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Vow Of Silence

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posted on Aug, 13 2014 @ 02:04 AM
a reply to: ElOmen
Your image states "Select Master" which is from the Cryptic degrees, but our obligations in that degree are not "vows of silence". Just integrity or keeping our word.

a reply to: ElOmen
Interesting note on Harpocrates and Horus:

The rose can also emblematically represent secrecy, and we see the phrase "sub rosa" which is Latin for "under the rose" used to denote secrecy or confidentiality. When assembled, if it was to be understood that anything said in the meeting was to never be repeated elsewhere, the Romans would hang roses from, or paint them on, the ceiling above the table - "sub rosa". The use of the rose as a symbol for secrecy goes back to ancient Greek and Egyptian mythology, where the rose was also a symbol for the god Horus (son of Isis). Although Horus was the sky god, represented by a man with a falcon for a head, he was sometimes represented as a child. In Egyptian artwork, the child was often represented by a naked child with his finger on his mouth as if sucking on it, to denote youth, but the Greeks misunderstood this gesture to mean "secrecy". The Greek's translated the name of Horus to which they now have the Harpocrates, the god of silence. It was adapted in Greek lore that Aphrodite gave her son, Eros (or Cupid), a rose. He in turn gave this rose to Harpocrates, god of silence, as a bribe to make sure that the indiscretions of the gods and goddesses were kept "under wraps", concealed. Harpocrates was often represented as a chubby infant with a finger to his mouth.

a reply to: ElOmen
The two quotes dealing with your "shhh symbol" from your image:

For the Secret Master, the candidate places two fingers to his lip and is told that his obligation "enjoins secrecy."


In the Royal Master's degree, in the Due-guard, placing the forefinger in the lip tells one's companion to keep silent

Neither of these are correct. I've conferred both degrees several times and I use the ritual passed down by the General Grand Council of Cryptic Masons International.
edit on 13-8-2014 by KSigMason because: (no reason given)

posted on Aug, 13 2014 @ 06:28 AM
a reply to: KSigMason
And there you have it.

No one can ever say Ksig is full of shhh*t.

posted on Aug, 13 2014 @ 08:58 AM

originally posted by: ElOmen
what i really want to know is if they make you do the hand gesture to the lips.(shhhh)

This is actually only done in one of the lectures in the Holy Royal Arch, where it states " ...should you ever be about to mention ...[ ]... lightly or irreverently, pause, place your finger on your lips (candidate does so) and remember your obligation.

However, this has nothing to do with Secrecy at all, but rather has to do with maintaining the reverence of a particular symbolical lesson.

P.S. The candidate only does the action, but doesn't say shhhh. It wouldn't make any sense to do so in the context it is used.

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posted on Aug, 20 2014 @ 10:49 AM
there are the three monkeys..

or better known as

hear no evil
see no evil
speak no evil

posted on Aug, 20 2014 @ 11:15 AM
a reply to: QuietF4arcould you elaborate a bit more....not exactly sure where your going with this?

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