Putin Defies Western Warning, Will Send "Aid Convoy" To East Ukraine

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posted on Aug, 11 2014 @ 02:26 PM
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This has been the question on many peoples mind in regard to whether Russia will send humanitarian aid to east Ukraine or not. Looks like President Putin has decided to go ahead and send it in. Regardless of what the west was demanding. This could get messy in a hurry.

Putin Defies Western Warning, Will Send "Aid Convoy" To East Ukraine


Following days of loud warnings by the West that Putin should not take any moves to send "humanitarian" aid into East Ukraine, due to western fears that this would be merely a pretext for invasion, Putin said on Monday that Russia will go ahead and send an aid convoy to eastern Ukraine anyway.

According to Reuters, European Commission President Barroso "delivered a blunt message in a telephone call with Putin on Monday. "President Barroso warned against any unilateral military actions in Ukraine, under any pretext, including humanitarian," the Commission said in a statement."

The Kremlin, in its own account of the conversation, made clear that Moscow would indeed send help to largely Russian-speaking eastern Ukraine.

"It was noted that the Russian side, in collaboration with representatives of the International Committee of the Red Cross, is sending an aid convoy to Ukraine," the Kremlin statement said, without saying when the convoy was going.

And now that Putin's mind is made up, Ukraine has no choice but to accept, albeit with its so-called conditions:

Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said he supported an aid mission but made clear it had to be an international effort under the aegis of the Red Cross, involving the European Union as well as Russia. Poroshenko said U.S. President Barack Obama had also backed the international plan when they spoke on the telephone on Monday.

The International Committee of the Red Cross made no immediate comment, although last weekend it issued a statement acknowledging receipt of an offer from Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov about organizing aid convoys

Looks like things are getting more slippery. My hope is this gets carried off without conflict. Somehow though I don't feel like holding my breath.

Russian convoy with humanitarian aid will depart to Eastern Ukraine shortly without any military escort - Kremlin spokesman
— RIA Novosti (@ria_novosti) August 11, 2014


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posted on Aug, 11 2014 @ 02:47 PM
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According to the BBC today, Donetsk is surrounded by Ukrainian troops, little electricity or food, bombed and scared. East Ukrainians have rights also and Russia has the right to supply aid and IMO to intervene with military intervention as it has got that far.

The people of Eastern Ukraine should be allowed a vote on independence and whether they wish being a separate state to Ukraine, either self governing or part of Russia.

The 'government' of Kiev isn't exactly legitimate so it is beyond comprehension that the EU has been so one sided, apart from when the obvious is considered, that it is all about control of commodities such as gas and oil fields.

If the same thing was happening to English people in another land, I am certain the UK government would step in.



At least 1,500 people have died since Ukraine's new government sent in troops to put down an insurrection by pro-Russia separatists in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions in mid-April.

The fighting has displaced hundreds of thousands of people, many of whom have fled to Russia.

Ukrainian forces have now encircled Donetsk, a city of one million people before the unrest began, and residents are struggling without power or reliable sources of food.
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posted on Aug, 11 2014 @ 02:55 PM
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Russia has the right to supply aid and IMO to intervene with military intervention as it has got that far.


I pretty much agree with your post. Main concern I see is that if this aid convey is unaccompanied by any military protection then as soon as the run into Kiev's far right nationalist militias in the hot zone things will go sideways.

At that point the war may really start. I'm hoping for the best but those folks in east Ukraine are getting hammered pretty ruthlessly. Can't see the militias calling a cease fire if they see a Russian convoy coming.

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posted on Aug, 11 2014 @ 02:55 PM
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a reply to: theabsolutetruth




The 'government' of Kiev isn't exactly legitimate


Since when?

You do understand even Putin considers them the be legit.


Vladimir Putin has given the strongest indication yet that Russia is defusing its policy towards Ukraine, saying that Moscow will "respect the choice of the Ukrainian people" and work with the country's government after a new president is elected on Sunday.


www.theguardian.com...

Can't see why people still consider them to not be a legitimate government.



posted on Aug, 11 2014 @ 02:59 PM
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originally posted by: theabsolutetruth
According to the BBC today, Donetsk is surrounded by Ukrainian troops, little electricity or food, bombed and scared. East Ukrainians have rights also and Russia has the right to supply aid and IMO to intervene with military intervention as it has got that far.


Correct



posted on Aug, 11 2014 @ 03:03 PM
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let's see if they will be so stupid to do anything to endanger that what Putin has sent.

Pawn has been moved...



posted on Aug, 11 2014 @ 03:08 PM
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to intervene with military intervention as it has got that far.


Exactly what right does he have to send military troops into another country, especially a sovereign one at that?



If the same thing was happening to English people in Ireland for example, I am certain the UK government would step in.


I take it you haven't heard of the IRA...


Traditional IRA activities have included bombings, assassinations, kidnappings, punishment beatings, extortion, smuggling, and robberies. Before the cease-fire in 1997, the group had conducted bombing campaigns on various targets in Northern Ireland and Great Britain, including senior British Government officials, civilians, police, and British military targets.


fas.org...



posted on Aug, 11 2014 @ 03:11 PM
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let's see if they will be so stupid to do anything to endanger that what Putin has sent.


Let's see if Putin is stupid enough to send military troops in with that which he sent.



posted on Aug, 11 2014 @ 03:14 PM
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Swell a truckload of Kornets would be a help no doubts....
Whos gonna monitor the ratio of food to machine gun ammo anybody......



posted on Aug, 11 2014 @ 03:20 PM
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Whos gonna monitor the ratio of food to machine gun ammo anybody......


So you're thinking this is going to sorta be a scenario like:
    Hey get that box of bandages off my crates of weapons!!

Could be but it seems a little too obvious for Putin.

I think he really is worried about the people there.



posted on Aug, 11 2014 @ 03:32 PM
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He comes out a hero no matter if he never send s a dime....or a doughnut.
The offer was possibly sufficient to buck the boys up somewhat.....
Perhaps defections, desertions, may slow down a bit....
I get the feeling those who were in it for loot and a cheap drunken orgy of playing rebels will be fleeing by now....
Those that are staying would appreciate a sandwitch and a couple of belts of ammo and vodka both im sure....
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posted on Aug, 11 2014 @ 04:17 PM
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AND Barry's in Martha's Vineyard...no doubt haven a WICKED good time!!!
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posted on Aug, 11 2014 @ 07:12 PM
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Supposedly this is the convoy by way of a leaked video.

a video was leaked of what allegedly this convoy looks like: some ~300 military vehicles, all repainted "Humanitarian White."

As we stated before, the vehicles are expected to be unarmed, which means that should something "bad" happen to them while on Ukraine territory, well, the word provocation certainly comes to mind.
Source





posted on Aug, 11 2014 @ 07:26 PM
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You know, I don't trust Putin one bit, but who the hell are we to make demands of another nation? If something was going on in Mexico and the US decided to send aid, we would laugh at Russia or anyone else for demanding we not do so.

It's becoming more obvious everyday that we do not have the respect of people around the globe and that we are now going to drown in our own arrogance.



posted on Aug, 11 2014 @ 07:38 PM
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If something was going on in Mexico and the US decided to send aid, we would laugh at Russia or anyone else for demanding we not do so.


You know that was exactly what scenario my thoughts went to as well, if there was a disaster in Mexico, etc as you've said. I came to the same conclusion as well.

Parallel thought processes, you're not telepathic are you?



posted on Aug, 11 2014 @ 08:20 PM
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originally posted by: Bassago



What in the world is on the back of that truck at the end of the video?



posted on Aug, 11 2014 @ 08:36 PM
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What in the world is on the back of that truck at the end of the video?


I have absolutely no idea. Looks like some kind of Sci-Fi weapon laid on it's side. Or the nose cone of Neo's ship from the movie Star Trek Nemesis.

Maybe someone can answer your question as I'd like to know as well.

Edit - Here's a screenshot.


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posted on Aug, 11 2014 @ 10:10 PM
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Looks like some kind of communications set up collapsed on and on it's side, or a radar system, collapsed and on it's side.

The end looks like part of a parabolic or banana type dish.



posted on Aug, 11 2014 @ 10:20 PM
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a reply to: eriktheawful

I was thinking radar as well, but why would Putin be sending a radar system on a humanitarian mission?



posted on Aug, 11 2014 @ 10:27 PM
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a reply to: Bone75

Maybe it's not one of the trucks being sent. It wasn't painted white like the rest of them. Looks like this was filmed inside a big motor pool.





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