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Again, misleading. During the takeover that base, not one soldier got killed.
And also, there was a vote in Crimea to join Russia. Again, not a single dead person.
Then, the Russian military men retreated, and then the Ukraine got their Nazi government and then they went into crusade against Russian civilians with a couple of Russian soldiers that came there on their own will to help protect innocent people against raging Ukrainian army.
how can you not see that putins in the right and the russians are free they have been in the uk for years free to move about europe and the world,dont be misled ,ive got drunk with russians here in the uk,there not opressed,your still thinking russia is in the cold war times...deny ignorance
originally posted by: TinfoilTP
originally posted by: Nikola014
a reply to: TinfoilTP
Read my post again. I said nothing good ever comes out from western DEMOCRACY. Were i wrong? I mean just look at the countries that received "help" from US and NATO. Look at Serbia, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Lybia, shall I continue or do you get my point now?
I look over at Germany, Berlin Wall gone.
How about Poland, out of the Iron Curtain and into the Free World.
All of them formerly repressed Iron Curtain satellites seem to choose Freedom over Russia's Iron boot. Ukraine would be gone to the EU if it wasn't for Putin's meddling. It most likely will end up as a Western Democracy by the will of it's people given enough time. The days of Soviet domination are over, people want open societies.
All them countries you listed are plagued by this little thing called radical Islam bent on enforcing Shiria Law with a rusty sword.
originally posted by: Nikola014
a reply to: TinfoilTP
Luckily there's this thing called the Internet where you can find anything you want. Unless that evil Putin isn't controlling the Internet also!?!?!?!
so our freedoms are being taken away to, uk internet providers all block sites now,,they also slow torrents down,uk media is controlled to ,the illusion of democracy here and in the u.s.a.
originally posted by: ParasuvO
originally posted by: TinfoilTP
originally posted by: Nikola014
a reply to: TinfoilTP
Read my post again. I said nothing good ever comes out from western DEMOCRACY. Were i wrong? I mean just look at the countries that received "help" from US and NATO. Look at Serbia, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Lybia, shall I continue or do you get my point now?
I look over at Germany, Berlin Wall gone.
How about Poland, out of the Iron Curtain and into the Free World.
All of them formerly repressed Iron Curtain satellites seem to choose Freedom over Russia's Iron boot. Ukraine would be gone to the EU if it wasn't for Putin's meddling. It most likely will end up as a Western Democracy by the will of it's people given enough time. The days of Soviet domination are over, people want open societies.
All them countries you listed are plagued by this little thing called radical Islam bent on enforcing Shiria Law with a rusty sword.
Poland is now in the hands of sheer lunacy, and the economy is as bad as since WW2, in fact much of the country that can see BEYOND the total Mainstream media policies of fear about "BIG BAD RUSSIA", are actually realizing that they more they listen to America, and adopt its style, the worse off they become!
Those people were happier, had more, of EVERYTHING IN GENERAL, but the Grass is Always Greener Right.
Since communism collapsed in 1989, however, Poland has experienced a remarkable reversal of fortune. After leading the protest movement that toppled the old regime, the trade union Solidarity won democratic elections and initiated aggressive, market-oriented economic reforms. The communist Polish United Workers’ Party turned into the capitalist Democratic Left Alliance, which won elections in 1993 and 1995 and led the country into NATO in 1999. And in 2004, Poland joined the European Union as a full member, cementing its close alliance with Germany, its erstwhile antagonist.
The Polish economy, meanwhile, has grown rapidly for two decades -- at more than four percent per year, the fastest speed in Europe -- and garnered massive investment in its companies and infrastructure. Poland’s is now the sixth-largest economy in the EU. Living standards more than doubled between 1989 and 2012
Different kinds of oppression are the world over, of course you can pick your kind, like the one you have running around in your head, the one that tells you , that you are free.
Free to decide which level of garbage most suits you,
On one hand you talk about the people not being able to speak out in Russia and have freedom for their own self determination. The next you are condemning Russia for annexing Crimea when it was the Crimean people who demanded just that.
I hope you are getting paid to come up with this BS. If you are not then you have some serious comprehension issues.
originally posted by: sligtlyskeptical
a reply to: tsurfer2000h
On one hand you talk about the people not being able to speak out in Russia and have freedom for their own self determination. The next you are condemning Russia for annexing Crimea when it was the Crimean people who demanded just that.
I hope you are getting paid to come up with this BS. If you are not then you have some serious comprehension issues.