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Liberals Urge Southern Secession on Gamechanger Salon

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posted on Aug, 13 2014 @ 05:04 PM
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originally posted by: CB328
So, everyone in here posting that blue states suck, is that love and compassion or something??



I, nor anyone I know, wants out of the United States of America


Oh come on, Rick Perry and a bunch of other republican politicians have talked about it. I think it would be good as long as their moderates move up here and leave all the right wingers down there.


I'm sorry, did I mention politicians? I was referring to REAL people that I know personally. And we are American's first, Texan's second. I take great offense at you or anyone else talking as though you know how I and others feel. I respect your right to have an opinion, but you and your cohort need to learn some manners. At this point, you and HauntWok are showing your hatred and intolerance, and have lost any credibility you may have had. Y'all have a nice day, hear?




posted on Aug, 13 2014 @ 05:13 PM
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a reply to: retiredTxn

Oh dontcha know? Having manners is a commie pinko plot to socialize America.

Obama has manners, obviously manners are a fascist/socialist plot to destroy America!



posted on Aug, 13 2014 @ 05:20 PM
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originally posted by: HauntWok
a reply to: macman

You got to be kidding me, you seriously expect me to be tolerant of racist, bigoted, xenophobes?

I'm supposed to have any empathy at all for religious zealots?

For years now, many many hard line right wingers have stifled economic recovery, tried to pursue war wherever they can.

And we are supposed to be tolerant if this?

Oh hell no!

Now you want to move to the middle? Election year approaching and you all are realizing that the years of your rhetoric is catching up with you? That the left is going to come out swinging against you hard.

Most people on the left are really accepting of different ideas and cultures. I for one used to agree with a lot of conservative ideas. Then the neo-cons of the 90s and the TEA Party of today came along, and went completely insane to the right.

So yea, please go, secede from the union. Get out and stay out.


Again: with each post you make, you are showing that you are EXACTLY what you are screaming about.

Hate much bro?

You have judged an entire group of people, based upon what a very few maybe like.

What does that make you again? Tolerant?

I think maybe you should go back to the dictionary and look that word up again, as it seems you missed that one in school.

You accuse everyone here in the south of being hateful.....and then you sit there and spew MORE hate than I have EVER seen on these boards.....

Except when it comes to people that really hate Americans and come on here or the west.

Even then, you're giving them a run for their money.

You have to be the MOST hypocritical person I've seen on here. You claim that the south is is people who hate, are racist and intolerant......

And then spew forth from your mouth exactly what you say you hate!

You are obviously very confused, misinformed and.....very, very, very intolerant.

I'm reminded of a man from back in history, in the first part of the 20th century, who convinced a whole country that they should hate a group of people. That the group of people he was talking about was the cause of all their problems and woes. That something needed to be done about those people! They needed to be gotten rid of!

That there needed to be a Final Solution to get rid of those people........

Amazing how much you and others sound exactly like him.......

Appalling really.......

edit on 13-8-2014 by eriktheawful because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 13 2014 @ 05:35 PM
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a reply to: eriktheawful

Oh godwins law strikes again!

Gee, having ya'll set up your own country like a lot of you want is genocide now?

Sorry, read some history and look at FOX News, the right is using that playbook already with "illegal aliens", I'm just waiting for krystallnact to commence.

Don't think I'm going to be even remotely tolerant if the intolerant. It would be like tolerating WBC idiots. Not going to happen.



posted on Aug, 13 2014 @ 05:43 PM
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originally posted by: HauntWok
a reply to: retiredTxn

Oh dontcha know? Having manners is a commie pinko plot to socialize America.

Obama has manners, obviously manners are a fascist/socialist plot to destroy America!


Dude, do you even read what you write? You appear to have some severe and very dangerous anger issues. Manners are the result of a good upbringing, along with morals, respect for others, tolerance, and integrity. Just because you want parts of the country to SECEDE, does not mean it will happen. You are insignificant in the bigger picture, as are your hateful views. Do you really think others feel as you do? Maybe a few, but the vast majority of American's just want to see our problems solved.

Please seek help immediately. If anyone is a candidate for spontaneous human combustion, it is you.



posted on Aug, 13 2014 @ 05:50 PM
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originally posted by: ShortStuff
I wish we would secede. But why limit it to just the Southern states? Why not all the so-called Red states? I'd like to see the Blue, a.k.a. liberal, states make it without the Red states paying taxes to cover their welfare, food stamps, and obamaphones.


You may want to check your facts. It's the red states that get the most in federal aid.



posted on Aug, 13 2014 @ 05:51 PM
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a reply to: retiredTxn

The political right in this country has been working for the last six years making sure that no problem in this country gets solved.

What are you talking about wanting to solve our problems?

What reality have you been living in? Sure isn't the reality of US politics.



posted on Aug, 13 2014 @ 06:15 PM
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a reply to: HauntWok



It's not easy to make up for the decades-long Progressive failures.

Especially when they keep piling new failures on top of each other to hide the first ones.




posted on Aug, 13 2014 @ 06:17 PM
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originally posted by: HauntWok
a reply to: retiredTxn

The political right in this country has been working for the last six years making sure that no problem in this country gets solved.


Oh, so you mean the political right is solely responsible for the 350+ bills sitting on Harry Reid's desk? He and your savior making it clear nothing coming out of the House will ever see the light of day. Yep, them righties sure know how to manipulate ol' Harry. And Boehner is no better. I have absolutely no respect for any of this bunch. But I must be living in a different reality because I want to see solutions brought forth and acted upon.

OK, I give. I must be a racist, neo-con, Tea Party, secessionist, Confederate flag waving, intolerant southerner. You broke me down. Thanks for showing me up for what I really am. NOT! You and your ilk are still the problem in this country. Expecting the other side to come to the table and negotiate, only to give in to your demands, and walk away with nothing is not negotiation and compromise.



posted on Aug, 13 2014 @ 06:26 PM
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a reply to: retiredTxn

No it's when you call Obama "your savior" that I see that you aren't on America's side. For one, I don't really support Obama, all he's done is continue the policies of Bush.

So attempting to insult me by referring to Obama as my savior doesn't help your argument.

Google how many threads on ATS there have been about secession. Trust me, it's popular.



posted on Aug, 13 2014 @ 06:30 PM
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originally posted by: HauntWok
a reply to: eriktheawful

Oh godwins law strikes again!

Gee, having ya'll set up your own country like a lot of you want is genocide now?

Sorry, read some history and look at FOX News, the right is using that playbook already with "illegal aliens", I'm just waiting for krystallnact to commence.

Don't think I'm going to be even remotely tolerant if the intolerant. It would be like tolerating WBC idiots. Not going to happen.


I feel very sorry for you, and you have my pity.

Having such a small minded view of the world, having yourself filled with such hate and spewing it out to others......

Life is too short for such things.

If I were a religious person, I guess I would say something like "I'll pray for you.". But I'm not.

So instead, I'll let you get back to your hate, and simply feel very sorry for you and those like you.

But that will pass in about 5 minutes as I move on to something else, and forget about you.

Again, life is too short to be bothered with haters.



posted on Aug, 13 2014 @ 06:50 PM
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a reply to: eriktheawful

Why'd you have to honest like that?

You should have just told him that you'd pray for him anyhow. It's clear he's close to a disastrous meltdown of epic proportions. The mushroom cloud alone would have been worthwhile.

... Ah well, since you can't do it. I will.

Haunt Wok, sir, since you seem to be so upset and angry at life, I will pray for you.




posted on Aug, 13 2014 @ 06:55 PM
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originally posted by: HauntWok
a reply to: retiredTxn

No it's when you call Obama "your savior" that I see that you aren't on America's side. For one, I don't really support Obama, all he's done is continue the policies of Bush.

So attempting to insult me by referring to Obama as my savior doesn't help your argument.


Oh, so voicing my opinion makes me un-American, but you are free to espouse your opinion of hate and intolerance for Texan's and southerners, which you have no true knowledge of, well that's now OK and American? I am glad I don't live in your twisted narrow world.

As for threads on secession, I could care less. Doesn't affect me, my family, or my friends. They are the same as threads about the 2nd Amendment, or Obamacare. They don't reflect the feelings or beliefs of the whole of America. Just a bunch of folks here on ATS. Learn to converse with others, not just rant how you are right and they are wrong. Best of luck with that.



posted on Aug, 13 2014 @ 07:03 PM
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a reply to: eriktheawful

Pity all you like, I don't care, I just want to support moving this country in the correct direction.

It's irrevocably split at this point. And like any marriage, sometimes a dissolution is what's best when there are irreconcilable differences.

Y'all can then attack Iran, north Korea, wherever you like, and we won't need to worry about never ending war for no reason.

It's a win win for everyone.

You won't have the EPA, public schools, literacy, science, the ATF, FEMA, or any of those other wastes of tax dollars.



posted on Aug, 13 2014 @ 07:47 PM
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i know what the new national anthem for the CSA can be.

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posted on Aug, 14 2014 @ 09:22 AM
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originally posted by: HauntWok

I am aware of the difference between neo-cons and the TEA Party, that's why I differentiated between the two.

So that is why you lump them together, because you know the difference???
Ummm, okay then.


originally posted by: HauntWok
Just look at the voting blocks y'all have alienated, blacks, Hispanics, the LGBT community, women, Muslims... basically anyone who isn't an old rich white male.

Yeah, because it totally alienates people when you want to adhere to the Constitution and such.
Unlike Progressives that change their mind to suit what feels good on that day.


originally posted by: HauntWok
And besides, y'all want your own Intolerland, where you will be free to have a completely ineffectual government constantly completely broke unable to even raise enough taxes for a hopeless army. Not to mention generating enough funds for infrastructure or public works.

Yeah, because you know..........we totally want to force others into acceptance.........oh wait, that would be you.


originally posted by: HauntWok
You'll privatize absolutely everything and watch as you're completely unable to provide even basic civil protections to your citizens from the corporate overlords who will infest every aspect of your lives and bill you for the privilege.

Good luck.

Hey, I get that you get a boner at the thought of bigger and more controlling Govt. It just hasn't worked thus far. But, I guess we just need to throw more money at it..............and give every excuse under the sun for Progressives..



posted on Aug, 14 2014 @ 09:24 AM
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originally posted by: HauntWok

Don't think I'm going to be even remotely tolerant if the intolerant.


And there you have it.

The best Progressive quote ever.



posted on Aug, 14 2014 @ 09:48 AM
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In Australia the right wing political party is called the Liberal Party and the left wing or supposed left wing party are called the Labor party. They are both pretty similar and I don't really get the polarization of Democrat and Republican in America, like it makes any difference who's in the White House?

A lot of namecalling and not much else. The extreme of both right and left seem to pretty much hate everyone and it's not much use throwing around pointless insults.

If you actually be reasonable and listen rather than just spewing one line slogans and assumptions about what the other side thinks, which are often completely wrong, a more intelligent insightful discussion can take place. Although the extremists on both sides can be difficult. I find most of the more moderate people pretty reasonable.



posted on Aug, 14 2014 @ 03:43 PM
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a reply to: macman

Was that supposed to be an argument? All it consisted of was simpleton statements.

I'm just trying to show what to expect in the CSA, and I guarantee that it won't be all leave it to beaver time.

For one, conservatives love them some war. But I doubt they would want to pay for it.

The CSA is going to need to raise taxes, I know, it's a harsh truth to hear, but if you want to bomb you some brown folks, your gonna have to buy arms, train and equip an army, pay those troops, pay for their medical care for the rest of their lives. Which is going to cost a lot. And I don't think the corporate interests that will undoubtedly run every aspect of your lives will want to foot the bill for endless war.

Then there's that dang interstate commerce, that's going to need roads. More taxes.

So again, good luck. Have fun. And don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya. Lol



posted on Aug, 14 2014 @ 05:26 PM
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a reply to: HauntWok

When have I stated I was for bombing brown folks????? Oh yeah, that time you made crap up, out of thin air was when that happened.

Oh, and wasn't that the same time I was for more war??? Yep, sure was.


*poof* your base of argument is gone.


How many theaters of war are we in today?? Just wondering.




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