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originally posted by: SUBKONCIOUS
I would bet my money on the very real possibility that the IS is a joint Mossad / CIA operation with the ultimate intention to grow enough in numbers to cause extreme turmoil in Iran....
And the fact that their getting a little bit of population reduction along the way is, for them, just killing two birds with one stone... I believe that is the reason for the extreme lack of action by our administration...
originally posted by: DeadSeraph
a reply to: MrSpad
You seem to think you are a military strategist or something. Are you really going to suggest Obama couldn't have severely limited ISIS rise to power with airstrikes, drone strikes, and cruise missiles? They were sitting ducks for large stretches of time, with convoys wide open and vulnerable as they traversed open terrain. The Iraqi government even pleaded with the U.S for airstrikes, with no answer from the Obama administration until it was too late.
“Immediately bombed these columns of ISIL running around in those dump trucks and call in thousands of US troops and to go back in after he got consent from the congress. Besides that call in much more than the measly 800 advisers he sent. Declared to the UN to attempt to create form expeditionary forces of at least 5000 from each individual country who participates…to get a force of at least 50,000 troops, this is the Colin Powell doctrine of a massive force to quickly get it over with. Then, like the first Bush did in the first Iraq war in Kuwait, he needed to create an international coalition of willing partners to go in and exterminate ISIL AS FAST AS POSSIBLE. AND I MEAN EXTERMINATE! Let the Iraqis fumigate the country afterwards.”
originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: MrSpad
It’s called strategic thinking. Looking ahead. They knew ISIL was an extremely mad group who would and already has committed genocidal acts
Obama has an example of what the first Bush did in the first Iraqi war in Kuwait.
Create a groundswell of international support. In fact Obama would have an easier task than Bush with the known track record of ISIL.
Why the excuse for not acting is absurd: that the US would end up in a sectarian war.
The idea that this war would end up a sectarian only war is not viable.
ISIL is committing genocide against EVERYBODY: Yezidis, Christians; Shia Muslims, even Sunnis who don’t kiss their ring. There so bad NOT EVEN AL Qaeda supports them
They are uniquely savage. NO SUNNIS WOULD SUPPORT THEM, that is a myth, imo. They are getting support through fear.
Just became they might have a few disgruntled ex-Saddam Generals doesn’t mean they have a Sunni army within Iraq.
Finally if that rational was true, then why go in at all.
To stop the genocide?…Any one could have already predicted this.
They have already murdered Christians in Iraq. What does the US government need 1 million dead?
Obama is in denial and has terrible advisers.
JERUSALEM – Members of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, or ISIS, were trained in 2012 by U.S. instructors working at a secret base in Jordan, according to informed Jordanian officials.
The officials said dozens of ISIS members were trained at the time as part of covert aid to the insurgents targeting the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in Syria. The officials said the training was not meant to be used for any future campaign in Iraq.