforcements.
When several other police cars arrived the taxi driver was handcuffed and led away.
So what's the problem? The state isn't sanctioning this activity.
originally posted by: ChesterJohn
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: ChesterJohn
So I'm reading the article you just provided and it doesn't look like the state is ok with this as you originally claimed.
The taxi drivers are double and triple parking in a huge line that forces traffic into the oncoming lane.
The situation has flared up and on one occasion a cop telling a taxi driver to move on was swarmed by other hacks - and had to call for reinforcements.
When several other police cars arrived the taxi driver was handcuffed and led away.
So what's the problem? The state isn't sanctioning this activity.
Yep and the state is not sanctioning before school and after school prayer either, But in supplying muslims with during school rooms to pray, that do interrupt class schedules.
Well, given that, we find the claim to be not only false but ridiculous: Pants on Fire.
I am surprised with all the various news site you read you are not so balanced or tolerant, and that you haven't read the stories I have on those very same sites.
It show you are more anti-christian than any other religion just like the OP states about these so called anti-religion groups.
originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
People can "do good" without having to claim a "God."
originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: ChesterJohn
Reality check... what most atheist or humanist groups call for is ending Christian favoritism. In the case of Muslim prayer rooms... it isn't favoritism it's just simple logic, A Christian can bow their head or close their eyes anytime anywhere and pray to God and their religious beliefs don't include having to pray at a certain time during the day or to do it a certain way. Muslims pray differently and their beliefs include praying at certain times of the day and it involves getting down and prostrating yourself, not practical for the classroom.
As far as the school denying a Bible group praying at the schools flag, the school didn't say Christians only can't pray here and probably only the Christian group asked in the first place. This is a really, really, REALLY simple concept here... government and anything funded by it is not supposed to sanction ANY religion but Christianity essentially has been sanctioned by the government across the entire United States. So while SOME Christians are brainwashed into thinking they are under attack because PEOPLE, for example, want the Ten Commandments removed from courthouses... in reality it's just PEOPLE wanting to get out from under the influence of Christianity where NO religion belonged to begin with.
originally posted by: Specimen
Christianity should be more scared of Christianity.
Cause at least the atheists ain't torturing, burning, murdering like the christians did a few centuries ago.
Instead of burning witchs, should b *itchs.
originally posted by: RickinVa
a reply to: AnteBellum
Just wow.
Never knew I was anti-american.
I don't have a problem with religion as long as it stays in the church.
Some people believe in a God. Some people believe in a mythical creature called "Bigfoot". Neither exists
originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: grandmakdw
And it is humanity itself that can be the most destructive to other human beings. Humanity is the greatest threat to itself.
I agree with you there.
Humanity is also the lot that came up with "religion." Do you think we might someday outgrow it?
originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: ChesterJohn
Either get on with the truth of Equality of all religions to practice in the public or all not to be able to practice in public. Otherwise they are just Hypocrites.
Maybe practicing in public (especially when at least SOME of the "public" that are present are not all keen on the ideas) is the problem.
Can't they keep it private?
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: ChesterJohn
Um... A cab company is a private company and manages the religious activities of its employees however it wants. That is, without the government's influence.
Your examples of christian persecution are hyperbole. First off a teacher in a public school is under government domain so that is certainly something that can be cracked down on because it isn't right or legal. You are going to have to produce evidence of Christian sports teams and prayer groups being cracked down on. It just looks like a bunch of anecdotal evidence to me.
In fact, please start sourcing your claims. You seem to be making many accusations of persecution against Christianity but haven't produced ANY sources or links to back those claims up. The one story I was familiar with, showed that you were HIGHLY exaggerating what was going on. So source your claims!
originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: ChesterJohn
I have another thread from last year that has most of those links however I don't need to back up what is true. Just because you haven't read the stories doesn't mean their not true.
Try reading a little more foxnews and be a little more balanced.
LOL!!
I DO read Foxnews, and also TheBlaze, and also Huffington post, and CNN, and NPR, and Consortium News, and Alternet.....
I get a balanced view of it.
Do you??
And yes, you DO need to back up what you claim is true. Fox is not "true".